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1 hour ago, Photoworks said:

 

Really great photos, thanks! It seems the new is indeed about the same length as the old, even though the specs say 6mm longer. Even Jono said it was 6mm longer in his article. He must have never actually compared. Do you have a scale, and could you weigh the new vs. old 50mm lux?

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4 hours ago, mosh1 said:

 

Really great photos, thanks! It seems the new is indeed about the same length as the old, even though the specs say 6mm longer. Even Jono said it was 6mm longer in his article. He must have never actually compared. Do you have a scale, and could you weigh the new vs. old 50mm lux?

There is no point, the old one come in so many different version and materials, and they will be all different, I can think of 5-6 ASPH versions.

Many people want the BRASS version because it is more durable and smooth. But it is more heavy.

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9 hours ago, Photoworks said:

seemed like the new lux is 6mm taller only when hood extended, i dont use hood so oke for me, but the newer one seems fatter... just like its 35lux counterparts.. but got close focus as compensated... oke sounds great

however... i always prefer brass if there's an options... so yeah .. and somehow i always prefer the silve chrome color on brass than on aluminium

that's all just my thoughts... one to each own thank you for the great side by side photo mate!

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I never liked the look of the old Summilux. For this reason I did not have one btw I had the black chrome version but I found it too heavy. Now I am very happy with weight and design of the new version. I like it very much if lenses are a bit fatter at the mount and get taller in the front. So the 35 mm Summilux FLE (first and current version) are beauties in my eye and the Summilux 50 is a beauty too. And I love it‘s close focussing. 

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2 hours ago, elmars said:

I never liked the look of the old Summilux. For this reason I did not have one btw I had the black chrome version but I found it too heavy. Now I am very happy with weight and design of the new version. I like it very much if lenses are a bit fatter at the mount and get taller in the front. So the 35 mm Summilux FLE (first and current version) are beauties in my eye and the Summilux 50 is a beauty too. And I love it‘s close focussing. 

totally agree, feels a lot more stable and less nose heavy - reson why i much like the 21 lux in terms of balance

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4 hours ago, Lelmer said:

I am curious to see pictures of round luminous sources at f2.8 ot f4, if you have time...

It is a bummer it is not xMas anymore, I will keep it in mind.

I don't think there will be much difference, just like it didn't have it on the 35 Lux

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12 hours ago, Photoworks said:

Great shots! That bokeh in the last one is pretty darn dreamy.

I'm waiting for comparison shots between the 50 lux asph vs the new fle2 (but probably not the usual "extreme conditions" ones we always see where people shoot wide open at the sun with tree empty of leaves).

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On 4/14/2023 at 9:34 PM, elmars said:

I never liked the look of the old Summilux. For this reason I did not have one btw I had the black chrome version but I found it too heavy. Now I am very happy with weight and design of the new version. I like it very much if lenses are a bit fatter at the mount and get taller in the front. So the 35 mm Summilux FLE (first and current version) are beauties in my eye and the Summilux 50 is a beauty too. And I love it‘s close focussing. 

+1. 
I would prefer the new one. Not only for 0.45m but also the cleaner body look.  Love 35lux II. It becomes my favorite M glass.
 look forward for another one at 50mm. 
 

The problem for me is how to get one from first batch. These are out of stock everywhere. 

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In the side-by-side photos, the focus ring on the new one clearly has a ton of real estate to include ribbing all around above the numbers. It even looks slightly “wrong” not having them. As if they forgot to put it through that step in the production line.

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13 minutes ago, haikos said:

In the side-by-side photos, the focus ring on the new one clearly has a ton of real estate to include ribbing all around above the numbers. It even looks slightly “wrong” not having them. As if they forgot to put it through that step in the production line.

Probably to achieve a cleaner design. But at the expense of usability for those who like to hold the focus ring directly.

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41 minutes ago, evikne said:

Probably to achieve a cleaner design. But at the expense of usability for those who like to hold the focus ring directly.

This is my concern too.  It seems like an industrial designer made the decision because they care more about looking at the lens vs using it. It reminds me of Apple computer before Jony Ivy left the company. 

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1 hour ago, evikne said:

Probably to achieve a cleaner design. But at the expense of usability for those who like to hold the focus ring directly.

With the old version I always feel slight "irregularities" in resistance when focussing with the tab. More or less on all 50LUX ASPH I tried. So the ribbed focus ring gives my finger something to hold onto while still having one finger on the tab. When not using the tab the focussing is 100% smooth and regular. 
So while I like the tab, I can imagine how it sucks for those who dislike the tab not having the ribbing... Can only hope this means the helicoid operation and FLE are 100% perfection on this new one... 

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28 minutes ago, Crem said:

This is my concern too.  It seems like an industrial designer made the decision because they care more about looking at the lens vs using it. It reminds me of Apple computer before Jony Ivy left the company. 

Time and time again Leica surprises me with its well-thought-out design, most of the time there is a reason behind the choices. My assumption is that the 2nd coil for focusing closer required more space, adding the groves to the focusing ring would make the lens even bigger.

btw you can operate the new lens just like the "old" lens by holding it on the ring. Unless you are planning to use close focus, I don't see the point to upgrade.

the distance from 0.7 to 0.45 makes a difference to me, especially when using other cameras.

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7 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

Unless you are planning to use close focus, I don't see the point to upgrade.

Seems that is the consensus mostly... Plus the the improvements would get lost when using film. 
My bank account is VERY relieved that I almost only use film and have no use for the 0.45 😅

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2 hours ago, evikne said:

Probably to achieve a cleaner design. But at the expense of usability for those who like to hold the focus ring directly.

Also to avoid the ergonomic issue of mistaking a ribbed focus ring for the ribbed aperture ring given the new design would mean they'd be right next to each other.

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