Magnification Point Keeps Moving

[LikameLeica]

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I have assigned the top button Focus Magnification for Live View on either the rear screen or attached EVF.  The point keeps moving to top or bottom corners and then zooming in is super frustrating as I have to hunt for the crosshair and then move it back to center.  Anyone experience the same?  Anyone have a solution/fix?

 

 

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[verbivore]

Same here. Only solution I’ve found so far is to zoom back out, double-tap the center of the LCD, and zoom back in. But there’s got to be a batter way  

[LikameLeica]

It has to do with the rear LCD having touch enabled, but unless I am missing something there is no way to turn it off without completely disabling Live View.  Disabling Live View defeats the purpose and without the ability to turn off the Touch capability of Live View the crosshair gets moved around when the camera is hanging around my neck.  My only solution (not ideal) that I have come up with is as follows.

1. Set top function button to Live View.
2. Turn on Focus Aid in Capture Assistants menu, to have camera automatically zoom in while focusing.

This allows me to turn off & on Live View with single bottom between shots and then the LCD screen is inactive while walking and in between shots, minimizing the ability for the crosshair to get moved around by mistake.

Not ideal but my temporary fix.  I would much rather have the ability to turn off the touch on rear LCD.

 

Edited June 13, 2022 by LikameLeica

[M11 for me]

The focus point can be moved around the screen. So before magnification is done first put the point to the right place and use the 4-way button for that.

[LikameLeica]

45 minutes ago, M11 for me said:

The focus point can be moved around the screen. So before magnification is done first put the point to the right place and use the 4-way button for that.

Thank you for responding.  I already know that this can be done.  My issue is that the point gets moved around inadvertently due to the touch screen getting bumped while camera is hanging from my neck, which means that I am constantly having to recenter it (super frustrating) and in my opinion a very poor design that can be easily fixed in firmware.  The Leica SL2 latest firmware for example now allows you to assign one of your function buttons to either center or the last place you had it manually positioned to.  This is called "toggle focus point" and was not implemented until the latest firmware version.  Or preferably you should be able to disable this point from moving with touch screen.

[M11 for me]

You might do 2 things that come into my mind spontanously:

1) After shooting go into the first overview menu and turn off LV as long as you do not need it.

2) Put the function LV on/off onto the FN buton on the back of the camera to turn it on/off

Or else get a Visoflex2 and set the settings of the LCD to extended

But you're right. When you have the screen on all the time then its an annoying issue

[hdmesa]

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The M11 needs a double-tap-to-center function just like the Q2 has, and it also needs to work while looking though the Visoflex 2. We also need the ability to do touch-drag of the focus point while using the EVF like the Q2.

[simonwesterlund]

my thumb quite often barely touches the lcd screen and moves the magnification point to the top right, it's very annoying.

[sarkleshark]

I asked a while ago to the local Leica rep that it would be nice if one could fix the position of the focus point but still allow touch screen for everything else on all camera platforms.  This would be nice for back button focus on the q and sl and keep the mag  location on the M.  

One can only hope.

[SrMi]

Note to all: if you want something changed, send an email to Leica.

Edited June 14, 2022 by SrMi

[LikameLeica]

3 hours ago, SrMi said:

Note to all: if you want something changed, send an email to Leica.

Any specific email address?

[Photoworks]

info@leica-camera.com

 

 

[SrMi]

Also, technicalinfo@leicacamerausa.com.

 

[lct]

Seems like the wandering focus point has been fixed in firmware 1.6.0.0. Did not use it long enough to be sure though.

Edited December 13, 2022 by lct

[lct]

On 12/13/2022 at 9:23 PM, lct said:

Seems like the wandering focus point has been fixed in firmware 1.6.0.0.

Been fixed indeed in 2022 but the wandering focus point comes again in 2024 with firmware 2.1.1 for me. Same for you?

[lct]

9 hours ago, lct said:

Been fixed indeed in 2022 but the wandering focus point comes again in 2024 with firmware 2.1.1 for me. Same for you?

Please disregard this post. I forgot the Center Frame option.

[LikameLeica]

24 minutes ago, lct said:

Please disregard this post. I forgot the Center Frame option.

I actually prefer to use the setting under the "Customize Control" menu submenu "Touch Mode" and set this to "Off (LV Mode)"  This turns of the touch screen in Live Mode, but allows you to move the magnification focus point with the Directional Pad.  I general keep the focus point in the middle of frame, when I focus the camera then zooms in on the focus point, which stays in the center of frame unless I manually move with the directional pad.  This has solved my issue with the focus point inadvertently getting moved around through accidentally touching the LCD screen while carrying camera.  As a side note, if you are viewing your images in playback on the LCD screen, you can still use the touch screen for zooming in, scrolling, etc.

[lct]

Interesting thank you but how do you manage to move back the focus point to the center of the frame otherwise than by switching LV off and on? Just curious.

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[jdlaing]

2 minutes ago, lct said:

Interesting thank you but how do you manage to move back the focus point to the center of the frame otherwise than by switching LV off and on? Just curious.

Just push the programmed button.

[LikameLeica]

1 hour ago, lct said:

Please disregard this post. I forgot the Center Frame option.

 

1 minute ago, lct said:

Interesting thank you but how do you manage to move back the focus point to the center of the frame otherwise than by switching LV off and on? Just curious.

I generally keep the focus point in the center of the frame and by locking the touch screen while in LV, it seldom leaves the center of the frame.  When focusing, using EVF or LV, I center frame on the point I want to focus on, I focus, and then I recompose the picture.  I should note that I also have the "Focus Aid" as "Automatic".  This is found under the "Capture Assistants" menu.  This means that the when I begin focusing the screen automatically zooms in and I can control the amount of zoom with the Thumbwheel.  The camera remembers the last zoom % as well.  For example, if the last time I focused I had the magnification at max amount it will go straight to the maximum zoom, I can then zoom out using the Thumbwheel.  Hope that makes sense.  Everyone has different preferences, but for me this works well.  That is the beauty of the ability to customize the function buttons on the M11 and SL series cameras for me.