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1 hour ago, petermullett said:

...I've the Leica Summaron 28 and I do like it ergonomically and for the results it turns out with film particularly, but I also ordered the TT Artisans 28 too, and why the hell not at that price?...

I will look forward to reading your comments once you have had the chance to carry out some useful comparison images. I don't really care too much about whether or not it performs the same, better or worse than the Leica original; in terms of rendering I like a very broad spectrum of different lens 'signatures' from the clinical to the, erm, 'characterful' so regardless of how it draws I'm sure it will find its proper place.

Yes; good news about the hood being included in the price! As far as finish goes; from a purely personal perspective the silver-chrome will suit me fine as I will be using it primarily with a silver-chrome Monochrom but I can understand that black-chrome would have been an extremely popular option. Perhaps they will bring one out if the demand proves to be there?

It will be very interesting to see when we and our fellow forumites start to receive their lenses!

Philip.

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12 hours ago, Gobert said:

Conclusion is: superglue it at F11 and you have a nice point and shoot lens.

Or simply focus with the rangefinder at any aperture like any other M mount lens?

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The lens hood paint chip-off very easily.  

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On 12/22/2021 at 7:16 PM, a.noctilux said:

吉拉德

Welcome here.

Do you have some pictures from the lens to share us ?

 

Hi, 

Here are some samples. I did not have time to really use the lens since I got it as I have been busy with work.

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1 hour ago, cboy said:

 

I do hope they release a black anodised version. It'd be perfect for stealth street photography

 

I like this guy ,he does a nice review of the 7 artisans 75mm lens i own and this review is well worth a look also.

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I enjoyed the Mr Leica review and description of this new lens. I’ve been considering the Summaron 28/5.6 for a while but never was brave enough to purchase in either LTM or M-mount. 

I’d be keen to understand if there would be any visible difference between the TT artisans and Summaron 28mm on film? I sometimes believe that on film some aspects just can’t be seen compared to high-res digital sensors. I note that this lens looks more inclined to flare compared to the Summaron.

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With this lens, shooting at F8 with a preset focusing distance of 2.5 metres, the area that should be focus on a FF rangefinder should range between approx 1.5 to 9 metres away from the lens.  So I would like to see how the image is rendered under these settings towards the further distance of that range. Would the resulting image be that different to a Summaron current/LTM version or any other 28mm LTM/ M mount lens for that matter? That’s the crucial thing for me so it will be interesting to see.

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It's been ages since I last posted in the Forum.
My TTArtisan 28mm f.6 arrived this morning and the weather here is so dark, cold and unpleasant I opted to try it around the house on my M9  I will give it a go outdoors on my 240 later.  It's dark in my basement, hence 1600ISO  The corners improve some stopping down from f5.6 to f8.0 but remain mushy.  I didn't notice much change in centre sharpnessbetween the two.  Using the hood would have reduced flare from the overhead lights.  I selected an Elmarit 21mm lens code but intend  on experimenting with others.

Post was done in ACR 9.1.1I have no complaits about distortion.  I feel I have gotten more than my money's worth.

Here's a link to Wetransfer where you can
download my DNG file to play with:

https://we.tl/t-bvBJryqRDu

Wishing everyone a happy and productive 2022

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1 hour ago, erniethemilk said:

So, has anyone else picked up this lens.
Wondered what peoples feelings were who have used it. 

It appears it’s still on pre-order, so I guess not many around at present. 

So... You didn't see my post right abovc yours?

I've included a link for a .DNG download of my image file.

I got my lens on Monday Jan. 03/2022

Lovely build quality, decent (as expected) image quality

and HUGE bang for my bucks!

 

Regards

 

Sam

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8 hours ago, squarenegs said:

So... You didn't see my post right abovc yours?

I've included a link for a .DNG download of my image file.

I got my lens on Monday Jan. 03/2022

Lovely build quality, decent (as expected) image quality

and HUGE bang for my bucks!

 

Regards

 

Sam

Thanks Sam for the quick review, I did see your post, that’s why I asked if anyone else had picked up the lens as well. There seems to be quite a bit of interest around it. 

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Am 22.11.2021 um 15:37 schrieb Capuccino-Muffin:

The Summaron is very sharp all the way to the corners.

The Summaron is a HIGH-contrast lens.

The Summaron has falloff. But falloff does not mean “soft” nor “Low contrast”. It means that it vaccuums the attention to the center of the image. Adds a mood.

I do 100% agree with this!

I have both here for side by side comparison.

The TTARTISAN and the Summaron.

The Summaron is sharper and does shoe more microcontrast. With that saying the TTARTISAN shows good sharpness too. Also in the corners.

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The TTARTISAN is almost without any vignetting.

 

Built wise, the Leica is superior, still the TT is also quite well built.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYJernIBstW/?utm_medium=copy_link
 

 

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9 hours ago, Mefty said:

I do 100% agree with this!

I have both here for side by side comparison.

The TTARTISAN and the Summaron.

The Summaron is sharper and does shoe more microcontrast. With that saying the TTARTISAN shows good sharpness too. Also in the corners.

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The TTARTISAN is almost without any vignetting.

 

Built wise, the Leica is superior, still the TT is also quite well built.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CYJernIBstW/?utm_medium=copy_link
 

 

What specifically is superior regarding build quality with the leica lens? just curious.

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16 minutes ago, steve 1959 said:

What specifically is superior regarding build quality with the leica lens? just curious.

Tolerances between the helicoid and the focusing mechanism and the mount. Choice of materials with regard to heat and cold and how they function. Glass formulas for the lens blanks. Coatings. Quality of the machined parts. Grind and polishing of the lens elements.

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4 hours ago, jdlaing said:

Tolerances between the helicoid and the focusing mechanism and the mount. Choice of materials with regard to heat and cold and how they function. Glass formulas for the lens blanks. Coatings. Quality of the machined parts. Grind and polishing of the lens elements.

Rubbish and do you always speak for other posters?

All that stuff is pure assumption but what i am asking the other poster [not you] is what difference he noticed? i meant what difference without taking the lens apart or visiting the respective production lines.

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13 minutes ago, steve 1959 said:

Rubbish and do you always speak for other posters?

All that stuff is pure assumption but what i am asking the other poster [not you] is what difference he noticed? i meant what difference without taking the lens apart or visiting the respective production lines.

Rubbish

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vor 6 Stunden schrieb steve 1959:

What specifically is superior regarding build quality with the leica lens? just curious.

As I said, the TTArtisan is quite well built.

The Leica although has cleaner engravings (as I produced pack shots with a macro it got quite obvious….nothing to be concerned in daily use…so far), the aperture ring has cleaner clicks (don’t know how to explain it) and doesn‘t feel to loose, the infinity lock (whether you like it or not) is pretty useless with the TTArtisan. It doesn‘t take much to push it out of the lock.

Speaking of infinity: In infinity position, the rangefinder is completely of with the TTArtisan. Okay 5.6 at near infinity is no problem at all in the end (in the picture) but looking through the viewfinder it irritated me.

After on day of using the lenshood of the TTArtisan shows „lot of“ brass….no I didn‘t bumped it around.

All in all the Summaron is built with more accuracy.

But again, it is not a bad lens by any means.

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