charlesphoto99 Posted January 22, 2022 Share #281 Posted January 22, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes. Be careful of rubbing against zips and buttons. Otherwise I don't baby or use cases etc as not planning on reselling, ever. Not sure what more one truly needs in an M camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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FranciscoChung Posted March 3, 2022 Share #282 Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) If you guys have to make a choice between M10-R BP or M11 Black Chrome, which one would you choose? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 3, 2022 by FranciscoChung Photo added 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322105-i-ordered-the-m10-r-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4393853'>More sharing options...
Pixeleater Posted March 3, 2022 Share #283 Posted March 3, 2022 12 hours ago, FranciscoChung said: If you guys have to make a choice between M10-R BP or M11 Black Chrome, which one would you choose? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! This comparison is much more than just the paint, since the M10-R is made from brass whereas the M11 in black is made from aluminum. I'd go for the M10-R BP. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kreeshp Posted March 3, 2022 Share #284 Posted March 3, 2022 The M10-R vs M11 comparison is a topic I've been keenly following since the release of the M11. I love reading all the threads on this and the M11 forum comparing and contrasting the two models. The decision is made even more difficult by the fact that the M10-R black paint and the M11 are the same price. As an M10-P owner, I've been thinking about upgrading not for the resolution bump but for the improved dynamic range and higher ISO performance. I've been totally happy with 24 megapixels but do often wish I could produce cleaner images in lower light situations. I am leaning towards the M10-R because I already have the batteries and half case for the M10. What I am still wrapping my head around is whether to pay the premium of the black paint edition over the regular black chrome edition. It's a fairly large leap in price with zero performance increase over the non-black paint M10-Rs, and I doubt whether I'd keep the camera long enough for it to brass. Hearing all the M10-R BP owners that have chosen the M10-R over the M11 gives me some confidence that I'm leaning in the right direction in favoring the M10-R over the M11 though. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sjz Posted March 3, 2022 Share #285 Posted March 3, 2022 I pondered this as well. My M10M is a camera that makes you work, but handsomely rewards the effort. I visit the M10-R photo thread. I see something special happening in that thread, similar to the M9 Mono thread. I found an in-stock Silver M11 and snap purchased it. It is too early for me to judge if I will bond with it the way I bond with the M10M. One of the decision criteria for me makes no sense. I really enjoy the detail in the M10M images and know some of that is the lack of the Bayer filter and to get that level of detail in colour ….. that’s the M11. My name is Graham and I am a pixel peeper. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted March 3, 2022 Share #286 Posted March 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Pixeleater said: .....I'd go for the M10-R BP. I did buy an M10-R BP, deliberately, rather than an M11. It is my first digital Leica M. One of the the reasons I decided to buy an M10-R BP was because of the brass construction and black paint. I like the combination. I'm a photographer, not a gear-head and I've been a photographer for long enough to know what I want and what I don't want from a new camera. That does not just apply to technical features and capabilities, it also applies to how a camera feels in use. That's why throughout my working life I've used Nikon film and digital cameras because they hold no surprises. I know what to expect from them and the transition from film to digital 22 years ago in my professional life was seamless. My M10-R BP feels almost identical to my film MP; the size, heft, balance, controls, shutter release action (apart from the shutter sound. As quiet as the M10-R shutter is I much prefer the sound my MP's cloth shutter), the removable baseplate, frame selection lever, even the feel of the black lacquer finish is similar between the two cameras. There is more to being a photographer than having an insatiable appetite for more and more resolution and extreme iso capability. It is also about being at one with your camera, being released from technical foibles. It's about enjoying the process of creating images, film or digital, without hindrance. Swapping between my MP BP and M10-R BP is as seamless as it could be between film and digital cameras. I see the M11 as a significant indicator that Leica may step away from the original ethos with the future direction of the M camera, whilst the M10/M10-R ranges remained as true to it as a digital M probably could do. The M10/M10-R may even be amongst the last of their kind. Time will tell. When Leica's future direction with the M series becomes clear, I might consider buying another new digital M at some point but it will have to be a camera that retains the basis of the original M ethos, structurally and operationally with a commitment by Leica to the mechanical rangefinder. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaticB Posted March 4, 2022 Share #287 Posted March 4, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 22 hours ago, Ouroboros said: I did buy an M10-R BP, deliberately, rather than an M11. It is my first digital Leica M. One of the the reasons I decided to buy an M10-R BP was because of the brass construction and black paint. I like the combination. I'm a photographer, not a gear-head and I've been a photographer for long enough to know what I want and what I don't want from a new camera. That does not just apply to technical features and capabilities, it also applies to how a camera feels in use. That's why throughout my working life I've used Nikon film and digital cameras because they hold no surprises. I know what to expect from them and the transition from film to digital 22 years ago in my professional life was seamless. My M10-R BP feels almost identical to my film MP; the size, heft, balance, controls, shutter release action (apart from the shutter sound. As quiet as the M10-R shutter is I much prefer the sound my MP's cloth shutter), the removable baseplate, frame selection lever, even the feel of the black lacquer finish is similar between the two cameras. There is more to being a photographer than having an insatiable appetite for more and more resolution and extreme iso capability. It is also about being at one with your camera, being released from technical foibles. It's about enjoying the process of creating images, film or digital, without hindrance. Swapping between my MP BP and M10-R BP is as seamless as it could be between film and digital cameras. I see the M11 as a significant indicator that Leica may step away from the original ethos with the future direction of the M camera, whilst the M10/M10-R ranges remained as true to it as a digital M probably could do. The M10/M10-R may even be amongst the last of their kind. Time will tell. When Leica's future direction with the M series becomes clear, I might consider buying another new digital M at some point but it will have to be a camera that retains the basis of the original M ethos, structurally and operationally with a commitment by Leica to the mechanical rangefinder. Exactly the reasons I bought my M10 - R BP recently! And I keep my M 240! Well, I added Q2 to the collection, and no-suprise, I used it as well - frequently. They are beautifull each in its own way! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted March 4, 2022 Share #288 Posted March 4, 2022 On 3/3/2022 at 7:23 PM, Ouroboros said: I did buy an M10-R BP, deliberately, rather than an M11. It is my first digital Leica M. One of the the reasons I decided to buy an M10-R BP was because of the brass construction and black paint. I like the combination. I'm a photographer, not a gear-head and I've been a photographer for long enough to know what I want and what I don't want from a new camera. That does not just apply to technical features and capabilities, it also applies to how a camera feels in use. That's why throughout my working life I've used Nikon film and digital cameras because they hold no surprises. I know what to expect from them and the transition from film to digital 22 years ago in my professional life was seamless. My M10-R BP feels almost identical to my film MP; the size, heft, balance, controls, shutter release action (apart from the shutter sound. As quiet as the M10-R shutter is I much prefer the sound my MP's cloth shutter), the removable baseplate, frame selection lever, even the feel of the black lacquer finish is similar between the two cameras. There is more to being a photographer than having an insatiable appetite for more and more resolution and extreme iso capability. It is also about being at one with your camera, being released from technical foibles. It's about enjoying the process of creating images, film or digital, without hindrance. Swapping between my MP BP and M10-R BP is as seamless as it could be between film and digital cameras. I see the M11 as a significant indicator that Leica may step away from the original ethos with the future direction of the M camera, whilst the M10/M10-R ranges remained as true to it as a digital M probably could do. The M10/M10-R may even be amongst the last of their kind. Time will tell. When Leica's future direction with the M series becomes clear, I might consider buying another new digital M at some point but it will have to be a camera that retains the basis of the original M ethos, structurally and operationally with a commitment by Leica to the mechanical rangefinder. I bought M10R BP a few days after the M11 was released. It's a beautiful camera but that was only part of the reason. Read the M11 thread for bugs and firmware complaints and it's pretty clear - better to buy a camera at the end of the cycle when (most of) the bugs have been sorted. Plus I'm sure I wouldn't see any difference in with the same photo taken on the M11 and the M10. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikep996 Posted March 4, 2022 Share #289 Posted March 4, 2022 "Plus I'm sure I wouldn't see any difference in with the same photo taken on the M11 and the M10." Heck, I can't see any meaningful difference in an uncropped 16x24 print made with: a 6MP Nikon DSLR, an iPhone 11 Pro, an Olympus OMD M1, a Leica M10, or a Leica M10R. I've taken the exact same photo with each camera. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedro Posted March 11, 2022 Share #290 Posted March 11, 2022 i have the 10R BP and it is a lovely camera that I will keep as long as I can use it i also have the M11 which is a different camera and lovely in itself, I do like the things they introduced with it for comfort (larger batttery, better visoflex, no baseplate etc) Image quality is great on both 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GFONG Posted March 15, 2022 Share #291 Posted March 15, 2022 Finally bought the brand new M10R BP yesterday to replace my M10P. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
relms Posted March 18, 2022 Share #292 Posted March 18, 2022 Like many others I jumped on the M11 shortly after it was announced, opting for the silver version, but during the time I was waiting I decided I would prefer the black chrome version for the weight advantage, so the effect was to reset the clock and extend the wait time for delivery of an M11. That's when I discovered a slightly used M10-R BP for sale, and I bought it. What a beautiful camera, and it actually takes really good pictures! So, then you know what happened - the M11 arrived, and I was really in a dilemma. I was hesitant to even open the box, but I did, and I set the two cameras down on a table side-by-side, and there was no question, I was keeping the M10-R BP... maybe both, but if one has to go it will be the M11. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
calijax Posted March 18, 2022 Share #293 Posted March 18, 2022 10 hours ago, relms said: Like many others I jumped on the M11 shortly after it was announced, opting for the silver version, but during the time I was waiting I decided I would prefer the black chrome version for the weight advantage, so the effect was to reset the clock and extend the wait time for delivery of an M11. That's when I discovered a slightly used M10-R BP for sale, and I bought it. What a beautiful camera, and it actually takes really good pictures! So, then you know what happened - the M11 arrived, and I was really in a dilemma. I was hesitant to even open the box, but I did, and I set the two cameras down on a table side-by-side, and there was no question, I was keeping the M10-R BP... maybe both, but if one has to go it will be the M11. You should take a picture with them before you decide 😄 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loop Skywalker Posted March 21, 2022 Share #294 Posted March 21, 2022 I recently switched from the M10 to the M10-R Black Paint. What a beautiful camera, an absolute stunner! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 14 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322105-i-ordered-the-m10-r-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4404931'>More sharing options...
overexposed Posted April 1, 2022 Share #295 Posted April 1, 2022 So i just joined the M10-R Black Paint club. Found a brand new one here and Beijing and got ripped off badly, at least i think so. nonetheless, beautiful camera, still doubting whether i should actually use it or not haha. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fedro Posted April 1, 2022 Share #296 Posted April 1, 2022 use it, it wont brass otherwise Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted April 2, 2022 Share #297 Posted April 2, 2022 On 4/1/2022 at 2:06 PM, Fedro said: use it, it wont brass otherwise yes sir! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/322105-i-ordered-the-m10-r-black-paint/?do=findComment&comment=4411317'>More sharing options...
Ouroboros Posted April 2, 2022 Share #298 Posted April 2, 2022 (edited) On 3/25/2022 at 11:25 AM, Al Brown said: Just announced - the TTArtisan Light Meter for your M10-R Black Paint fully pre-brassed. Must be a thing... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Perfect for people who have bought a new black paint M and some emery paper and don't know there is already a light meter in their camera. Edited April 2, 2022 by Ouroboros 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoramer Posted April 22, 2022 Share #299 Posted April 22, 2022 Am 24.6.2021 um 16:36 schrieb JimmyCheng: Not sure if it is a wise decision especially when the m11 is just around the corner. But what more could I wish for. It’s almost a perfect Leica m for me. I’ve always wanted the m10r to be of similar design to the m10p, and black paint is a huge bonus. I’m just preying that the m11 won’t come with bp as a standard option or it will be drastically different in terms of design language, so that this camera can retain its value better. (Call me selfish :p) A good decision. I also got the M10-R BP. I would simply be overwhelmed in which sensor resolution I should now take pictures. And the habit or fetish of a black-lacquered Leica is indescribable. There is nothing better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoramer Posted April 22, 2022 Share #300 Posted April 22, 2022 Am 11.3.2022 um 23:36 schrieb Fedro: i have the 10R BP and it is a lovely camera that I will keep as long as I can use it i also have the M11 which is a different camera and lovely in itself, I do like the things they introduced with it for comfort (larger batttery, better visoflex, no baseplate etc) Image quality is great on both Yes, I can confirm that too. The image quality of both cameras is very high. Here's the proof: M10-R BP: https://www.flickr.com/photos/186763571@N04/51932893199/in/dateposted-public/ M11 in silver: https://www.flickr.com/photos/186763571@N04/51931592417/in/dateposted-public/ 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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