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[pgk]

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My wife's immediate reaction on seeing the house was 'Sussex or Kent', I would have certainly said it has a very southern feel to it.

[willeica]

5 minutes ago, pgk said:

My wife's immediate reaction on seeing the house was 'Sussex or Kent', I would have certainly said it has a very southern feel to it.

if the camera was still in Northern Ireland in 1935, then there would be no doubt about what 'side of the street' the house was on.

William

Edited May 6, 2021 by willeica

[jaques]

On 4/17/2021 at 1:32 AM, willeica said:

Very nice Thomas. I see that your one has the Zeiss Tessar. Mine has the Meyer Trioplan, a slightly faster, but more humble, lens which still produces lovely images. The Perfektas are truly a different kind of camera. Pressing the side button and watching it explode out like an alien monster still gives me a kick. 

William

Hi William- did you see how thomas' Perfecta is also missing it's name plate at the top? Just liek mine. Any chance when you have time you can send me a scan or photo of yours so I can get some made? perhaps Thomas will want one too?

[willeica]

3 hours ago, jaques said:

Hi William- did you see how thomas' Perfecta is also missing it's name plate at the top? Just liek mine. Any chance when you have time you can send me a scan or photo of yours so I can get some made? perhaps Thomas will want one too?

I will do that. I thought I had done so, but I must have forgotten.

William

[willeica]

6 hours ago, jaques said:

Hi William- did you see how thomas' Perfecta is also missing it's name plate at the top? Just liek mine. Any chance when you have time you can send me a scan or photo of yours so I can get some made? perhaps Thomas will want one too?

Here it is. You will have the dimensions and shape from your own camera.

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[romanus53]

In case you want some mirror-box for your Contax you can stay close with the Flektoskop or use some longer lenses from infinity to closeup with Kilfitt or Flektoskop

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[wlaidlaw]

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I used to think about getting a Flektoskop then reason set in and I worked out just how often I used my PLOOT, Viso I and Viso II.

Today is the first day I have been out taking photos with a Barnack this year. I just got my IIIa and 2 Speed MOOLY back from its very lengthy repair. I don't know how stiff the clutch is supposed to be on the MOOLY for loading the film and winding the first two frames on by hand. It is still very stiff but at least it is now possible, whereas before, you had to use the motor for the first two frames, which I never felt comfortable doing. The slow speeds are now perfect where they were all over the place before and 1 and 0.5 seconds were sticking completely. I was going to put a roll of Fomapan 200 in and use with my 1937 uncoated Summar (I would like to get it coated, so the whole combo is an exact copy of my father's stolen IIIa/MOOLY/coated Summar) but I really don't know where to get that done. The colours outside are so lovely today that I put in a roll of Ultramax 400 colour negative instead and mounted my very late 1961 LTM 35/2.8 coated Summaron and SBLOO, instead of the Summar. 

Wilson

Edited May 7, 2021 by wlaidlaw

[sandro]

1 hour ago, romanus53 said:

In case you want some mirror-box for your Contax you can stay close with the Flektoskop or use some longer lenses from infinity to closeup with Kilfitt or Flektoskop

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Both the Novoflex and Kilfitt reflex houses can be used with lenses of various focal lenght. Zeiss Ikon had two different reflex houses at the same time, the Fletoskop and the Panflex. They both appear in a catalogue 'Contaxphotographie' of 1939. I don't know what the difference is between these two and it seems unnecessary to have two reflex houses for rangefinder camera's.

Lex

[Pyrogallol]

I bought this Novoflex NOPRI copy of a Visoflex 1 because I liked the look of the  Schneider 135mm f4.5 Xenar in short mount that came with it. The body of the housing has two tiny buttons on the back to raise the mirror which are almost impossible to reach when it is mounted on a camera, you are supposed to have a link that connects the shutter release button on the camera to the buttons on the reflex housing, but you can just trip the mirror with a fingernail.

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vor 2 Stunden schrieb Pyrogallol:

I bought this Novoflex NOPRI copy of a Visoflex 1 because I liked the look of the  Schneider 135mm f4.5 Xenar in short mount that came with it. The body of the housing has two tiny buttons on the back to raise the mirror which are almost impossible to reach when it is mounted on a camera, you are supposed to have a link that connects the shutter release button on the camera to the buttons on the reflex housing, but you can just trip the mirror with a fingernail.

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So the link to the shutter is sadly missing. Novoflex supplied three different ones for Leica screw-mount, Leica M and Conrad.

[Pyrogallol]

Wrong forum, but it’s wet and windy outside so I set up the old Graphic View 5x4 that I have inherited. When I got it it was dirty and dusty, I ended up washing it in a bucket of soapy water (not recommended for Leicas). The 135mm Xenar was no better and it got a good soak in WD40 (also frowned upon, but it got the shutter working) and the front of the lens looked as if it had paint on it, which cleaned up with thinners !

Works fine now, two sheets of FP4 washing.

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Novoflex with case

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the variants of shutter-linkage

[sandro]

On 5/8/2021 at 8:25 AM, Pyrogallol said:

I bought this Novoflex NOPRI copy of a Visoflex 1 because I liked the look of the  Schneider 135mm f4.5 Xenar in short mount that came with it. The body of the housing has two tiny buttons on the back to raise the mirror which are almost impossible to reach when it is mounted on a camera, you are supposed to have a link that connects the shutter release button on the camera to the buttons on the reflex housing, but you can just trip the mirror with a fingernail.

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I never knew until a few days ago that there existed such helicoids for a few Schneider lenses and also for the Steinheil Culminar 135mm. I tried the NOPRI on Leica M bodies, but it is rather difficult to turn the reflex house loose again from the body.The release bridge is relatively simple and solves the problem that you mention.

Lex

[wlaidlaw]

From the 1930's to the early 1960's, nearly every lens maker of note made lenses in L39 mount. Not all of these however have Leica compatible RF coupling or the 28.80mm flange focal distance. 

Wilson

[willeica]

My Contessa Nettel Luxus family has had a new baby, this time a Picolette from 1924.

 

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Here is the full family with from the left a plate camera which came with a 120 back, a 116 camera (can use 120 with adapters), 120 camera and, finally, the newly arrived Picolette which takes 127 film.

Dr August Nagel was responsible for producing these cameras and then sold the business to Zeiss Ikon. Later on he produced cameras in his own name and sold that business to Kodak, where he was responsible for introducing the Retina and the introduction of the pre-loaded 35mm cassettes we are so familiar with. He is a key figure in the development of cameras and photography, but is often overlooked.

I am happy to provide further details on these cameras for anyone who wants them 

William 

 

 

 

[zeitz]

2 hours ago, willeica said:

Dr August Nagel was responsible for producing these cameras and then sold the business to Zeiss Ikon.

The story is a little more complex.  First the Dr in front of August Nagel was an honorary degree; Nagel only had a basic education.  Second over the years and merger with Nettel, principals in the Contessa Nettel company had already sold their shares to the Zeiss Foundation.  So in 1926 Zeiss Ikon was formed by combining Ica, Ernemann, Goerz and Contessa Nettel with Nagel losing much of his control.  Nagel resigned from Zeiss Ikon in 1928.  He sold his shares in Zeiss Ikon to start the new Nagel camera company.

[wlaidlaw]

William, 

Your Contessa family are a bit like my Rollei TLR family (and their weird cousin). I have a 6x6 Rolleiflex 3.5 Planar F, a 4x4 (127 film) Grey Rollei Baby and then the quite rare Sharan built 8 x 11mm version, all currently sitting in my French house. The weird cousin is the 3003 35mm Rolleiflex system camera, which when on sale was the world's most expensive 35mm camera along with the Hasselblad XPAN. I could not resist it last year when I put in the base bid on a German auction of €400 (including auction fees) and won the camera complete with Zeiss 50/1.8, Rolleinar 35/2.8 and Rolleinar 28-105mm . The 28-105 has its usual fault of a stuck diaphragm and is away at the menders at the moment, to try and get it freed off. Like most Zeiss designed zoom lenses, it is first class and I would like to use it on my M10-R. 

Wilson

[willeica]

1 hour ago, zeitz said:

The story is a little more complex.  First the Dr in front of August Nagel was an honorary degree; Nagel only had a basic education.  Second over the years and merger with Nettel, principals in the Contessa Nettel company had already sold their shares to the Zeiss Foundation.  So in 1926 Zeiss Ikon was formed by combining Ica, Ernemann, Goerz and Contessa Nettel with Nagel losing much of his control.  Nagel resigned from Zeiss Ikon in 1928.  He sold his shares in Zeiss Ikon to start the new Nagel camera company.

Thanks. He did rather well for a person  with what you call a ‘basic education’. I was aware of the other parties being involved such as ICA. I don’t think we should diminish the achievements of the man, whatever about his educational attainments. I judge people by what they achieve rather than the letters before or after their name.

William 

[zeitz]

3 hours ago, willeica said:

I judge people by what they achieve rather than the letters before or after their name.

William, I'm not trying to judge anyone.  Basic education means that he ended his schooling at the normal point, that is why I called his eduction basic.  Facts are important in telling any story.

Nagel did amazing things in difficult times in history, proving a basic education is more than enough for gifted people.  Using Dr in front of ones name implies that one has an advanced education.  The use discourages people who then assume you can only be successful with an advanced degree.  The real message to people should be that for some formal education is unnecessary.  

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[pgk]

9 hours ago, zeitz said:

The use discourages people who then assume you can only be successful with an advanced degree.  The real message to people should be that for some formal education is unnecessary.  

I don't think that a 'nature versus nurture' debate is relevant here. Nagel obviously appreciated his doctorate enough to use it. Some do, some don't. I have friends who have PhDs, some of whom use their title but most of whom do not. As much as anything an advanced degree shows someone's capability of conducting research and as such is valuable to those looking for someone t undertake research. Without the qualification it is very difficult to tell whether someone has a proven track record of undertaking research. In the past there were numerous examples of people who did well without such qualifications but we live in a very different world today. (FWIW the idea of doing a PhD has never appealead to me in any way whatsoever .....).