Stef63 Posted June 16, 2020 Share #61 Posted June 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 9 hours ago, Ken Abrahams said: I use the back screen when shooting over fences or with lenses used with adapters that are not rangefinder coupled. The latter situation will be resolved when my evf arrives this week.😀 I use the EVF quite a lot lately. For macro, lenses over 75mm, indeed also for non rangefinder coupled lenses and for critical focussing with the noctilux. Although the EVF is not the best in class it is ok...AND does not result in a lockup of the M10. Good luck with the EVF ! BTW why do you think people set up a fence around their property 🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ken Abrahams Posted June 17, 2020 Share #62 Posted June 17, 2020 (edited) 😀 hi Stef63 sometimes I am shooting trains over fences using the rear screen for timing the shot 😂 Edited June 17, 2020 by Ken Abrahams 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlesRiver23 Posted June 22, 2020 Share #63 Posted June 22, 2020 On 4/18/2020 at 11:52 AM, jaapv said: Maybe changing the SD card might be of help? I tend to agree with you. I found M10 (and Q2) doesn't work well with some SDs. No shutter release (on M10) or showing SD full though there is plenty of space (on Q2). At least this is what I met (not only once). The problem can be solved by formatting the card. But it's dangerous if in the middle of a shooting plan. I feel it happens if I took the card to a reader to important photos to PC or iPad and then put the card back to use for a while. If I keep the card in the camera after last formatting I don't meet such issues. So I think change a different card brand might help. Hope it works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted July 9, 2020 Share #64 Posted July 9, 2020 After four months of use of my M10M, I finally experienced a 'lock-up' this afternoon. Over the four months I have made frequent use of the Visoflex, mostly with EVF-only selected and I generally have turned off the LV when wandering about in between shots. Today I left LV on (EVF only) and after maybe 45mins or so, it failed to respond to any press of a button. Took the battery out and after a short pause put it back - voila, all back to normal. Will revert to turning LV off in between photo-opportunities. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kegon Posted July 20, 2020 Share #65 Posted July 20, 2020 Had another lock-up yesterday... For the M10R a new firmware version is already available... Hopefully Leica does not forget about the M10M... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keith (M) Posted July 20, 2020 Share #66 Posted July 20, 2020 Well, today I fitted the EVF, turned the camera on, LV activated OK but at first attempt to take a photo the shutter would not fire (button would not fully depress) - LV remained active. Another case of having to take the battery out in order to regain control. Grrr... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nilei Posted March 19, 2022 Share #67 Posted March 19, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Are there any news on this topic? Is there meanwhile a solution to solve this issue? I have this issue as well from time to time when using LV. It happens with different SD cards. Firmware is up to date. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted March 21, 2022 Share #68 Posted March 21, 2022 On 3/20/2022 at 2:07 AM, Nilei said: Are there any news on this topic? Is there meanwhile a solution to solve this issue? I have this issue as well from time to time when using LV. It happens with different SD cards. Firmware is up to date. no news from the side of leica i guess, news from me? i am pissed, i was out yesterday, hiking in the mountains around beijing, when my m10m started to act up again, i couldnt fire a shot, live view was stilll working, on pushing the ok button the display started or stopped showing informations. when removing the lens the display went dark telling me "no lens", when putting it back on, the display showed the same error message. unfortunately i had a tripod plate installed, yeah my "mistake", and it was so tight i had to ask a friend like an hour later who had a coin, which helped to remove the plate and finally reset the camera, by then the battery was down to 5% or less............. i am really fed up with this 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwwile Posted March 24, 2022 Share #69 Posted March 24, 2022 I'll join the chorus (and I've read all the preceding comments). I have experienced lock ups (in the sense that the camera just dies, as if there were no battery, since shortly after buying the camera new. I have a Leica half case for the M10-M and the pattern I started to notice was that if I removed the case, or even loosened the attaching screw, the camera would be fine after removing and reinstalling the battery. (I am not an engineer--can you tell?) Today, however, the camera died, and nothing I have done has brought it back to life. I've used different SD cards, I format in the camera and I do not think I have ever used LV. Did I miss an answer or solution here or in another thread somewhere? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted March 25, 2022 Share #70 Posted March 25, 2022 3 hours ago, mwwile said: I'll join the chorus (and I've read all the preceding comments). I have experienced lock ups (in the sense that the camera just dies, as if there were no battery, since shortly after buying the camera new. I have a Leica half case for the M10-M and the pattern I started to notice was that if I removed the case, or even loosened the attaching screw, the camera would be fine after removing and reinstalling the battery. (I am not an engineer--can you tell?) Today, however, the camera died, and nothing I have done has brought it back to life. I've used different SD cards, I format in the camera and I do not think I have ever used LV. Did I miss an answer or solution here or in another thread somewhere? well the symptoms seem to be differnet for many of us, for me the camera still shows live view, but i cant take a picture, as i reported already. the thing in the end IS....leica needs to act! it cant be that during a session the camera becomes unresponsive, not at this price point. OR leica straight out says, their cameras are meant to be collected, not used. i for one, do enjoy my M10M alot and want to use it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RexGig0 Posted March 27, 2022 Share #71 Posted March 27, 2022 It is disappointing, indeed, to continue to see credible accounts of M10 Monochrom cameras exhibiting these problems. I am still resisting the siren song of the M10 Monochrom, by acquiring lenses, instead, to use on the M 246 and original M10, but if I yield to temptation, it seems that it would be best to buy a new M10 Monochrom, rather than pre-owned, lest I be buying someone else’s problem. A new one could be problematic, itself, of course, but, at least, I would be able to seek help, under the terms of the warranty. (Most of my Leica cameras and lenses, other than the M10, with which I started, have been acquired pre-owned.) I do appreciate the informative posts, in this discussion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerbs Posted March 27, 2022 Author Share #72 Posted March 27, 2022 Now that I've had the M10 Monochrom for a couple of years, my best guess is that the freezing up has to do with LiveView plus one other unknown interaction. Since I have been much more conscious of turning off LiveView as much as possible, I have had barely any freezes. I can also now rule out some kind of overheating cause, as just a month or two ago I had a freeze while shooting outside in a blizzard. So I would recommend turning off LiveView after each shot, since for me I have gone close to a year without a freeze while scrupulously turning it off... even though I basically use LiveView for every shot. Seems to work for me, and the way I use the camera. I am disappointed that there has not been a fix, that gets close to being unforgivable for what should be one of the highest quality cameras in the world. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted March 27, 2022 Share #73 Posted March 27, 2022 I had one of the first M10M’s released (I’ve owned each monochrom and updated as new ones have come out). I have not experienced problems like this. However, I have had issues with my M10-D and the settings can only be changed through the Fotos app because there is no display. I typically turned off the power saving feature so the camera was always ready (no wake-up time). I think that tends to overheat the insides of the camera bodies depending on the weather (I.e., if it is hot outside). I am wondering if some of the problems here are based on this with the EVF or other settings that do not let the camera sleep and cool down. I am guessing, but I would consider seeing if when your camera locks it is because it has been on, display on, EVF on for long periods without rest. Just a thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted March 28, 2022 Share #74 Posted March 28, 2022 and during yesterdays hike my m10m froze 3 times! luckily this time my tripod plate was easily removable so i could reset the camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted April 5, 2022 Share #75 Posted April 5, 2022 and now my new m10r bp, is doing the same thing, probably even more regularely Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoramer Posted April 18, 2022 Share #76 Posted April 18, 2022 my tip: 32GB SanDisk Extreme Pro SDHC U3 10 (95 MB/sec.) Card. Since then I haven't had any more problems. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen.s1 Posted April 23, 2022 Share #77 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) I got into this just yesterday. LV overlooked (literally) and had to remove battery four or five times to keep shooting. LEICA ARE YOU LISTENING??! Edited April 23, 2022 by Stephen.s1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted April 24, 2022 Share #78 Posted April 24, 2022 i switched from a sandisk 32gb extreme pro 95mb/s to a sandisk 128gb exteme, 150mb/s, SO FAR, no more crashes on my M10M, but my good, this problem really shouldnt be a thing in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted April 25, 2022 Share #79 Posted April 25, 2022 (edited) Had this happen in the winter and always figured it was the reduced temperature. Using LV, the camera would become unresponsive to either tripping the shutter or powering down. Only solution was to pull the battery. Using 32 gb and 64 gb sandisk extreme pro 95 mb/s, makes no difference. The other day I was shooting at 10 degrees centigrade, and had the same issue. Major PITA as I need to remove the camera from the tripod and take the Really Right Stuff plate off. Exceptionally annoying when compositing images for stacking. I have the M10M and M10-R, and with over $20K spent on these two bodies, Leica had fcking better get the issue sorted. Edited April 25, 2022 by jplomley Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted April 27, 2022 Share #80 Posted April 27, 2022 On 4/26/2022 at 1:36 AM, jplomley said: Had this happen in the winter and always figured it was the reduced temperature. Using LV, the camera would become unresponsive to either tripping the shutter or powering down. Only solution was to pull the battery. Using 32 gb and 64 gb sandisk extreme pro 95 mb/s, makes no difference. The other day I was shooting at 10 degrees centigrade, and had the same issue. Major PITA as I need to remove the camera from the tripod and take the Really Right Stuff plate off. Exceptionally annoying when compositing images for stacking. I have the M10M and M10-R, and with over $20K spent on these two bodies, Leica had fcking better get the issue sorted. with people still buying their products at any price, they couldnt give less of a sh!t, i mean on certain critical topics they dont even answer emails at all. the Ms are cool cameras, look fantastic and are fun to shoot with, but since the first digital M, this freezing problem reoccurs again and again, one would assume they find a way to tackle the issue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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