cheekz4dayz Posted February 5, 2021 Share #261 Posted February 5, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, 1400700226 said: Wow, thanks so much!!! The link is working😄 No problem, glad to also know the link works lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 Hi cheekz4dayz, Take a look here Leica Apo-Summicron-SL2.0/35mm - average performer?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
cirke Posted February 8, 2021 Share #262 Posted February 8, 2021 I like DXO mark but technical tests and field experience are 2 different things remember: the M9 was the worst of all 24x36 on the DXO tests. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted June 12, 2021 Share #263 Posted June 12, 2021 https://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/mirrorless-lenses/mirrorless-lenses-full-frame/leica-apo-summicron-sl-35mm-f-2-asph-lens/#Full_Review Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted June 12, 2021 Share #264 Posted June 12, 2021 I've had this lens for over a year now. First year I shot with it, the lens was used wide open, its just that good. However, lately I have been pressing it into landscape use, and have found there is significantly more DOF in front of the focus plane than behind. Perhaps this also contributes to why f/2.0 appears like f/1.4...they've fiddled the focus shift??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted June 12, 2021 Share #265 Posted June 12, 2021 Is the focus v sharpness symmetrical about the sharpest point of focus? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted June 12, 2021 Share #266 Posted June 12, 2021 2 hours ago, jrp said: Is the focus v sharpness symmetrical about the sharpest point of focus? The sharpness level where it is sharp is similar. There is just a larger zone of sharpness in front of the focus plane, almost two thirds. I'm used to seeing about 1/3 (except in macro where its closer to 1:1) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrp Posted June 12, 2021 Share #267 Posted June 12, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes, hard to map. Distance x f stop -> front : back ratio Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted June 13, 2021 Share #268 Posted June 13, 2021 20 hours ago, jrp said: https://www.photoreview.com.au/reviews/mirrorless-lenses/mirrorless-lenses-full-frame/leica-apo-summicron-sl-35mm-f-2-asph-lens/#Full_Review funny that every review of Sony, Nikon and canon score better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 13, 2021 Share #269 Posted June 13, 2021 18 hours ago, jplomley said: The sharpness level where it is sharp is similar. There is just a larger zone of sharpness in front of the focus plane, almost two thirds. I'm used to seeing about 1/3 (except in macro where its closer to 1:1) The distribution of sharpness on both sides of the focal plane is a factor of lens design. It is almost never even. As you note, it could theoretically happen with a symmetrical macro lens used at 1:1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted June 13, 2021 Share #270 Posted June 13, 2021 Every time I stumble upon this thread title, I hear a voice, "your mother is an average performer," addressed to nobody in particular...:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logon Posted June 14, 2021 Share #271 Posted June 14, 2021 23 hours ago, Photoworks said: funny that every review of Sony, Nikon and canon score better. it's an old story. the real question though is: do photos taken with nikon and sony lenses look better? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted June 14, 2021 Share #272 Posted June 14, 2021 3 hours ago, Logon said: it's an old story. the real question though is: do photos taken with nikon and sony lenses look better? 1. define "better". 2. These looks good to me: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logon Posted June 14, 2021 Share #273 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Simone_DF said: 1. define "better". 2. These looks good to me: https://www.worldphoto.org/sony-world-photography-awards Sharpnes, bokeh, tones, color rendition, three-dimensionality... Many lenses give not exciting results in measurement tests but then in practice they give wonderful images. Other lenses have extraordinary sharpness in tests but then give too contrasted images with unnatural colors and have a bad bokeh. The measures do not say everything. Regarding the reviews it depends on who they are made by and how. Often those who make them are sponsored by the manufacturers and avoid talking badly about the products. You have to try the lens yourself, make prints and then judge them according to your taste. This is my thought. Edited June 14, 2021 by Logon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted June 14, 2021 Share #274 Posted June 14, 2021 (edited) One example: The Canon EF 1.2 50 L - on paper a not so good performer. In real life (and if the focus is not completely off) an absolut wonderful lens which rewarded me with really great results. Sharp, colourful and a lovely and smooth rendition and transition from sharp to blurry. Another one: The current Leica Summaron-m 28, one of the worst lenses on paper - especially for the price. In real life: An absolute gem, plenty of sharp in the wide center, lovely colours and a contrast / colour behavior I've never seen from any other lens and if light and circumstances fit, a nearly magical output (without being odd, like the Thambar - sorry to all Thambar lovers). And so on, and so on. To the initial question: I don't think that the 35 is an average performer, quite the opposite And, if we are honest: For good pictures - the final and absolute image or lens quality is not so important, as long as it is good enough to get the job done. A though truth for the likes of us who are paying thousands of bucks for a single lens Cheers Edited June 14, 2021 by Daniel C.1975 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted June 14, 2021 Share #275 Posted June 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Logon said: Regarding the reviews it depends on who they are made by and how. Often those who make them are sponsored by the manufacturers and avoid talking badly about the products. You have to try the lens yourself, make prints and then judge them according to your taste. This is my thought. That is for sure. I trust 2-3 reviewers, maybe. Dustin Abbot and Fred Miranda come to mind as examples of good ones. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logon Posted June 14, 2021 Share #276 Posted June 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, Daniel C.1975 said: To the initial question: I don't think that the 35 is an average performer, quite the opposite I totally agree with you 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted June 14, 2021 Share #277 Posted June 14, 2021 On 2/23/2020 at 12:17 AM, NRKstudio said: Pcmag.com tested the Panasonic 50/1.4 and and the 75 SL. The 75 SL is sharper at all tested apertures. If the 35 SL (and the 50 SL) are sharper than the 75 SL, then all would be sharper than the Panasonic 50/1.4. The 35/50SL are both second gen SL lenses that incorporated newer tech And more ASPH surfaces; im wondering what this 3rd round of SL lenses will have to show. The 28/24/21mm SL may be even a step up from where the SL lenses are currently in terms of tech and glass. https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/panasonic-lumix-s-pro-50mm-f14 https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/leica-apo-summicron-sl-75mm-f2-asph However the $600 Nikon 50/1.8 Z, crushes all of the above lenses even on its 45mp Z7 body. I was surprised to read that it’s smaller, lighter, sharper and about 8-9x cheaper. Kind of makes me think twice about saying Leica is The Premier specialist Optics company, when Nikon takes the leading spot with an entry level 50mm prime. https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/nikon-nikkor-z-50mm-f18-s I have the Nikon 50mm 1.8. It's a great great lens. For the money it's staggering. But it does not best the Leica Summicrons, especially in rendering and colour. The Leicas are not 8 x times better. Diminishing returns and all that. Gordon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkinVan Posted June 14, 2021 Share #278 Posted June 14, 2021 I've had the lens for over a year as well and I continue to marvel at how much I enjoy the pictures it takes. Combined with the SL2, sharp corner to corner wide open, works in almost any light and am also told how I've upped my game. If for whatever reason I needed to replace it, I would buy it again as soon as available. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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