JeremyG Posted November 6, 2018 Share #21 Posted November 6, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, SonomaBear said: Disappointed. "P" has always meant "Premium" with slightly better specs, enhancements, etc. The only "improvement" is the shutter release -- I "shudder" to think that alone is an upgrade. I'll keep carrying my "old" Q everywhere -- with gaffer tape over the dot and mic holes. It's perfect stealth for the Bear! I converted my Q to a Q-P months ago with a bit of black tape however I do like the new black colour although not sure how the brown strap fits into the concept. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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LeicaMyQ Posted November 6, 2018 Share #22 Posted November 6, 2018 The Q is successful for the price point for the features it offers. At the same time the Q is also sucessful because of its form factor which is very much similar to that of a M. Precisely the reason I sold my Sony AR Mirror-less and bought the Q. The Sony Digital Cameras are Computers with lenses. My 4 year old neighbor took an excellent photo when the Sony was set to fully automatic. That is not photography, IMO. The Q appeals to the person who wants to control aperture, shutter speed and focus instead of having the camera (computer) do it for them. Having said that, I am not going to trade my Q with the red logo and orange lens markings for the Q-P that offers no improvements worthy of making the switch, other than "stealth" capabilities which can be duplicated easily with electrical tape. (Note that a very visible Leica Logo with the made in Wetzlar tag line was added to the top of the Q-P. Not exactly a stealth move on Leica's part.) Where's the weather sealing? Why is the power switch still designed to put you into continuous mode when you want single? Is Leica actually reading the Leica Q Forum posts? Not impressed. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted November 7, 2018 Share #23 Posted November 7, 2018 I fear Leica are risking the -P moniker with the Q-P. I have no problem with the Q-P but it is more akin to a special edition than anything else. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted November 7, 2018 Share #24 Posted November 7, 2018 Congratulations to the Leica design team and marketing teams. The Q-P is a step forward offering for consumer choice as well as ROI to Leica Camera AG I suggest the Q product line hits a sweet spot for many varied demographics of consumers and I hope this product line can help improve Leica's market share and revenue growth (& profitability). I intend to buy one. Please keep up this good work in this market segment. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 7, 2018 Share #25 Posted November 7, 2018 10 hours ago, SonomaBear said: I'll keep carrying my "old" Q everywhere -- with gaffer tape over the dot and mic holes. It's perfect stealth for the Bear! I've still got 3+ year old tape over my mic holes too....and the dioptre wheel which kept moving by itself. I know a magnum photographer who does the same with his Q. And my Q almost upgraded itself to a Q-P when the red dot came off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raizans Posted November 7, 2018 Share #26 Posted November 7, 2018 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The only mayonnaise for the Leica Q-P owner. The design of the "P" cameras is always nicer than the non-P that comes before. They should just skip them entirely! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! The only mayonnaise for the Leica Q-P owner. The design of the "P" cameras is always nicer than the non-P that comes before. They should just skip them entirely! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/291229-leica-q-p-released/?do=findComment&comment=3626999'>More sharing options...
Ecaton Posted November 7, 2018 Share #27 Posted November 7, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Another Leica product lifecycle management initiative. No reason to switch for first generation Q owners and too little to gain new customers imho. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
koiroy Posted November 7, 2018 Share #28 Posted November 7, 2018 I;m sorry, what is the point of no Red Dot on this $5000.00 product? I have been in brand marketing for 40 years, and would never would recommend such a tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted November 7, 2018 Share #29 Posted November 7, 2018 46 minutes ago, koiroy said: I;m sorry, what is the point of no Red Dot on this $5000.00 product? I have been in brand marketing for 40 years, and would never would recommend such a tactic. It's called reverse snobbery... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voxen Posted November 7, 2018 Share #30 Posted November 7, 2018 5K for a 3 years old fixed lens camera, am I the only one here who find this sick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted November 7, 2018 Share #31 Posted November 7, 2018 Is this a last hurrah for the Q and indicative that a Q2 with a higher MP sensor is on the way? Normally I would find 24MP more than enough and have M240, SL and CL in this pixel count. However with a fixed 28mm lens, I would often be cropping and there, more pixels would be a distinct advantage. My guess is that a Q2 will use a 42MP sensor or maybe even 54, using the same 4µm pixel spacing as the CL's APS-C sensor (whose low light performance is perfectly acceptable). At the moment, with "just" 24MP, I can arrive at a very similar camera by mounting my 28mm ASPH Summicron on the M240, albeit a bit bigger. I am totally happy with MF rather than AF. A Q2 with a 42 or 54 MP sensor would be very attractive to me, as a pocketable camera. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted November 7, 2018 Share #32 Posted November 7, 2018 Adding 'P' to a Leica product usually means it has entered old age and will be replaced in the next 12 months. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WvE Posted November 7, 2018 Share #33 Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Voxen said: 5K for a 3 years old fixed lens camera, am I the only one here who find this sick? Agree, but Leica knows its customers, they often buy with their heart, not heir head. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rvh Posted November 7, 2018 Share #34 Posted November 7, 2018 It's difficult to understand why a company proudly removes the company logo and offers the existing product as "innovative and more decent" at a higher price. I suppose that in the next step the company's name will be totally replaced by "company no. XYZ, Wetzlar Germany". Competitors would pay billions of Dollars to obtain the license for the red dot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
duoenboge Posted November 7, 2018 Share #35 Posted November 7, 2018 The Q-P is really beautifully. Now I expect a silver one. I imagine it could be even nicer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kengai Posted November 7, 2018 Share #36 Posted November 7, 2018 and when the new Q? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
howiebrou Posted November 7, 2018 Share #37 Posted November 7, 2018 1 hour ago, thighslapper said: Adding 'P' to a Leica product usually means it has entered old age and will be replaced in the next 12 months. I’m looking forward to the SL-P or may be we will have an analogue like version or SL-A-P! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tgdinamo Posted November 7, 2018 Share #38 Posted November 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Voxen said: 5K for a 3 years old fixed lens camera, am I the only one here who find this sick? As long as that fixed Sumilux lens produces the best IQ available at 28mm and FF (which is still true) they can happily keep selling it (also while 5K is a lot, it seems like a bargain compared to other Leica FF options). 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfowler Posted November 7, 2018 Share #39 Posted November 7, 2018 Still not weather-sealed or dust proof - why why why why why why why again why?? That added brown strap should be an added gaffers tape instead. All this is - is the Q without the red dot. smh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow detail Posted November 7, 2018 Share #40 Posted November 7, 2018 (edited) after months of speculation about a new Q, there is inevitably a sense of disappointment when the reality is a very minor upgrade and a price hike. It would be a nice gesture by Leica if we were invited into our nearest dealer to have the new shutter release fitted to our original Q’s ................and have our red dots removed Don’t hold your breath. Edited November 7, 2018 by shadow detail Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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