UliWer Posted November 29, 2017 Share #321 Posted November 29, 2017 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Yes that is all - as far as I can see. I uploaded it, just out of curiosity and it worked properly - the menu says my camera is on Firmware 1.10.4.0 now. In the list where you can manually chose a lens detection I don't find the two new lenses - which is normal as both were only offered (with M bayonet) coded, so they are not in the list. The outlier is the 1:5.6/28mm Summaron-M which still is in the list, though... (see below) I tried some functions which I know were wrong in the M10 firmware: e.g. wrong indication of EV "- 3" on the display when you choose any other value for EV-correction - after you switched the camera off and on again; before you switch it off it is right! Same bug as before. When you chose the 28mm Summaron from the manual list of lens detection and use an adapter for the old screw-mount version - only possibility to use this entry in the list - your choice of the lens will not stay but it automatically switches to "Auto" - because the adapter doesn't cover the LED for reading the codes on lenses which have them. So the entry in the list is useless. Same as before. Of course no f-values in the EXIF - though this bothers me as much as the Thambar or the new Noctilux... Edited November 29, 2017 by UliWer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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willemr Posted November 29, 2017 Share #322 Posted November 29, 2017 I hope that this was a quick’n dirty update for thise lenses, and they’re still working hard on the actual bugs/improvements. Which will be released shortly (hopefully) Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted November 29, 2017 Share #323 Posted November 29, 2017 "quick'n dirty" is an interesting description when one talks about two lenses which cost about 18.000,-€ together. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willemr Posted November 29, 2017 Share #324 Posted November 29, 2017 I’d like to believe that adding a lens profile is easier than fixing bugs and testing those to make sure that the ‘cure’ won’t break anything else. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charles_nl Posted December 1, 2017 Share #325 Posted December 1, 2017 I tried you bug (of which I wasn't aware) with 1.10.4.0, but it seems OK for me. I tried several EV values, pos and neg, switch off/on and the EV value is retained between the switches. Photo's taken correspond to EV setting and correct EV setting is given in play mode. In fact, this behaviour is the same as in 1.0.4.0 because my firmware upgrade did not install the first time andthe M10 did a recovery upgrade, which means back to 1.0.4.0 which is apparently built-in. At first I didn't notice this, so was doing my tests with 1.0.4.0. Charles I tried some functions which I know were wrong in the M10 firmware: e.g. wrong indication of EV "- 3" on the display when you choose any other value for EV-correction - after you switched the camera off and on again; before you switch it off it is right! Same bug as before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted December 1, 2017 Share #326 Posted December 1, 2017 I’d like to believe that adding a lens profile is easier than fixing bugs and testing those to make sure that the ‘cure’ won’t break anything else. I believe that's true - though I don't know what it takes to add a new function for lens detection. On the other hand we hear, that the new Noctilux will be in the stores probably next March and I doubt that there are many Thambars sold now whilst I still cannot imagine what the lens detection would do with a Thambar. Nevertheless they were very quick to add those new detections. When I look at my R-to-M or my Macro-Adapter, I see that both are coded. When I use the coded adapters - what does lens detection of the M10 do? Nothing. Perhaps I missed something, though I could imagine that automatic lens detection would trigger the last R-lens I choose from the menu; since I have only one R-lens, this could be convenient. Nonetheless I have to choose always the same lens from the menu manually although my adapter is coded. The Macro-Adapter could trigger the lens detection for the Makro Elmar, which it doesn't. Both functions are not really important, as well as other "bugs" as long as they don't impede the camera to function as it should. I realize that Leica is rather quick with functions for lenses which are not to be bought yet or just by a very small handful of people, but rather slow about some common issues. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willemr Posted December 17, 2017 Share #327 Posted December 17, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) What would be nice is a menu setting to disable the live-view button on the back. I was out last week, and the button got pressed while the camera hung around my neck and bounced into my jacket. The first time it didn't register, so it kept draining the battery for no reason. I noticed it the second time, so I turned it of right-away. I seldom use the live-view option (no1 reason being the almost mirror-like reflective screen), so if I wanted live view it's no problem to enter the menu to enable it. Or the option that you need to press longer to activate it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted December 17, 2017 Share #328 Posted December 17, 2017 There ist such thing. In the german menu it is: EVF/Monitor-Umschaltung - LV Bildschirm - LV deaktiviert 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willemr Posted December 17, 2017 Share #329 Posted December 17, 2017 There ist such thing. In the german menu it is: EVF/Monitor-Umschaltung - LV Bildschirm - LV deaktiviert Well I'll be damned. I must have missed that setting because of the EVF reference (which I don't have). Thanks! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX400 Posted December 17, 2017 Share #330 Posted December 17, 2017 I did some testing today and they did not fix the EXIF bug I wanted fixed on the 1.10.4.0 update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted December 17, 2017 Share #331 Posted December 17, 2017 What exif bug? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted December 20, 2017 Share #332 Posted December 20, 2017 I just received my M10. It has firmware 1.9.4.0. I haven't updated to 1.10.4.0 since it appears only to add the two new lenses. However, the Lux AA Double Aspherical 11873 is missing from the manual list in 1.9.4.0. It was in the list of the 240. Would someone with 1.10.4.0 please check if 11873 is in the list? Thanks, Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted December 20, 2017 Share #333 Posted December 20, 2017 I just received my M10. It has firmware 1.9.4.0. I haven't updated to 1.10.4.0 since it appears only to add the two new lenses. However, the Lux AA Double Aspherical 11873 is missing from the manual list in 1.9.4.0. It was in the list of the 240. Would someone with 1.10.4.0 please check if 11873 is in the list? Thanks, Alan Checked with 1.10.4.0 in 35 f/1.4 Asph. 11663/11874/11883 that's all 11873 not listed 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted December 20, 2017 Share #334 Posted December 20, 2017 Request to Leica - please add 11873 to manual lens list. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colorflow Posted December 20, 2017 Share #335 Posted December 20, 2017 Checked with 1.10.4.0 in 35 f/1.4 Asph. 11663/11874/11883 that's all 11873 not listed Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TX400 Posted January 2, 2018 Share #336 Posted January 2, 2018 (edited) What exif bug? I started this thread about it: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/279286-exiftool-reveals-m10-metadata-is-sloppy-work/ Basically it seems like the EXIF data that says how many bytes long the color profile information is is not correct. There's some other weirdness too when extracting image preview data from the EXIF data. It's not catastrophic, but it should at least be correct. Edited January 2, 2018 by TX400 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdemeyer Posted January 16, 2018 Share #337 Posted January 16, 2018 (edited) Perhaps not the camera per-se, but I frequently find that DNG files imported to my iPhone 6 are often unreadable but either the photo browser or LIghtroom (mobile version). Using the Leica app and WiFi to transfer. I have much better success when importing them to an iPhone 7. Edited January 16, 2018 by mdemeyer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted January 18, 2018 Share #338 Posted January 18, 2018 Must have been mentioned here before - though I only realized it yesterday: The 1:1,4/35mm Summilux (non asph) is not anymore in the list for manual lens detection.The M9 still had it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted January 18, 2018 Share #339 Posted January 18, 2018 Leica has never supported the pre-ASPH 35 Summilux on digital in any way, shape or form. No profile exists, no associated 6-bit code exists. Never in the 11 years since the M8 came out. It is a "non-person" in Leica's digital world. ... adan's statement puzzled me after I thought I found it yesterday in the menu of the M9. So I checked again: the ordering number for the 35mm Summilux was 11870 (black) and 11860 (titanium). Here is the list in the menu of the M9: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! In the M10 list it is left out as well as the entry for the ASPHERICAL. In stead we have an entry for the 1:5.6/28mm Summaron which is unusable for the old version with screw-mount adapter (the new M-version doesn't need a manual entry since it is always coded...) Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! In the M10 list it is left out as well as the entry for the ASPHERICAL. In stead we have an entry for the 1:5.6/28mm Summaron which is unusable for the old version with screw-mount adapter (the new M-version doesn't need a manual entry since it is always coded...) ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/268492-m10-fw-requestsbug-reports/?do=findComment&comment=3443063'>More sharing options...
adan Posted January 18, 2018 Share #340 Posted January 18, 2018 Ahhh - my mistake! There is no 6-bit code pattern assigned that will identify a 35 'lux pre-ASPH, https://lavidaleica.com/content/leica-lens-codes .....but you are quite right that it is in the M9 menu for manual selection. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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