helged Posted December 13, 2015 Share #61 Posted December 13, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) See another page showing too excessive in-camera corrections for the SL+280 APO f4 combo - please correct! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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avitanza Posted December 13, 2015 Share #62 Posted December 13, 2015 I am very pleased with the overall setup of the Leica SL..For me I would like to have better battery life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted December 13, 2015 Share #63 Posted December 13, 2015 Mode Lock should not be ON by default, because if it is, and you accidentally tap the LV button, then the shutter is locked. I thought I'd got an M240 lock up issue. A total reset was the only solution (till I realised what the problem was). So Mode Lock should be OFF by default. In the same way as you can switch off video on the M, you should be able to disable video functions on the SL and reassign the buttons: the Video button and the LV preview button. Make the LV display fully customisable, not just a choice between a number of screens. E.g. to see the histogram AND the horizon, and decide which camera info should be displayed. ModeLock is Leica's way to make the SL serve both photo bigots (no video, thank you!) and video bigots, who want the opposite. I like it, but touching LV catapults you into the other universe without warning. I'd like to see something like mode lock, but requiring a long press of LV to switch over, and a short press of LV useable for something else, like exposure or AF tweaking. The present setup just makes the accidental shifts of mode a little harder to catch and recover from. Any replacement scheme would have to be symmetric, doing something for both video and still people. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 14, 2015 Share #64 Posted December 14, 2015 ModeLock is Leica's way to make the SL serve both photo bigots (no video, thank you!) and video bigots, who want the opposite. I like it, but touching LV catapults you into the other universe without warning. I'd like to see something like mode lock, but requiring a long press of LV to switch over, and a short press of LV useable for something else, like exposure or AF tweaking. The present setup just makes the accidental shifts of mode a little harder to catch and recover from. Any replacement scheme would have to be symmetric, doing something for both video and still people. Hmm. I'm quite comfortable with Mode Lock and the LV mode button as is. I can easily see that I'm in movie mode and just tap LV when I want to exit back to stills mode. Seems obvious to me, I've not been trapped in one or the other mode. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvus Posted December 15, 2015 Share #65 Posted December 15, 2015 New 1.2 firmware does not remember where you zoomed the focus patch to. Leica is still wanting the boring centered subject look. I still have to zoom in then move the patch every time I take a photo. Very slow for portraits with the Nocti. Fujifilm and Sony remember. In the case of the Fujifilm XT-1 it remembers even if the camera is shut off. So please start a new page with the necessary improvements to the next patch. The only small nice thing I can say is, 1.2 came out much more quickly than I thought it would. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 15, 2015 Share #66 Posted December 15, 2015 New 1.2 firmware does not remember where you zoomed the focus patch to. Leica is still wanting the boring centered subject look. I still have to zoom in then move the patch every time I take a photo. Very slow for portraits with the Nocti. Fujifilm and Sony remember. In the case of the Fujifilm XT-1 it remembers even if the camera is shut off. So please start a new page with the necessary improvements to the next patch. The only small nice thing I can say is, 1.2 came out much more quickly than I thought it would. Perhaps it should be an option. For my shooting, I rarely need to remember between focusing moments a previous shot's focus point, so on cameras that preserve the focus point position for focus magnification I find myself having to try to remember how to get it back to center in one press... (With the Olympus, there is the notion of a "home" position, which the user can control, and you can map a button to return the focus point to that home position in one press.) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Spencer Posted December 15, 2015 Share #67 Posted December 15, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Perhaps it should be an option. For my shooting, I rarely need to remember between focusing moments a previous shot's focus point, so on cameras that preserve the focus point position for focus magnification I find myself having to try to remember how to get it back to center in one press... (With the Olympus, there is the notion of a "home" position, which the user can control, and you can map a button to return the focus point to that home position in one press.) What I would like to see as an option is being able to move the focus point to wherever you want in the frame and then push the joystick to magnify that spot. This could be very useful to get the magnification near the spot where you want it. It would also work pretty quickly if you wanted magnification in the centre. Just move the focus point to the centre and press the joystick, Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 15, 2015 Share #68 Posted December 15, 2015 What I would like to see as an option is being able to move the focus point to wherever you want in the frame and then push the joystick to magnify that spot. This could be very useful to get the magnification near the spot where you want it. It would also work pretty quickly if you wanted magnification in the centre. Just move the focus point to the centre and press the joystick, We basically have this now...its the opposite, but why does it matter if you select the position before or after you zoom in? The feature is so fast and responsive I rather like it just the way it is. Push the joystick to zoom in and then adjust L-R-U-D to the spot touch the shutter to come back out and expose. Its very fast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Spencer Posted December 15, 2015 Share #69 Posted December 15, 2015 We basically have this now...its the opposite, but why does it matter if you select the position before or after you zoom in? The feature is so fast and responsive I rather like it just the way it is. Push the joystick to zoom in and then adjust L-R-U-D to the spot touch the shutter to come back out and expose. Its very fast. I think it is easier to get to spot you want when you can see the whole frame rather than in magnified view when you can't. For example, if you wanted to get to the centre when you can see the whole frame this is easy, but not nearly so when you are in magnified view, or is you want a rule of thirds composition that is easy when you can see the whole frame, but much harder in magnified view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted December 15, 2015 Share #70 Posted December 15, 2015 I think it is easier to get to spot you want when you can see the whole frame rather than in magnified view when you can't. For example, if you wanted to get to the centre when you can see the whole frame this is easy, but not nearly so when you are in magnified view, or is you want a rule of thirds composition that is easy when you can see the whole frame, but much harder in magnified view. Ive only been using the feature for a day, but I find it works quite well. The system is so fast I can enable zoom and very quickly find the spot I want to focus on. So far I haven't had any issues at all very quickly focusing anywhere in the frame. I was actually quite surprised how fast this is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff S Posted December 15, 2015 Share #71 Posted December 15, 2015 I agree the new location of mag is great. But it would be even better if we can move the focus point say to the eyes first then press to magnify then focus. For me it would be that much quicker to move the spot before magnifying. Otherwise you're sort of guessing where to go. Doable but a bit more effort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Spencer Posted December 15, 2015 Share #72 Posted December 15, 2015 Ive only been using the feature for a day, but I find it works quite well. The system is so fast I can enable zoom and very quickly find the spot I want to focus on. So far I haven't had any issues at all very quickly focusing anywhere in the frame. I was actually quite surprised how fast this is. There is speed and there is composition. Let's say you are taking a portrait and like a rule of thirds composition when looking at the whole frame. You zoom in and then move over to the face or better yet eye of your target, but is the whole composition still what you want? It may be and you will know when you hit the joystick again or half press the shutter, but what if you (or the subject) moved a bit while you were zooming and you don't like the composition. The you have to magnify again and start the whole process over again. For composition I would rather position where I want to zoom in, zoom in, recheck composition and trip the shutter, but that may be just me. I would love to have this as an option, however. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted December 15, 2015 Share #73 Posted December 15, 2015 while Leica fixed the "GPS bug" for the S http://leicarumors.com/2015/11/23/new-firmware-update-version-2-0-for-leica-s-typ-007-released.aspx/ "Bug Fix: If GPS is off, no GPS data is stored in the files" it still remains in SL's Firmware 1.2: So every shot without GPS says GPS-Data 0,0, which is a place in Gulf of Guinea (where Jono ant to open a bar). Curious, they know it and fix it for the S - and forget the SL... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 15, 2015 Share #74 Posted December 15, 2015 while Leica fixed the "GPS bug" for the S http://leicarumors.com/2015/11/23/new-firmware-update-version-2-0-for-leica-s-typ-007-released.aspx/ "Bug Fix: If GPS is off, no GPS data is stored in the files" it still remains in SL's Firmware 1.2: So every shot without GPS says GPS-Data 0,0, which is a place in Gulf of Guinea (where Jono ant to open a bar). Curious, they know it and fix it for the S - and forget the SL... I wouldn't presume that the "they" who work on the S are the same "they" who work on the SL. It's likely two entirely different engineering teams. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted December 15, 2015 Share #75 Posted December 15, 2015 ...maybe - but both "theys" made the same very special mistake! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 15, 2015 Share #76 Posted December 15, 2015 ...maybe - but both "theys" made the same very special mistake! The one just probably copied some code over from the company repository. Happens all the time ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirage Posted December 23, 2015 Share #77 Posted December 23, 2015 2. Swap the play and focus magnify buttons or make the standard four buttons user programable. I have no idea how they thought the focus magnify should be where it is and that a photographer would prefer the play button to be always available at eye level???? Firmware was obviously programmed by somebody who never had the real camera in hand. (Maybe after finished some programming for a Panasonic video recorder.) The unused dials in aperture and time priority modes – while setting exposure compensation is painfully cumbersome – is another proof for this theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirage Posted December 23, 2015 Share #78 Posted December 23, 2015 Leica is giving away (almost all) important benefits of mirrorless EVF cameras. (Currently Olympus does it best) So please: 1. Direct exposure compensation instead of unused dials (silly !) in "A" and "T" modes. 2. In "M" mode: show the effect of aperture and exposure time settings in the viewfinder. The makers of the firmware are obviously software guys with no experience in photography, so: 3. Make the buttons fully customisable. Some unchangeable default solutions are really crazy: short press for seldom used, long for important functions, presets at the most unrealistic positions (unless you can push the focus magnify aid button with your tongue). 4. Toggle option for "AE" 5. Options for exposure compensation (back to zero on switch off, back to zero after shot, back to zero with a single press of a button). Leica has to understand, that wit EVF-s, there are new, sometimes more effective possibilities to react fast and take the perfect shot. Others, not solved by the above mentioned: 6. Fix for the GPS bug. Peter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted December 23, 2015 Share #79 Posted December 23, 2015 Leica is giving away (almost all) important benefits of mirrorless EVF cameras. (Currently Olympus does it best) So please: 1. Direct exposure compensation instead of unused dials (silly !) in "A" and "T" modes. 2. In "M" mode: show the effect of aperture and exposure time settings in the viewfinder. The makers of the firmware are obviously software guys with no experience in photography, so: 3. Make the buttons fully customisable. Some unchangeable default solutions are really crazy: short press for seldom used, long for important functions, presets at the most unrealistic positions (unless you can push the focus magnify aid button with your tongue). 4. Toggle option for "AE" 5. Options for exposure compensation (back to zero on switch off, back to zero after shot, back to zero with a single press of a button). Leica has to understand, that wit EVF-s, there are new, sometimes more effective possibilities to react fast and take the perfect shot. Others, not solved by the above mentioned: 6. Fix for the GPS bug. Peter #2 is already implemented with Exposure Simulation mode (two presses on the FN button). #4 "Toggle option for AE" ? do you mean AE-Lock? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baptiste Posted December 23, 2015 Share #80 Posted December 23, 2015 Correct further the accuracy of the color rendering in the EVF. Firmware 1.1 has been welcomed to reduce the blue-ish color, remains still some magenta artefacts in the darks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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