Rick Posted November 2, 2015 Share #2001 Posted November 2, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) A root canal or an SL? From the interweb postings it would seem that a lot of folks out there would rather have the former. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted November 2, 2015 Posted November 2, 2015 Hi Rick, Take a look here NEW M.. This year.. This Fall.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Peter H Posted November 2, 2015 Share #2002 Posted November 2, 2015 Let's hope this is 2000 and last I am the cruel spirit of despair and I am here to dash your hopes. (and to complete the quote: Would you like fries with that?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 2, 2015 Share #2003 Posted November 2, 2015 A root canal is more than a bit more expensive - sounds like the classic Leica dilemma?.. Yeah, it introduces the concept of a bridge - camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2004 Posted November 3, 2015 A root canal or an SL? From the interweb postings it would seem that a lot of folks out there would rather have the former. A root canal done by the expertly hands of Jaap must be a work of art and a much better long term investment than the SL Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardM Posted November 3, 2015 Author Share #2005 Posted November 3, 2015 Honestly I feel guilty for this thread and dissapointed that New M turned out to SL. So its up to moderators to close or not this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2006 Posted November 3, 2015 Why? Let it run until the Next M does appear, whenever that may be It might be interesting for Leica to shift to a four-year cycle for M cameras - who knows. It would hit Photokina each time and the system is pretty mature anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2007 Posted November 3, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) [...] It might be interesting for Leica to shift to a four-year cycle for M cameras - who knows. It would hit Photokina each time and the system is pretty mature anyway. The EVF has reached its maturation limit though. It should be made upgradable in case of life cycle extension. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayewing Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2008 Posted November 3, 2015 It might be interesting for Leica to shift to a four-year cycle for M cameras - who knows. It would hit Photokina each time and the system is pretty mature anyway. Although the current M240 was announced over three years ago It has only been available from stock since summer 2013 when I bought mine. As the M240 is a pretty mature product I am in no hurry to change it for a newer model which at considerable cost would probably provide relatively modest improvements on the existing model. I did upgrade from the M9 after only 2 1/2 years but on that occasion the improvements in LCD, shutter, ISO and of course the great expansion in versatility due to Live View and EVF made it well worth it. I doubt if the next iteration will show anything like a similar advance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2009 Posted November 3, 2015 The EVF has reached its maturation limit though. It should be made upgradable in case of life cycle extension. Unfortunately nothing in the electronics world is upgradeable for the long term. Even an externally mounted hotshot has mount design restrictions. Just see want happened to the Apple accessories market before Apple introduced the lightning jack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mornnb Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2010 Posted November 3, 2015 The EVF has reached its maturation limit though. It should be made upgradable in case of life cycle extension. It is not quite so easy to seperate the EVF and the camera. The M240 lacks the CPU performance to support more modern higher resolution EVFs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2011 Posted November 3, 2015 The EVF has reached its maturation limit though. It should be made upgradable in case of life cycle extension.Sure. It hit the wall in 2014. But it is just an auxiliary system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2012 Posted November 3, 2015 The VF-4 is compatible with most Olympus PEN digital cameras with a firmware upgrade folks. Leica can do the same if they wish so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2013 Posted November 3, 2015 If the M would have the Olympus processor and an 4/3 sensor, yes they could, but that would be quite a bit of surgery on the M240. The limitation is in the hardware, not in the software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2014 Posted November 3, 2015 Not sure if we can agree here. If Leica is planning to shift to a 4 year cycle, they'd better render the EVF upgradable, failing which it will be outdated too soon. The fact that it is an accessory EVF is not an excuse for obsolescence at this price level IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2015 Posted November 3, 2015 Well, we will have to wait for the next generation, I fear. Leica tried to get the EVF4 working, but could not do it, so I don't see why it should work now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2016 Posted November 3, 2015 The V-F4 was just an example of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2017 Posted November 3, 2015 I think the EVF on an M is of secondary importance. The SL will be imo the primary target for EVF shooters. As an RF, the M 240 is as good as it gets. I'm not particularly in a hurry to have it updated. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2018 Posted November 3, 2015 M users will have a faster EVF next year hopefully. Not everybody can afford both an M240 and an SL610 unfortunately. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2019 Posted November 3, 2015 M users will have a faster EVF next year hopefully. Not everybody can afford both an M240 and an SL610 unfortunately. I have no doubt the EVF of next M will be as good as the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted November 3, 2015 Share #2020 Posted November 3, 2015 A root canal done by the expertly hands of Jaap must be a work of art and a much better long term investment than the SL A hard-core fisherman here asked his dentist to incorporate a fishing line cutter in his front teeth and flat surface crowns on upper and lower first molars to crush weights. "Ya won't do it?" he said? "After what the crowns will cost anyway?" He sounded like a Leica whiner Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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