eckart Posted June 4, 2015 Share #141 Posted June 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Ok, but from the leaked picture which is very close to the drawing on the Meister side btw, there seems to be a built in one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 4, 2015 Posted June 4, 2015 Hi eckart, Take a look here Leica Q -general-. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
satijntje Posted June 4, 2015 Share #142 Posted June 4, 2015 No, the EVF from the T has 2,4 million dots, so this is much higher. ok, I knew it was different, so indeed one more argument that Leica is not going to look to sell their expensive Visio! ----- but it will be included in the Q price of course :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted June 4, 2015 Share #143 Posted June 4, 2015 Looks odd: it seems to have to rings, out of which the one close to the camera has a some labels - for focusing. There are grips close to the lens mount that suggest that aperture is set there. What's the third ring (all the way to the front) for? Cannot be aperture as there are no labels. The picture certainly suggests a built in viewfinder that can be seen at the top right - looks like the rubber on an M rangefinder. strap lugs with no protective piece of plastic above it - that's the first time Leica does this lens looks like it will extend - yuck we'll in a couple of days The ring to the front could be to switch from AF to MF, or to switch to close focusing (aka RX1) I think you are right, if that rubber ring is a Vf that's great news. The lens definitely doesn't look like it extends. Actually it looks really solidly built, like the 28mm Summicron To give my 2 cents on vs the RX1R. We don't expect Leica to be cheaper. We expect something quirky or different with brilliant IQ. Technically it could have better AF then the RX1 (not difficult) but I doubt it's specs on paper will be better. So it will be down to the old Leica handling feel and photo look. The market for this niche can easily beat 30%-40% more then the RX1. More is pushing it. The other issue is the mythical RX2 which could complicate things again. However don't expect a bargain from Sony, it's never been their plan before and also they are in a position of power and glory in the camera market these days. The main problem withy Sony is the don't have a fab forum like this to chew the fat on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sblitz Posted June 4, 2015 Share #144 Posted June 4, 2015 stevelap -- the interchangable lens version is the M240. This is the fixed-mount version. Perhaps a zoom in the next incarnation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timde Posted June 4, 2015 Share #145 Posted June 4, 2015 To give my 2 cents on vs the RX1R. We don't expect Leica to be cheaper. We expect something quirky or different with brilliant IQ. Technically it could have better AF then the RX1 (not difficult) but I doubt it's specs on paper will be better. So it will be down to the old Leica handling feel and photo look. The market for this niche can easily beat 30%-40% more then the RX1. More is pushing it. The other issue is the mythical RX2 which could complicate things again. However don't expect a bargain from Sony, it's never been their plan before and also they are in a position of power and glory in the camera market these days. The main problem withy Sony is the don't have a fab forum like this to chew the fat on. To my eyes, Leica have produced a real Camera, and not an electronic toy. I would guess that the rear side has no buttons, just the touch screen from the T. In this day and age that is indeed Quirky and Different ... and its also an opportunity to sell lots and lots of cameras if they price it where people can reasonably afford it. The RX1 is history, it was/is a great camera but it was never "fully there". And now there is competition, the next RX (if it arrives) will be great and cost closer to 2k than 3k. We could expect that Olympus and Panasonic will join the FF Compact market too, and perhaps Ricoh and too. But right now, or in a week, it seems like there is only one game in town. If Leica nails it they will own the space, but if its too far from reality in price ... people will just buy a Batis 25mm for their A7. Leica priced the T reasonably, so it could be that they really do plan to sell in volume with these new "old" cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Rawcs Posted June 4, 2015 Share #146 Posted June 4, 2015 The rear ring seems to bear the text 'Macro', I was hoping it was the aperture ring. I'm looking forward to the announcement of this camera, especially if it has a built-in EVF. A 50mm version would be nice. Mike. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel Posted June 4, 2015 Share #147 Posted June 4, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) The RX1 is history, it was/is a great camera but it was never "fully there". And now there is competition, the next RX (if it arrives) will be great and cost closer to 2k than 3k. . I love these fanboy posts The RX1 is not only fully there it's one of the best cameras ever made It is is quirky, brave, extremely well made and ferociously good IQ It's current price is a bargain and it's hardly history. It'll have a second life longer then the 5D I am looking at the Q in interest but I will judge it on its own merits Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cirke Posted June 4, 2015 Share #148 Posted June 4, 2015 Well, at least it is better than an MP 70 years Korean Independence model. for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hexx Posted June 4, 2015 Share #149 Posted June 4, 2015 Not quite sure I like it, more photos of it available - http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new-leaked-images-of-the-new-leica-q-ff-camera-5468 shutter speed 1/2000 and can't see bulb there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 4, 2015 Share #150 Posted June 4, 2015 Are we quite sure this is a fixed lens camera? The reason I ask is that if the lens is fixed, the aperture is unlikely to be on the lens barrel (see Leica T). Furthermore, in this image - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=385144825026940&id=348116495396440, what is the white dot on the barrel, matched by a white dot on the camera body? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndreasAM Posted June 4, 2015 Share #151 Posted June 4, 2015 Are we quite sure this is a fixed lens camera? The reason I ask is that if the lens is fixed, the aperture is unlikely to be on the lens barrel (see Leica T). Furthermore, in this image - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=385144825026940&id=348116495396440, what is the white dot on the barrel, matched by a white dot on the camera body? The lens has some features from the X-vario; -AF/MF setting and -macro setting (ring closest to the body, with the white dot) -Aperture ring (with an "A" setting. Surely a fixed lens, but could stand As a model for future T and Q2 lenses! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2015 Share #152 Posted June 4, 2015 Mirrorlessrumors dot com is chosen again to bring the news. It is logical to aim the new Q model at the buyers, who want their first "real" LEICA. Also in order to test, if the market goes for "Quality" without a classical rangefinder. This being for a price, which is below the present M level. "Q" with a 50mm as a second version? As the Sigmas, but without their bugs? Why not. As long as the buyers accept an Autofocus, which will not be up to date, due to the full format and the longer focal length. That could be an acceptable compromise so far, regarding the sales of the mirrorless Fuji lenses of 35mm (equivallent 50mm on Full Format) and longer. And of the DSLR Canon lens 1.2/85, which is slow on even the most modern camera bodies, but nevertheless very successful in sales over the decades. But the slow and quirky Autofocus was what killed the Sony RX-1, besides that it had been a stepping-stone to the A7. So a 28-50mm with less apperture - as in the MATE 4.0/28-35-50 or the X-Vario could be more likely to follow. This Q camera is very interesting news for LEICA's future imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 4, 2015 Share #153 Posted June 4, 2015 Are we quite sure this is a fixed lens camera? The reason I ask is that if the lens is fixed, the aperture is unlikely to be on the lens barrel (see Leica T). Furthermore, in this image - https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=385144825026940&id=348116495396440, what is the white dot on the barrel, matched by a white dot on the camera body? It's a marketing ploy for the next 6 days (7 in NZ?). Or a hint for things to come: will the ageing Leica customers want AUTOFOCUS accepting the modern electronical viewinder and buying new lenses, non-existent on the second-hand market? The excellent news for the time being: this built-in lens is not another one of those dreaded focus-by-wire. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted June 4, 2015 Share #154 Posted June 4, 2015 Just noticed what appears to be a couple still captures of the Q (not official Leica sourced) on MR that clearly shows an internal EVF eyepiece, the back, and top of the camera. It does not look PS'd and it appears to be a somewaht more compact M style body but shorter. If true/real, then Leica seems to have pulled a possible winner and 'future' camera out of it's hat. It's still to soon to tell whether the depth is the same as the M, but the lens has 'AF' on the barrel so it certainly can raise questons as to whether (if ever) they come out with an interchangeable Q would it use only AF lenses or be leagacy capable? Rumors are fading, and for the first time in quite a few years, Leica may have my attention again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiepphotog Posted June 4, 2015 Share #155 Posted June 4, 2015 It's a marketing ploy for the next 6 days (7 in NZ?). Or a hint for things to come: will the ageing Leica customers want AUTOFOCUS accepting the modern electronical viewinder and buying new lenses, non-existent on the second-hand market? The excellent news for the time being: this built-in lens is not another one of those dreaded focus-by-wire. The T and possibly this Q are more for the future generation. It's part of jumping the S-curve that Leica has to make. I think Leica is still gauging the market reaction to their transition to full EVF. The RF M will be forever at the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louis Posted June 4, 2015 Share #156 Posted June 4, 2015 More pictures: http://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/new-leaked-images-of-the-new-leica-q-ff-camera-5468 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted June 4, 2015 Share #157 Posted June 4, 2015 Leica should really not upload web pages early..... http://en.leica-camera.com/Photography/Leica-Q/Accessories Gordon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r7photo Posted June 5, 2015 Share #158 Posted June 5, 2015 Guess it is real, Leica web master is in trouble lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manoleica Posted June 5, 2015 Share #159 Posted June 5, 2015 We hate it" We love it" they will sell it as a high end accessory --- pay up & shut up.. It's a Leica.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted June 5, 2015 Share #160 Posted June 5, 2015 From what we've seen, I'd say it's going to be pretty good ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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