genefama Posted May 31, 2014 Share #101 Posted May 31, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) If I were Leica I wouldn't use a member of this forum member to test products. Our forum tends to be Leica fans (or even apologists) who are reluctant to criticize the products or demand the state-of the art from them. I know because I'm one of them. I mean, whenever anyone mentions that the Auto ISO setting should actually be an auto-ISO setting, half the forum responds by saying "why would you want auto ISO?" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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farnz Posted May 31, 2014 Share #102 Posted May 31, 2014 Judging everyone by your own standards might draw you into the misconception that everyone's like you, which of course isn't the case. Some Leica beta-testers happen to be members of this forum as well as objective, clear-thinking, adept photographers, some of whom are professional photographers as well. (For disclosure, I'm not a beta-tester myself.) Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intermediatic Posted May 31, 2014 Share #103 Posted May 31, 2014 I for one, have been scolded by the site admin for being too negative about Leica due to comments I have made during the auto-ISO fiasco. This isn't just a place for fan boys, although there are some in evidence, for sure, That said, it am not the beta tester and even if I were, one beta tester, no matter who they were, doesn't seem like enough to me. Wasn't it established that the auto-ISO fiasco was due to a couple of squeaky wheels who believed their way was the only way? Fair enough. I can't understand their point of view and they can't understand mine, but it should be up to Leica to understand that their is a range of possible valid uses out there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted June 1, 2014 Share #104 Posted June 1, 2014 It's a pity I wasn't given the Leica M240 to test for a few days. Most likely I wouldn't have bought one. The dilemma for me NOW is should I keep it ??????? perhaps after the new firmware, it might convince me to keep it. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 1, 2014 Share #105 Posted June 1, 2014 In the M9 leica gave us the choice to push or not push a button while changing EC. In the M Leica took this choice from us and forces us to push a button. Every one I know doesn't like that and prefers not to push a button. In the M9 Leica gave us auto iso in manual mode, in the M it took it away. To be honest I couldn't care less because I never use auto iso other than in A mode. But this was a feature very important for many street photographers and it would have been easy to keep it as an option in the menu. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 1, 2014 Share #106 Posted June 1, 2014 perhaps after the new firmware, it might convince me to keep it. If you aren't happy with the M now...new FW won't change your opinion. The M is a fine camera as-is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 1, 2014 Share #107 Posted June 1, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Never got lockups personally but those are good reasons to be angry and to expect a serious fix from Leica IMHO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted June 1, 2014 Share #108 Posted June 1, 2014 If you aren't happy with the M now...new FW won't change your opinion. The M is a fine camera as-is. Thank you for the advice. Yes, the M is a fine and lovely to look at. Ken. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted June 2, 2014 Share #109 Posted June 2, 2014 Ok, Leica. It is now June 2nd. So where's the firmware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted June 2, 2014 Share #110 Posted June 2, 2014 Ok, Leica. It is now June 2nd. So where's the firmware? Chill, this is leica land and if we get something by the end of June we'll be all be very lucky. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 2, 2014 Share #111 Posted June 2, 2014 Chill, this is leica land and if we get something by the end of June we'll be all be very lucky. Which year are you referring to? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted June 2, 2014 Share #112 Posted June 2, 2014 Ok, Leica. It is now June 2nd. So where's the firmware? The firmware will be released when it is ready. Leica never promised a specific release date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted June 2, 2014 Share #113 Posted June 2, 2014 The firmware will be released when it is ready. Leica never promised a specific release date. That may be right but the pace is disgracefully slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted June 2, 2014 Share #114 Posted June 2, 2014 I won't complain, and will patiently wait for the firmware to be released. The only thing I can say, if the firmware comes with AutoISO "correction" only, I'll stop following this forum for a while and go out and take some shots. It makes no sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted June 2, 2014 Share #115 Posted June 2, 2014 The firmware will be released when it is ready. Leica never promised a specific release date. Fair point. Do we have any headsup about the included fixes? The ones mentioned at Leica rumors site must be correct I presume. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helohe Posted June 2, 2014 Share #116 Posted June 2, 2014 how can one apply to become a beta tester? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 2, 2014 Share #117 Posted June 2, 2014 One cannot. Welcome to the forum Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGodParticle/Hari Posted June 2, 2014 Share #118 Posted June 2, 2014 That may be right but the pace is disgracefully slow. For us old M9 users, there is no hope of any new firmware releases to combat the stuck shutter issue ... Only fix is to roll back to the older firmware version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 2, 2014 Share #119 Posted June 2, 2014 ...if the firmware comes with AutoISO "correction" only, I'll stop following this forum for a while and go out and take some shots... Depends on what you mean by auto iso correction. The lock-up syndrom will be fixed hopefully but auto iso in manual mode is a new feature that is not granted i'm afraid. I would rather expect a fixed minimum shutter speed in auto mode but i may be completely wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirekti Posted June 2, 2014 Share #120 Posted June 2, 2014 I would rather expect a fixed minimum shutter speed in auto mode but i may be completely wrong. Regarding the fixed minimum shutter speed I believe there should changes as well. 1/focal length doesn't work so well on digital. I'd rather see option like 1/2 x focal length or 1/1.5 x focal length. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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