algrove Posted April 21, 2014 Share #21 Posted April 21, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) rscheffler I feel the same as you. It is just s shame with Japanese made cameras one can shoot continuous for ever without incident. Sone days I must 3 bracket with the M and that has also caused problems, but less so than just a single shot here and there. I had mine lock up after not using it for many hours on a single shot in the old Solms showroom with a Leica guy beside me. Had to remove battery to continue. What he said is not worth repeating here. Totyal BS. Random lockups for what ever reason are lockups and disturb the image creating experience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 21, 2014 Posted April 21, 2014 Hi algrove, Take a look here Anyone figure out why the 240 freezes up?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Vip Posted April 22, 2014 Share #22 Posted April 22, 2014 Mine freeze with the old firmware when I remove the lens without switching off the camera first as suggested in the instruction book . I had to remove battery and switch on again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dante Posted April 23, 2014 Share #23 Posted April 23, 2014 I am getting a weird lockup with the SF 58 and gold-label Sandisk 45mb/sec cards. You get a right arrow and a dot, you can play back, but you can't shoot. Seems to be triggered by the flash ready signal. I am going to check the formatting - but this seems really weird. Dante Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 23, 2014 Share #24 Posted April 23, 2014 Had my first lockup today. Version 2.0.0.12 firmware. No EVF, no MFG. I had taken 5 shots over the previous five minutes. Power switch set to S. Live view off; auto-review off. Outside temperature ~18 C. Manual 200 ISO. Auto shutter speed. 16 GB Sandisk, 95 MB/s card; habitually formatted in camera. 85% battery available. I pressed the shutter, not the full shutter sound, red light came on and stayed on. Power switch unresponsive. Took battery out, everything ok. I realize that neither this, nor any previous reports of the problem is enough for the diagnosticians to get their teeth into, but perhaps it's time to issue a debugging version of the firmware for volunteers to record a trace on the memory card. And before you start, I'm aware that never in the history of the world has an M locked up while being controlled by a proper photographer. This doesn't mean it can't be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 23, 2014 Share #25 Posted April 23, 2014 Had my first lockup today. Version 2.0.0.12 firmware. No EVF, no MFG. I had taken 5 shots over the previous five minutes. Power switch set to S. Live view off; auto-review off. Outside temperature ~18 C. Manual 200 ISO. Auto shutter speed. 16 GB Sandisk, 95 MB/s card; habitually formatted in camera. 85% battery available.I pressed the shutter, not the full shutter sound, red light came on and stayed on. Power switch unresponsive. Took battery out, everything ok. I realize that neither this, nor any previous reports of the problem is enough for the diagnosticians to get their teeth into, but perhaps it's time to issue a debugging version of the firmware for volunteers to record a trace on the memory card. And before you start, I'm aware that never in the history of the world has an M locked up while being controlled by a proper photographer. This doesn't mean it can't be fixed. Was the camera in sleep mode or totally off? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted April 23, 2014 Share #26 Posted April 23, 2014 Good question. Looking at the times of the previous pic and the first after putting the battery back - 10:09:44 10:12:23, and my auto power off is 2 min - it could have been on the point of sleeping. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 23, 2014 Share #27 Posted April 23, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just about everyone will get a lock up at some point until Leica know how to fix the problem. At present they do not admit to us that the problem exists. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest odeon Posted April 23, 2014 Share #28 Posted April 23, 2014 True, i encounter this problem. My camera is freezing around 1% shoot. It can be related with the weather. I'm living in Izmir. The Mediterranean Sun is always with us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rscheffler Posted May 5, 2014 Share #29 Posted May 5, 2014 Had a lockup today... EVF was mounted and I was trying to toggle it on or off, don't exactly remember. In any case, none of the buttons were responsive, though the camera would shoot... and I did a couple quick shots... but couldn't playback... turned off the camera, waited a few seconds, then turned it back on. The camera worked again, but was set to the last 'remembered' settings, I guess from when I first turned it on earlier in the day (I have it set to never sleep), but the last few images shot at the time of lockup were gone... So far I can't remember any lockup problems shooting DNG only without the EVF... it's when I use the EVF that problems crop up... or so it seems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2014 Share #30 Posted May 5, 2014 Just about everyone will get a lock up at some point until Leica know how to fix the problem. At present they do not admit to us that the problem exists. They admitted a problem related to temperature if memory serves but fact is some people like yours truly have never got the least lock up so far. Perhaps they don't use much LV and live in temperate countries... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roey Posted May 5, 2014 Share #31 Posted May 5, 2014 They admitted a problem related to temperature if memory serves but fact is some people like yours truly have never got the least lock up so far. Perhaps they don't use much LV and live in temperate countries... This has nothing to do with LV, EVF or temperature -- at least no in my case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 5, 2014 Share #32 Posted May 5, 2014 There are many explanations as you know but the one retained by Leica was temperature if i remember well and many users were in LV/EVF mode when their lock up occurred actually. BTW repeating single shots (2 or 3fps) have never done any harm to my M240, in classic mode that is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woorob Posted May 10, 2014 Share #33 Posted May 10, 2014 It certainly appears that the "lock up" issue is more prevalent in warm and perhaps humid climates but it is definitely NOT limited to warm environments. Before the firmware update I encountered three lock-ups -- all at 50F or below, and all with the EVF (and auto-off disabled). None since the firmware upgrade. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted May 10, 2014 Share #34 Posted May 10, 2014 There are many explanations as you know but the one retained by Leica was temperature if i remember well and many users were in LV/EVF mode when their lock up occurred actually. BTW repeating single shots (2 or 3fps) have never done any harm to my M240, in classic mode that is. If you could please point me in the right direction, I would very much like to see any acknowledgement by Leica as to the cause of lockups. Personally, I have never sen one that I recall. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 10, 2014 Share #35 Posted May 10, 2014 Hi Lou, was during the beta testing of firmware 2.0.0.11 i believe. I'll try to retrieve what Leica said for you if this was not covered by the NDA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted May 10, 2014 Share #36 Posted May 10, 2014 Ah yes just retrieved it as reported by Rick here: This is a known problem. This repeatedly happened to me for the month of September while beta testing. It was reported to Leica by several of us then. Leica acknowledged, "there were discussions about the EVF switching off after a shot. This we take of course very serious, and we now found out that this is related to a temperature depending mode, that is being activated above 40°C." In recent conversations with Leica I was told, the EVF problem in hot environment will be solved with the next Firmware-update and I also told Leica about the dim shutter problem." It was not placed in the last beta because, Leica only became aware of it through discussions by some of the beta testers in the very last weeks of the beta testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted May 11, 2014 Share #37 Posted May 11, 2014 Just about everyone will get a lock up at some point until Leica know how to fix the problem.At present they do not admit to us that the problem exists. I have had mine for a week, already had two lock up's, Just F#@&(*^ ...brilliant. German electronics at it's best. Talk to my Leica dealer tomorrow about it's future. Ken. PS..I CAN ONLY WISH. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/225501-anyone-figure-out-why-the-240-freezes-up/?do=findComment&comment=2587700'>More sharing options...
Bill W Posted May 13, 2014 Share #38 Posted May 13, 2014 I have a black and a chrome M but so far have not had a freeze with either. Both have been subjected to some heat and humidity where I live. They both have the most current update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jto555 Posted May 13, 2014 Share #39 Posted May 13, 2014 I shot a concert at the weekend, and I also shot the rehersals, so I was on site for 5 1/2 hours. The EVF was on the camera the whole time and I was shooting manual, DNG, small jpeg with 2.0.0.12 firmware, also the camera was on auto shutoff. Ambiant tempture was about 22C. The SD card was a Sandisk Extreme Pro 64GB. In that time I got about 5 or 6 lockups where I had to pull the battery to get the camera working again. I have found that without the EVF I get much less lockups. It is easy to work-around but why should we have to 'work-around' this issue? John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tookaphotoof Posted May 13, 2014 Share #40 Posted May 13, 2014 Just over 3.000 shots at the moment. Haven't had a single lockup, yet. Hardly ever use the evf. Missed a few shots because of the auto off, so I'm considering to turn it off. Two batteries should be enough to cover me all day anyways. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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