pieterpronk Posted April 24, 2014 Share #361 Posted April 24, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Is there any hint on when auto iso is coming? May 24th says Leica rumors. Actually, it doesn't mention a fix for auto-iso in that firmware update. So we might even get a firmware update which doesn't implement the most asked for fix by customers. That's Leica for you... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Luke_Miller Posted April 25, 2014 Share #362 Posted April 25, 2014 I notice that Nick Rains in his first impressions report on the Leica T discusses its Auto-ISO implementation. "Works as it should" in manual. Says you can set minimum and maximum shutter speeds in the Auto ISO menu (presumably applies when in "A" mode). That sounds a bit like the description of Auto ISO changes in the May 24 scheduled M240 firmware release. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterpronk Posted April 25, 2014 Share #363 Posted April 25, 2014 I notice that Nick Rains in his first impressions report on the Leica T discusses its Auto-ISO implementation. "Works as it should" in manual. Says you can set minimum and maximum shutter speeds in the Auto ISO menu (presumably applies when in "A" mode). That sounds a bit like the description of Auto ISO changes in the May 24 scheduled M240 firmware release. Yup, still broken... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke_Miller Posted April 25, 2014 Share #364 Posted April 25, 2014 Yup, still broken... I took it as an encouraging sign Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted April 26, 2014 Share #365 Posted April 26, 2014 Well now that the gnomes in Wetzlar seem to have shown that they are capable of doing software as in the new T lets hope the start putting back some energy into sorting there so called flagship camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted April 26, 2014 Share #366 Posted April 26, 2014 Leica has a poor track record of finishing off development before moving on to the Next Best Thing. The M9 was abandoned once the M Typ 240 came out and even assuming the people who wrote the T software know anything about the M, they will be too busy fixing their own bugs once all the hype dies down and the camera is revealed as a can of worms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe exon Posted April 26, 2014 Share #367 Posted April 26, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) My M240 is my first Leica and replaced a Nikon D700, this was used frequently with manual shutter speed and aperture but auto iso, making it a very usable bit of kit nearly all the time. i actually regret buying the Leica and if they don't sort this issue with the next FU its up for sale without doubt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pieterpronk Posted April 26, 2014 Share #368 Posted April 26, 2014 You know the weird thing about it is that I get this feeling all this is just because one of the CEO's or some high up guy personally prefers the way the M handles auto iso in manual shutter time mode now. And somehow because this one person prefers it, they ignore most customers who consider it broken. This stubborn and arrogant "it's not a bug" mentality is quite disgusting. And I'm not even talking about white balance and color issues. Imo these things still very much need a fix. Auto white balance in anything other than daylight is almost always off the mark... And skin colors are still way to magenta, though at this point I'm starting to believe this cannot be fixed because it's an hardware issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted April 26, 2014 Share #369 Posted April 26, 2014 I think the more simple explanation is that they don't care- and/or can't be bothered. Until I see otherwise it is my sad conclusion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted June 17, 2014 Share #370 Posted June 17, 2014 I think the more simple explanation is that they don't care- and/or can't be bothered. Until I see otherwise it is my sad conclusion. Yes, after numerous forum member emails to Leica, and 19 pages of this thread, I guess Leica does not care. Since most of us have 15-20k invested in Leica's flagship model, a camera that spurs folks into buying Leica's point and shoot cameras so that they too can have a "red dot", I think it is rather insulting that Leica does not support the people in their big bucks division. Amazing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalfx Posted June 18, 2014 Share #371 Posted June 18, 2014 Im pretty pleased with my M240...worth every penny I spent as-is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #372 Posted June 18, 2014 And skin colors are still way to magenta, though at this point I'm starting to believe this cannot be fixed because it's an hardware issue.[/QUOTe]More likely an user skill issue: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/312555-m-color-3.html#post2579554 http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-m-type-240/312555-m-color-3.html#post2579552 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #373 Posted June 18, 2014 I think the more simple explanation is that they don't care- and/or can't be bothered. Until I see otherwise it is my sad conclusion. I Iguess we are finding out which forum members are not beta testers here..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted June 18, 2014 Share #374 Posted June 18, 2014 sure- I am no Beta tester- and of course- I do believe the firmware is actually coming eventually. However even so it is too late. Should have been here months ago. And when it does come: my bet is is doesn't address half the issues I would like to see addressed. I do live to be proved wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 18, 2014 Share #375 Posted June 18, 2014 Why being that negative? Auto iso in manual mode is not implemented in the current M240 firmware because Leica did not intend to do so. Leica never said that auto iso is or should be compatible with manual shutter speeds in any way. It is a new feature that can be implemented in a forthcoming firmware hopefully but it is in no way a duty of Leica and those who don't like that are nor forced to buy the body in my humble opinion (end of rant sorry). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #376 Posted June 18, 2014 sure- I am no Beta tester- and of course- I do believe the firmware is actually coming eventually. However even so it is too late. Should have been here months ago. And when it does come: my bet is is doesn't address half the issues I would like to see addressed. I do live to be proved wrong.That one letter rather says it all, doesn't it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted June 18, 2014 Share #377 Posted June 18, 2014 Jaap: of course I have my own firmware want list... and obviously if my wants are not met: I will be disappointed... if it bothers you that I have needs you don't think are relevant or justified to you- ignore me ;-) and Ict: I know no-one forced me to buy anything- and I am not unhappy that I did buy it. I would probably do it again. However that does not preclude me from having a negative opinion of Leica's 'support' for their products once they are on the market based on my own experiences. This relates to the M8, M9, and M- all of which I have owned- not just about the Auto ISO issue on the M. I would perhaps be less vocal if Leica had not lead me to believe that they would always seek to improve their cameras with the latest enhancements that firmware updates could offer- making it a 'camera for life'. I also think simply accepting whatever Leica does or does not do in an accepting, passive 'Panglossian' manner- is not helpful to Leica in the long term. Personally I do not think we live in the best possible world... I think there is room for improvement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 18, 2014 Share #378 Posted June 18, 2014 Well, one improvement would be to start to believe the posts from Admin. As long as you are not aware of the contents and scope of the update it seems rather premature to express any kind of sentiment, Which would you prefer - an update that has most of (there is no bugfree software in my experience) of the bugs betatested and corrected, or something that we have to keep complaining about here? Leica never gave a deadline, just be content that it is coming and is being looked at seriously in the meantime. Speed is not a virtue here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drdannn Posted June 18, 2014 Share #379 Posted June 18, 2014 It is a new feature that can be implemented in a forthcoming firmware (end of rant sorry). Hello, It is not a "new feature" it was implemented on the m8, m8.2, m9, m9p. All I want is the same and was quite surprised when it was not there. I often shoot at night on streets or indoors where there is rapidly changing intensity of light, and where I need a fast enough shutter speed to stop action. That is where "auto iso" in MANUAL mode is essential and facilitates ease of use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 18, 2014 Share #380 Posted June 18, 2014 Yes i know but it is a new feature for the M240 in that auto iso in manual mode was not (and is still not) implemented in the camera firmware. Auto iso does exist already but it does not work when manual shutter speeds are chosen. I never missed it personally but i agree that it is a handy feature that i've been using a lot recently and i do hope that Leica can implement it soon or late in the M240 or the next M camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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