AZach Posted March 8, 2017 Share #9401 Posted March 8, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Not English, nor Indian. It is rare, because in fact a prototype, so maximilianm3 is getting closer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rona!d Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9402 Posted March 9, 2017 Hello, back in my old thread and very funny to see the old 1994 Porsche C88 prototype made as a "gift" by Porsche for China. You can google the background story including Wedekings funny presentation speech in Mandarin in Bejing. Several later Chinese design studies of truck factories for a "peoples car" look pretty similar. Anybody surprised? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9403 Posted March 9, 2017 Am I correct in thinking that the prototypes Porsche have made for other makers, have not been a roaring success? Was it Seat that they made a prototype for, pre take over by VW and another one for Lada? I had forgotten about the C33 with its one child seat, as of course, the Chinese are only allowed one child. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZach Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9404 Posted March 9, 2017 Hello, it is the 1994 Porsche C88. Even if 88 is the lucky number in China, there was no success as you mention. Your turn, Ronald. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9405 Posted March 9, 2017 Thanks, Arto. Will screen my archive for the next one. Wilson, they made several prototypes for others, but not all of them ever went public like the C88. With complete cars they might have failed, but design and technology details went into series production. I stumbled over a lot of design studies and ideas during the last 20 years (like the cardan-shaft drive in Yamaha motorcycles etc.). They badly needed "other" income in the 90s and even today you can "order" if you pay well enough. Was much cheaper in the 90s though ;-) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9406 Posted March 9, 2017 Thanks, Arto. Will screen my archive for the next one. Wilson, they made several prototypes for others, but not all of them ever went public like the C88. With complete cars they might have failed, but design and technology details went into series production. I stumbled over a lot of design studies and ideas during the last 20 years (like the cardan-shaft in Yamaha motorcycles etc.). They badly needed "other" income in the 90s and even today you can "order" if you pay well enough. Was much cheaper in the 90s though ;-) Pity it took Porsche 18 months to restock the gearbox synchro hub wearing parts for my 1977 911RSR. I was not too impressed, given that these only have a life of only around 12,000 km and all period RSR owners still using the homologated 915 gearbox, need them regularly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9407 Posted March 9, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) side note: Mercedes also took part in that "peoples car design competition" of the Chinese Gov. and their vehicle (the Mercedes FCC = Family Car China) looked 95% like the years later introduced Mercedes A class. That was three years before the A-class! Chinese Gov. said "thank you" to all participating western car makers and never declared a "winner", so no money had to be paid and no order for series cars had to be placed. Wilson: When was that? Have you checked possible 3rd party distributors or gearbox specialists who had them in stock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9408 Posted March 9, 2017 side note: Wilson: When was that? Have you checked possible 3rd party distributors or gearbox specialists who had them in stock? Ronald, The problem arose because I made the error of being persuaded by local Porsche main dealer, that they were going to make a big splash on working on classic and older competition Porsches. My experiences with them servicing my modern 996 and then 997 Turbo S cars had been excellent. The additional advantage was that they would provide a warranty on the work, which is unusual on a competition car. The downside is that they would only fit official Porsche parts. Porsche told them that the standard synchro hubs had been improved and were now suitable for use on an RSR spec 915 box, so they fitted those. The gearbox lasted barely 20 road miles before the new 2nd gear hub failed catastrophically, causing a lot of damage. It then took another 14 months to get all the parts to complete a proper repair, finally getting the car back in February of this year. Now the classic Porsche mechanic has left the main dealer anyway and moved to another garage, so they have given up classic work. The good news is that the garage he moved to, a classic and competition Porsche specialist, is just 6km away from my UK house, so very convenient. When I was originally having the car rebuilt to Group 2 rally spec from the race car I found in a California scrap yard in 2009, we found it had a welded shut sun roof. I had that re-opened again for additional ventilation when doing rallies in Europe in midsummer but it had never really worked well, often sticking part way open or worse, part way closed, when the rain came on. The new Porsche garage (Precision Porsche) has now got it working perfectly by fitting modified new 964 operating cables and cleaning up the tracks. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3230401'>More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9409 Posted March 9, 2017 Synchros? You don't need synchros, they're just another unnecessary part added to modern cars that are designed to fail and supply a revenue stream for the dealer! Although when I drove my employers' Rolls I did find the lack of them made downshifting rather difficult. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9410 Posted March 9, 2017 Synchros? You don't need synchros, they're just another unnecessary part added to modern cars that are designed to fail and supply a revenue stream for the dealer! Although when I drove my employers' Rolls I did find the lack of them made downshifting rather difficult. Mike, Porsche racing gearboxes have always used synchro. I think they might have felt it made for fewer missed shifts and "buzzed"engines: See the cartoon below by the wonderful Russell Brockbank. I actually don't mind "crash" gearboxes but the best ones are the dog clutch non-synchro but constant mesh type gearbox, like many folks are now fitting in vintage and post vintage cars. The Alfa Romeo 8C2600 I sometimes get to drive, has had a non-synchro dog box fitted and it has transformed the pleasure of driving the car. Before that 2nd and 3rd gear-lever positions, were in separate post codes. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3230427'>More sharing options...
mikemgb Posted March 9, 2017 Share #9411 Posted March 9, 2017 I will confess to having buzzed an engine once or twice......... 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9412 Posted March 11, 2017 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hope you don't mind me butting in with one car I used to own. This car was in the US, a place it never would have been allowed but it slipped through the cracks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Hope you don't mind me butting in with one car I used to own. This car was in the US, a place it never would have been allowed but it slipped through the cracks. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3231370'>More sharing options...
AZach Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9413 Posted March 11, 2017 ...a beetle (Käfer) can do so many things... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9414 Posted March 11, 2017 I think the name of the car will be easy. The year of the car will be far more difficult. Also what is special about this car will be a challenge. It was a barn find in the 1970s. The photo is from the mid 1970s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9415 Posted March 11, 2017 ...a beetle (Käfer) can do so many things... Yes you are correct. Now what is the year of manufacture? Also what is the type of the model? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9416 Posted March 11, 2017 A Kubelwagen? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Furst Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9417 Posted March 11, 2017 A Kubelwagen? Correct manufacturer and steering wheel but "no cigar". Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9418 Posted March 11, 2017 It´s a pre-twin model "Brezel", so before 1952/53 because of the single side window of the door. It´s a Standard model because of the three stroke steering wheel. It´s NOT a prewar prototype/preserial model because the strokes were thicker in those. I´d say it´s between 1947 and 1950, maybe even 1951. Not sure if one could identify the year more accurate from the details you´ve showed. You said "special". Well, thought about a CCG Beetle, but not an early one (pre- 1947) because I miss the engraved "VW"-logo in the dash (which the pre-war/war cars, very early postwar cars had). The odo shows mp/h, not km/h, because there is a "40" at 6 o´clock, not a "60" like the km/h-odos show. So could this also be a very early non-German beetle, maybe Ireland (Dublin) where they´ve built it since 1950 or South Africa (Uintenhage since 1951). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9419 Posted March 11, 2017 As a follow up for the last riddle here´s my new car. (we should run that parallel to your Beetle, ok?) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3231742'>More sharing options...
maximilianm3 Posted March 11, 2017 Share #9420 Posted March 11, 2017 Hm that radio doesn't look original to me... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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