adan Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16561 Posted December 6, 2021 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Not Autocar. Not Diamond T/REO. US military, yes (but not in combat roles). "Late 1920s, 1930s" - correct, for this specific example. (Hint #2 - while this was obviously not a race vehicle, it did participate in other types of "performance competitions" to promote sales. And the company namesake did also support and create race cars as a sideline, especially for a very specific and unique auto race, driven by patriarchs of a racing family still active today.) Edited December 6, 2021 by adan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16562 Posted December 6, 2021 Could it be a White Truck (maybe a 700 model). Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16563 Posted December 6, 2021 With trucks I´m out. Only American LaFrance came to my mind but those mainly built firetrucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16564 Posted December 6, 2021 Not White. Not American LaFrance. However the very first sale of the mystery truck was to the town fire department (modified with the necessary pumping and riding gear). It was able to pump water 80 feet vertically, manuever in 2 feet of snow, and climb a 50% (26.5°) grade fully loaded. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16565 Posted December 6, 2021 The design reminds me of the trucks from Four Wheel Drive Auto Company, also known as FWD. But it seems to be a Coleman which were also 4WD. My assumption „Not for long distances“ should be correct. Most Colemans were made for towing and ploughing on shorter distances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16566 Posted December 6, 2021 There’s also the Nash truck from WW1 (IIRC used for ammunition transporting) which was 4WD. Is the colour original ? I’m thinking yellow vehicles could be for airfields? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted December 6, 2021 Share #16567 Posted December 6, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 hours ago, adan said: ...It was able to pump water 80 feet vertically, manuever in 2 feet of snow, and climb a 50% (26.5°) grade fully loaded... I did wonder, looking at the various clearances (at front including chain-mounted cab-step and, rearwards, the comparative lack-of similar 'space') whether it was primarily designed to be able to perform as a snow-plough or 'path-clearer'? Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16568 Posted December 7, 2021 1929, 138 h.p., double ingnition 6cyl. Buda engine. Used for road service in New Hampshire. As said, specialized in tow and plough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
david strachan Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16569 Posted December 7, 2021 I want one to go shopping. It's a beauty. ... 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16570 Posted December 7, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Rona!d said: But it seems to be a Coleman which were also 4WD. That is correct. Ronald's turn. A 1929 Coleman 5-ton 4WD, from a design created and built by Harleigh Holmes (1880-1963), based on a 4WD system he thought up while working as an irrigation engineer in the Colorado mountains near Aspen. Holmes originally expected to sell his trucks to mountain mines and lumber camps. Photographed in 2009, the first month I had an M9, in Vermont (right next door to New Hampshire) at an antique farm-equipment and auto rally. The funny thing is that while I photographed it in Vermont (near my birthplace) - it was built in Littleton, CO, about 15 miles of my current home in Denver. Which I did not know until I researched its history for these posts. https://www.littletongov.org/my-littleton/littleton-history/other-topics/harleigh-holmes-coleman-motors Holmes sold his Holmes Motor Co. to miners and ranchers Alfred and George Coleman in 1922. Holmes continued as engineer and demonstration driver for the company. The racing connection is that George Coleman became interested in racing cars just before 1930, at first specifically for the race to the top of 14000-ft Pike's Peak (The Pike's Peak Hill Climb) about 50 miles south of Littleton. The first Coleman racing model featured front-wheel drive. Later models in 1931/32 were built for the Indianapolis 500 - the 1932 race car had 4WD. None were very successful - they had immense HP (the 2nd and 3rd had two engines) and tended to break their drive-trains before or during the races they entered. Coleman's first drivers for the Pike's Peak race attempt were three brothers of Swiss descent from Colorado Springs - named Louis, Jerry and Joe Unser. Whose descendents form a dynasty of race drivers still active today (Al Unser III, son of Al Unser Jr., grandson of Al Unser, and great-grandson of Jerry Unser Sr.) The racing family also includes Jerry Jr,, Johnny, Bobby, Bobby Jr, and others. https://unserracingmuseum.com/racing-family-history/ Military uses - various. Some had small cranes on the back, others did operate as airfield utility vehicles. The Army's first purchase was used to haul an AA cannon to a test range. Civilian uses - as mentioned previously, the first one sold was a fire truck conversion for the city of Littleton. But they were, as Ronald says, very popular as snow ploughs, and also mountain rescue vehicles - any job that required load-hauling ability over rough, sticky, slippery or steep terrain. While still under development in 1921, a prototype climbed into the foothills west of Littleton to rescue people trapped by a blizzard. Edited December 7, 2021 by adan 3 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16571 Posted December 7, 2021 Adan, thanks for sharing this most interesting piece of 4WD history and background information about the company and the people behind it. From 4WD trucks to Pikes Peak and Indy 500 racing. And all started with the Pikes Peak gold rush in 1859. Nobody can top this! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16572 Posted December 7, 2021 OK gents, here another "4WD truck". As usual, maker and model please. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4327851'>More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16573 Posted December 7, 2021 Uaz, with a Michelin X M+S tyre. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16574 Posted December 7, 2021 I wondered if it might be a Steyr Puch Haflinger 999? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16575 Posted December 7, 2021 Not an UAZ but with a military painting. Not a Steyr Puch Haflinger. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16576 Posted December 7, 2021 Could it be the 4WD version of the Opel Blitz (1960-65). Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 7, 2021 Share #16577 Posted December 7, 2021 vor 2 Stunden schrieb wlaidlaw: Could it be the 4WD version of the Opel Blitz (1960-65). Wilson Not an Opel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted December 8, 2021 Share #16578 Posted December 8, 2021 European? French? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 8, 2021 Share #16579 Posted December 8, 2021 vor 47 Minuten schrieb a.j.z: European? French? Yes! No! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted December 8, 2021 Share #16580 Posted December 8, 2021 Hint: You could order it as 2WD and 4WD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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