Popular Post jonoslack Posted 5 hours ago Popular Post Share #1 Posted 5 hours ago Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica Q3 Monochrom - A Jonathan Slack Review The Q system was a big risk for Leica. When they introduced the original Q in 2015, it was a time when most other manufacturers were abandoning ‘compact’ cameras. Fortunately for Leica it proved to be a phenomenal success, both critically, and in terms of sales. The original Q was succeeded by the Q2 four years later in March 2019 with a Monochrom version appearing 18 afterwards in November 2020. Of course there have also been a number of special editions over the years. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Loutro Leica Q3M 1/400 f8 ISO 200 Four years after the Q2 launch the Q3 was released in May 2023, with a number of significant upgrades (more about that later). Having spent a lot of time saying that 28mm was the perfect focal length for such a camera, Leica finally cracked in September 2024 and bought out the Q3 43 with a wonderful new 43 mm lens (reflecting as closely as possible the focal length of the human eye). I have fallen head over heels in love with the Q3 43 and bought one for myself shortly after the launch. Brewing. Up a Cretan storm Leica Q3M 1/12000 f5 ISO 200 Changes from the Q2M New 60mp BSI Back Illuminated CMOS Sensor (similar to M11 Monochrom) USB-C and Mini HDMI connectors Tilting LCD Improved Bluetooth and WiFi Small, Medium and full sized DNG and/or JPG files 60,3, 36.5, 18.6 mp Reliable Geotagging in conjunction with Leica Fotos Rear Button Layout change Long exposures possible (with any combination of ISO and shutter speed) Long Exposure NR can be disabled. One additional function button (arguably!) USB-C Charging Optional Grip enabling WiFi charging Better resolution EVF 5,760,000 dots magnification 0.79 Better resolution Display 3" 1,843,200 dot Digital Zoom now has 28, 35, 50, 75 and 90mm framelines Leica Looks Brewing. Up a Suffolk storm Leica Q3M 1/6400 f5 ISO 200 I went into a lot of detail on these changes in my article on the Q3 when it first came out, I would refer you back to this, but in retrospect I’m a great deal more ‘onboard’ with what Leica are doing than I was then. In my defence, when I wrote about the Q3 I had not seen the SL3, and the incorporation of a tilting rear LCD and the shift of the buttons to the right of the display have been mirrored in the SL3. The Imbros Gorge Leica Q3M 1/200 f6.ISO 200 The SL3 demonstrates a much more advanced interface where all the functions in the quick screen can be customised, more than that they can be saved to individual user profiles. At first I was sad that this excellent new interface was not reflected in the Q3, but in fact the Q3M does have the same interface as the SL3. In the near future there will be a new firmware update for all the Q3 family (version 4) which will make it completely in line with the SL3 family (more about that later - but not in this article). Emma Leica Q3M 1/60 f3.5 ISO 1000 Fogou Leica Q3M 1/25 f1.7 ISO 12500 The Body The body is lovely - Leica have removed the red dot and all the writing on the camera is either grey or white., it certainly looks handsome. The tilting LCD has been very nicely implemented, so that if you pull out the LCD it immediately switches on and off again when you push it back. There is a new port on the left hand side of the camera (looking from the rear) housing a USB-C port and a mini HDMI port. This allows the camera to be charged via USB-C as well as fast access to your computer (via Mass Storage) or to Leica Fotos on your device. The Leica Q3M Leica SL3 28-70 Vario Elmarit Strap by Rock n Roll Straps - Century M @ 70mm 1/200 f8 ISO 100 The Rear button layout has been changed from the Q2 and Q2 M in the same way as it has for the Leica SL3, so that the 3 buttons on the left hand side of the body have been reduced to 2 buttons (just play and menu) and moved to the right hand side of the screen. There is a new function button at the top of the back plate which makes up for the lost one, and this has the added advantage of being able to be configured any way you want. Q3 (left Q2 (right) The Sensor The new sensor is fundamentally the same as the one in the M11 Monochrom and similar to those in the Q3 and the SL3 (but without the Bayer Filter.) The only downside of the new sensor is that it has a slower readout time than the one on the Q2, This will result in more of a ‘rolling shutter’ effect when using the electronic viewfinder, it also results in a slightly longer blackout time between shots when you fire quickly. For most people this will. be something they don't even notice, but for someone who shoots bursts of photos it might be an issue Leicas are not the only toys Leica Q3M 1/1600 f1.7 .ISO 200 The SL3 and the Q3 have Phase Detect points on the sensor which improves the auto-focus over the previous models. Generally speaking contrast detect is more accurate, but phase detect AF is directional, which makes it faster. On sensor PDAF Pixels do not have colour filters (even on colour sensors) but they are partly covered so that they only receive light from one direction. Cameras with a colour sensor use a Bayer filter and then a demosaicing algorithm which interpolates information to get colour. This demosaicing function can also interpolate data so that the PDAF pixels do not show up. Celtic Cross Leica Q3M 1/90 f3.5 .ISO 200 A monochrome sensor does not have a Bayer filter, and does not do any interpolation or demosaicing: each pixel on the sensor is directly represented on the image. The result of this is that if there were PDAF points on the monochrome sensor you would be able to see them (or the pattern they made) in the final image. Of course the Monochrom cameras do have a defect pixel map and you might think that you could simply add the PDAF points to this, but there is a problem with the amount of memory allocated to defect pixels (not so many) whereas there is a relatively much larger number of PDAF points). Celtic Mist Leica Q3M 1/160 f1.7 .ISO 200 Of course, like everything, this could be done - but it would require new algorithms and possibly hardware changes which would be time consuming and therefore expensive. More to the point, in many situations the Q3 relies more on contrast detect, which is more accurate, so, despite concentrating very hard I didn’t find any slowdown in the AF on the Q3M vs my Q3 43. New Algorithms Leica Q3M 1/125 f1.7 .ISO 200 Image Quality With a colour camera and it’s Bayer filter groups of 4 pixels are demosaiced and interpolated creating 4 colour pixels. So, theoretically you might think that a Monochrom sensor without a Bayer filter, and where each pixel is represented by itself would have 4 times the resolution. This isn’t actually the case, because the colour demosaicing algorithm really is very good these days, but still the actual resolution on the Q3M (and the M11 M) is a noticeable step up from the colour versions of the same sensor Heading for the Sea Leica Q3M 1/320 f5.6 .ISO 200 With Monochrome sensors, despite an even more extended dynamic range, you can’t recover highlight information so easily, so it’s important to make sure you don’t over-expose. This is because when recovering ‘blown' highlights in a colour image you can utilise colour information in different channels. But with a monochrome sensor there is only luminance. Heading for the Beach Leica Q3M 1/200 f9 .ISO 200 Low Light Quality When I was testing the Q2 M in 2020 I was very impressed with the high ISO performance, later on, when the Q3 came out I did more tests. Sadly I no longer have the Q2 Monochrom or the Q3 (inexcusably Leica want their cameras back! ). But I do have the test images, which were mostly taken in our dark living room in poor light (which shows up the worst problems). So I took the same pictures with the Q3M (some of the books had been moved, but clearly not enough of them!). I was actually really surprised by just how much better the high ISO is compared to the standard Q3 - it feels like nearly 2 stops. ISO 100 ISO 3,200 ISO 12,500 ISO 50,000 I think what really says it all is this shot at 200,000 ISO, - there is no visible banding, the grain looks natural and good, and even at 100% there is bags of detail. Of course you could also use modern tools to get rid of the grain if you wanted to. In practical terms this is perhaps even more awe inspiring - the image at 100 ISO and f4 was a 1 second exposure, whereas the one at 200,000 ISO, is 1/2000 of a second at f4, this is a dark room, and still one has huge headway in terms of shutter speed or exposure. The Serpentine Bookcase Leica Q3M 1/2000 f4 .ISO 200,000 100% crop of above image Leica Q3M 1/2000 f4 .ISO 200,000 The Spectral Response I dealt with this in some detail in my review of the M11 Monochrom. I also dug out Emma’s RGB Buckets (and yellow) to have a look with the Q3M. It seems to me that the response is pretty much the same as the M11M with a rather bright blue. I checked this with Leica and they said that whilst the sensor is the same, the image pipeline is different, so they couldn’t guarantee there wouldn't be some slight difference. Of course you can change this in the traditional way with filters to suit your requirements. Content Credentials Leica has partnered with the Content Authenticity Initiative and the Q3 M is the first of the Q cameras to have this standard integrated into the camera. This is hardware related, so it can’t be added later with a firmware upgrade. The Leica M11-P was the first camera to have Content Credentials, which adds a digital signature to each image. Baby Parasol Leica Q3M 1/640 f5 .ISO 200 The Content Authenticity Initiative (CAI) is an association founded in November 2019 by Adobe, the New York Times, Twitter and others with the intention of curbing disinformation. The idea is to promote an industry standard for provenance metadata for files defined by the C2PA and for promotion of the standard. Concentration Leica Q3M 1/4000 f1.7 .ISO 200 Anthropomorphism Leica Q3M 1/6400 f1.7 .ISO 200 The C2Pa is the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity, co-founded by Adobe with arm, the BBC, Intel and Microsoft and many more, as you can see, big guns are involved in this! Whilst the C2PA is tasked with the formulation of an open, royalty-free technical standard for metadata, the CAI sees it's task in the dissemination. I wrote about this at some length in my M11-P article. A Nest of Stones Leica Q3M 1/6400 f5.6 .ISO 200 Conclusion With the exception of PDAF auto-focusing the Q3M has all the advantages of the Q3 over the Q2, and in actual shooting this really doesn’t seem to be an issue - autofocusing is fast and accurate. This may be in part because Leica have been working hard using AI to maximise the AF potential of the Q3. The Q3M is the first Q camera to use the new version 4 firmware, and this has a host of new and improved features which will also come to the Q3 and Q3 43 in the near future (I’ll talk more about them then). Pednvounder looking North East Leica Q3M 1/6400 f8 .ISO 200 But there is something else here - the image quality really does seem to have undergone a bit of a leap; being able to shoot at any aperture with a decent shutter speed in nearly dark rooms has crept up on us slowly, but now it does seem to be a good option with the Q3 MONO (the 1/2000 at 200,000 ISO shot still blows my mind!). It’s something that must populate film photographers dreams. Of course it isn’t for everyone (like all the Monochrom cameras). But if you only want black and white, then the Q3 MONO is a really classy option. The possibility to crop digitally and still get a great file (even down to 90mm) makes it an incredibly versatile solution to almost any photographic situation. More than that the image files are just a pleasure to process. Pednvounder looking South West Leica Q3M 1/320 f8 .ISO 200 Acknowledgements and Links Special thanks to the guys at Leica who help so much with this, particularly Stefan Daniel and Peter Kruschewski, Extra special thanks to Matthias Petzke at Leica, who has really gone beyond the call of duty in helping me over the the technical aspects of this article. If you want to look at any of the previous articles about Q cameras or Monochroms, then they are all available on my website. My old friend Sean Reid has been a little delayed, but he will be publishing a series of articles about the Q3 Monochrom, Q3, M11 Monochrom and Fujifilm GFD100RF. Wetzlar Swerve Leica Q3M 1/60 f5.6 ISO 200 Safety Leica Q3M 1/160 f5.6 ISO 200 The Lane to Starve Lark Meadow Leica Q3M 1/160 f5 ISO 200 28mm The Lane to Starve Lark Meadow Leica Q3M 1/120 f5 ISO 200 35mm digital crop The Lane to Starve Lark Meadow Leica Q3M 1/100 f5 ISO 200 50mm digital crop The Lane to Starve Lark Meadow Leica Q3M 1/100 f5 ISO 200 75mm digital crop The Lane to Starve Lark Meadow Leica Q3M 1/100 f5 ISO 200 90mm digital crop 15 12 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Loutro Leica Q3M 1/400 f8 ISO 200 Four years after the Q2 launch the Q3 was released in May 2023, with a number of significant upgrades (more about that later). Having spent a lot of time saying that 28mm was the perfect focal length for such a camera, Leica finally cracked in September 2024 and bought out the Q3 43 with a wonderful new 43 mm lens (reflecting as closely as possible the focal length of the human eye). I have fallen head over heels in love with the Q3 43 and bought one for myself shortly after the launch. Brewing. Up a Cretan storm Leica Q3M 1/12000 f5 ISO 200 Changes from the Q2M New 60mp BSI Back Illuminated CMOS Sensor (similar to M11 Monochrom) USB-C and Mini HDMI connectors Tilting LCD Improved Bluetooth and WiFi Small, Medium and full sized DNG and/or JPG files 60,3, 36.5, 18.6 mp Reliable Geotagging in conjunction with Leica Fotos Rear Button Layout change Long exposures possible (with any combination of ISO and shutter speed) Long Exposure NR can be disabled. One additional function button (arguably!) USB-C Charging Optional Grip enabling WiFi charging Better resolution EVF 5,760,000 dots magnification 0.79 Better resolution Display 3" 1,843,200 dot Digital Zoom now has 28, 35, 50, 75 and 90mm framelines Leica Looks Brewing. Up a Suffolk storm Leica Q3M 1/6400 f5 ISO 200 I went into a lot of detail on these changes in my article on the Q3 when it first came out, I would refer you back to this, but in retrospect I’m a great deal more ‘onboard’ with what Leica are doing than I was then. In my defence, when I wrote about the Q3 I had not seen the SL3, and the incorporation of a tilting rear LCD and the shift of the buttons to the right of the display have been mirrored in the SL3. The Imbros Gorge Leica Q3M 1/200 f6.ISO 200 The SL3 demonstrates a much more advanced interface where all the functions in the quick screen can be customised, more than that they can be saved to individual user profiles. At first I was sad that this excellent new interface was not reflected in the Q3, but in fact the Q3M does have the same interface as the SL3. In the near future there will be a new firmware update for all the Q3 family (version 4) which will make it completely in line with the SL3 family (more about that later - but not in this article). Emma Leica Q3M 1/60 f3.5 ISO 1000 Fogou Leica Q3M 1/25 f1.7 ISO 12500 The Body The body is lovely - Leica have removed the red dot and all the writing on the camera is either grey or white., it certainly looks handsome. The tilting LCD has been very nicely implemented, so that if you pull out the LCD it immediately switches on and off again when you push it back. There is a new port on the left hand side of the camera (looking from the rear) housing a USB-C port and a mini HDMI port. This allows the camera to be charged via USB-C as well as fast access to your computer (via Mass Storage) or to Leica Fotos on your device. The Leica Q3M Leica SL3 28-70 Vario Elmarit Strap by Rock n Roll Straps - Century M @ 70mm 1/200 f8 ISO 100 The Rear button layout has been changed from the Q2 and Q2 M in the same way as it has for the Leica SL3, so that the 3 buttons on the left hand side of the body have been reduced to 2 buttons (just play and menu) and moved to the right hand side of the screen. There is a new function button at the top of the back plate which makes up for the lost one, and this has the added advantage of being able to be configured any way you want. Q3 (left Q2 (right) The Sensor The new sensor is fundamentally the same as the one in the M11 Monochrom and similar to those in the Q3 and the SL3 (but without the Bayer Filter.) The only downside of the new sensor is that it has a slower readout time than the one on the Q2, This will result in more of a ‘rolling shutter’ effect when using the electronic viewfinder, it also results in a slightly longer blackout time between shots when you fire quickly. For most people this will. be something they don't even notice, but for someone who shoots bursts of photos it might be an issue Leicas are not the only toys Leica Q3M 1/1600 f1.7 .ISO 200 The SL3 and the Q3 have Phase Detect points on the sensor which improves the auto-focus over the previous models. Generally speaking contrast detect is more accurate, but phase detect AF is directional, which makes it faster. On sensor PDAF Pixels do not have colour filters (even on colour sensors) but they are partly covered so that they only receive light from one direction. Cameras with a colour sensor use a Bayer filter and then a demosaicing algorithm which interpolates information to get colour. This demosaicing function can also interpolate data so that the PDAF pixels do not show up. Celtic Cross Leica Q3M 1/90 f3.5 .ISO 200 A monochrome sensor does not have a Bayer filter, and does not do any interpolation or demosaicing: each pixel on the sensor is directly represented on the image. The result of this is that if there were PDAF points on the monochrome sensor you would be able to see them (or the pattern they made) in the final image. Of course the Monochrom cameras do have a defect pixel map and you might think that you could simply add the PDAF points to this, but there is a problem with the amount of memory allocated to defect pixels (not so many) whereas there is a relatively much larger number of PDAF points). Celtic Mist Leica Q3M 1/160 f1.7 .ISO 200 Of course, like everything, this could be done - but it would require new algorithms and possibly hardware changes which would be time consuming and therefore expensive. More to the point, in many situations the Q3 relies more on contrast detect, which is more accurate, so, despite concentrating very hard I didn’t find any slowdown in the AF on the Q3M vs my Q3 43. New Algorithms Leica Q3M 1/125 f1.7 .ISO 200 Image Quality With a colour camera and it’s Bayer filter groups of 4 pixels are demosaiced and interpolated creating 4 colour pixels. So, theoretically you might think that a Monochrom sensor without a Bayer filter, and where each pixel is represented by itself would have 4 times the resolution. This isn’t actually the case, because the colour demosaicing algorithm really is very good these days, but still the actual resolution on the Q3M (and the M11 M) is a noticeable step up from the colour versions of the same sensor Heading for the Sea Leica Q3M 1/320 f5.6 .ISO 200 With Monochrome sensors, despite an even more extended dynamic range, you can’t recover highlight information so easily, so it’s important to make sure you don’t over-expose. This is because when recovering ‘blown' highlights in a colour image you can utilise colour information in different channels. But with a monochrome sensor there is only luminance. Heading for the Beach Leica Q3M 1/200 f9 .ISO 200 Low Light Quality When I was testing the Q2 M in 2020 I was very impressed with the high ISO performance, later on, when the Q3 came out I did more tests. Sadly I no longer have the Q2 Monochrom or the Q3 (inexcusably Leica want their cameras back! ). But I do have the test images, which were mostly taken in our dark living room in poor light (which shows up the worst problems). So I took the same pictures with the Q3M (some of the books had been moved, but clearly not enough of them!). I was actually really surprised by just how much better the high ISO is compared to the standard Q3 - it feels like nearly 2 stops. ISO 100 ISO 3,200 ISO 12,500 ISO 50,000 I think what really says it all is this shot at 200,000 ISO, - there is no visible banding, the grain looks natural and good, and even at 100% there is bags of detail. Of course you could also use modern tools to get rid of the grain if you wanted to. In practical terms this is perhaps even more awe inspiring - the image at 100 ISO and f4 was a 1 second exposure, whereas the one at 200,000 ISO, is 1/2000 of a second at f4, this is a dark room, and still one has huge headway in terms of shutter speed or exposure. The Serpentine Bookcase Leica Q3M 1/2000 f4 .ISO 200,000 100% crop of above image Leica Q3M 1/2000 f4 .ISO 200,000 The Spectral Response I dealt with this in some detail in my review of the M11 Monochrom. I also dug out Emma’s RGB Buckets (and yellow) to have a look with the Q3M. It seems to me that the response is pretty much the same as the M11M with a rather bright blue. I checked this with Leica and they said that whilst the sensor is the same, the image pipeline is different, so they couldn’t guarantee there wouldn't be some slight difference. Of course you can change this in the traditional way with filters to suit your requirements. Content Credentials Leica has partnered with the Content Authenticity Initiative and the Q3 M is the first of the Q cameras to have this standard integrated into the camera. This is hardware related, so it can’t be added later with a firmware upgrade. The Leica M11-P was the first camera to have Content Credentials, which adds a digital signature to each image. Baby Parasol Leica Q3M 1/640 f5 .ISO 200 The Content Authenticity Initiative (CAI) is an association founded in November 2019 by Adobe, the New York Times, Twitter and others with the intention of curbing disinformation. The idea is to promote an industry standard for provenance metadata for files defined by the C2PA and for promotion of the standard. Concentration Leica Q3M 1/4000 f1.7 .ISO 200 Anthropomorphism Leica Q3M 1/6400 f1.7 .ISO 200 The C2Pa is the Coalition for Content Provenance and Authenticity, co-founded by Adobe with arm, the BBC, Intel and Microsoft and many more, as you can see, big guns are involved in this! Whilst the C2PA is tasked with the formulation of an open, royalty-free technical standard for metadata, the CAI sees it's task in the dissemination. I wrote about this at some length in my M11-P article. A Nest of Stones Leica Q3M 1/6400 f5.6 .ISO 200 Conclusion With the exception of PDAF auto-focusing the Q3M has all the advantages of the Q3 over the Q2, and in actual shooting this really doesn’t seem to be an issue - autofocusing is fast and accurate. This may be in part because Leica have been working hard using AI to maximise the AF potential of the Q3. The Q3M is the first Q camera to use the new version 4 firmware, and this has a host of new and improved features which will also come to the Q3 and Q3 43 in the near future (I’ll talk more about them then). Pednvounder looking North East Leica Q3M 1/6400 f8 .ISO 200 But there is something else here - the image quality really does seem to have undergone a bit of a leap; being able to shoot at any aperture with a decent shutter speed in nearly dark rooms has crept up on us slowly, but now it does seem to be a good option with the Q3 MONO (the 1/2000 at 200,000 ISO shot still blows my mind!). It’s something that must populate film photographers dreams. Of course it isn’t for everyone (like all the Monochrom cameras). But if you only want black and white, then the Q3 MONO is a really classy option. The possibility to crop digitally and still get a great file (even down to 90mm) makes it an incredibly versatile solution to almost any photographic situation. More than that the image files are just a pleasure to process. Pednvounder looking South West Leica Q3M 1/320 f8 .ISO 200 Acknowledgements and Links Special thanks to the guys at Leica who help so much with this, particularly Stefan Daniel and Peter Kruschewski, Extra special thanks to Matthias Petzke at Leica, who has really gone beyond the call of duty in helping me over the the technical aspects of this article. If you want to look at any of the previous articles about Q cameras or Monochroms, then they are all available on my website. My old friend Sean Reid has been a little delayed, but he will be publishing a series of articles about the Q3 Monochrom, Q3, M11 Monochrom and Fujifilm GFD100RF. 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LocalHero1953 Posted 5 hours ago Share #2 Posted 5 hours ago Thank you, Jono, as always, for your clear, practical review - and great images! I have occasionally missed the wider view of the Q2 since switching to the Q3-43 (I'd have preferred a Q3-35); guessing that a Q3-M was on its way, I have fantasised about a wide Q3-M to go alongside the Q3-43 in the same bag. I'll keep fantasising for the moment! Looking forward to the v4 firmware though - I like the SL3-S menu screens customisable by profile, and it will be good to have the same on the Q. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted 5 hours ago Share #3 Posted 5 hours ago Thanks Jono. Well no PDAF has saved me a load of money as I will now happily stay with my Q2M 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted 4 hours ago Share #4 Posted 4 hours ago Great review as always, Jono! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiggiGun Posted 4 hours ago Share #5 Posted 4 hours ago Good read, thanks Jono Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 4 hours ago Share #6 Posted 4 hours ago Thank you for keeping all informed! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted 4 hours ago Share #7 Posted 4 hours ago Advertisement (gone after registration) Nice review. Thanks for that. I recently bought a demo q2m for a great price, so I will not upgrade. But for those who do, enjoy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
student Posted 4 hours ago Share #8 Posted 4 hours ago (edited) Thank you for keeping all informed! And lovely images Edited 3 hours ago by student Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmschuh Posted 3 hours ago Share #9 Posted 3 hours ago vor einer Stunde schrieb jonoslack: Optional Grip enabling WiFi charging Nice idea, but given the amount of energy that WiFi provides, it would probably take years for the battery to fully charge. This is more likely to be the charging method according to the Qi standard. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markey Posted 3 hours ago Share #10 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said: Thank you, Jono, as always, for your clear, practical review - and great images! I have occasionally missed the wider view of the Q2 since switching to the Q3-43 (I'd have preferred a Q3-35); guessing that a Q3-M was on its way, I have fantasised about a wide Q3-M to go alongside the Q3-43 in the same bag. I'll keep fantasising for the moment! Looking forward to the v4 firmware though - I like the SL3-S menu screens customisable by profile, and it will be good to have the same on the Q. You are not the only one .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted 3 hours ago Author Share #11 Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, LocalHero1953 said: , I have fantasised about a wide Q3-M to go alongside the Q3-43 in the same bag. I'll keep fantasising for the moment! Hi there even wider than 28mm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted 3 hours ago Share #12 Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Hi Jono. How is eye detect in continuous AF. Obviously will be nothing like my Sony A1ii but did you find it usable. Does it track the eyes at all if the subject is moving something which my Q2M can't Edited 3 hours ago by viramati Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted 3 hours ago Share #13 Posted 3 hours ago (edited) I had the original Q, an excellent camera, at the time it was a bold camera for Leica to offer, for me it was a "B" camera workhorse, liked it a lot and only sold it when Leica came out with the Q2-M which I bought and still have seeing no reason for any upgrade...And seeing too that I never use anything beyond 50mm with my M's I have been more than happy with the 28mm FL, plus I know that I personally would find the Q3-43 has too long a FL for me to be stuck with. The Q2-M's resolution has proven to be more than enough for me, easily printing to A1 even with a lot of cropping now and again, ( I love cropping! ). Dead chuffed with that camera. But Kudos again to Leica for bringing out another Monochrom, I have the M11-M and second to my analogue cameras, ( and TriX / Rodinal ! ) that Monochrom produces images that really please me even though to get what I want I keep at 18mp and probably degrade the image somewhat too to get what I like out of the files, presumably the similar flexibility of the files that would also be the same for the Q3- Monochrom too. Leica has really got the Q's right from the get go, nice one Leica. Edited 3 hours ago by Smudgerer 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonoslack Posted 3 hours ago Author Share #14 Posted 3 hours ago 33 minutes ago, viramati said: Hi Jono. How is eye detect in continuous AF. Obviously will be nothing like my Sony A1ii but did you find it usable. Does it track the eyes at all if the subject is moving something which my Q2M can't Hi there i don’t often use AFC and I only tried it with animal detect (which seemed pretty good). I’ll try and remember to check it out (send me a pm if I forget! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted 2 hours ago Share #15 Posted 2 hours ago Thank you for your informative review. It's very nice and pleasant to read. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted 2 hours ago Share #16 Posted 2 hours ago (edited) 1 hour ago, jonoslack said: Hi there even wider than 28mm? I meant: I won't buy but will keep fantasising, as a substitute (story of my life)! Wider? 24mm would be nice - then I could treat the two Q3s as an alternative to the SL3-S + 24-90 Edited 2 hours ago by LocalHero1953 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyPolson Posted 2 hours ago Share #17 Posted 2 hours ago 16 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: I meant: I won't buy but will keep fantasising, as a substitute (story of my life)! Wider? 24mm would be nice - then I could treat the two Q3s as an alternative to the SL3-S + 24-90 I would really have liked to see three focal lengths, 21mm, 35mm and something longer. I don’t specify how much longer as I would be happy with 21mm and 35mm. The 43mm is of no interest to me and never will be. It seems a bizarre choice of focal length, one that has no history with Leica. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Maclean Posted 1 hour ago Share #18 Posted 1 hour ago 28 minutes ago, TonyPolson said: I would really have liked to see three focal lengths, 21mm, 35mm and something longer. I don’t specify how much longer as I would be happy with 21mm and 35mm. The 43mm is of no interest to me and never will be. It seems a bizarre choice of focal length, one that has no history with Leica. no history other than the fact that the very first Leica M lens was.....43. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smudgerer Posted 1 hour ago Share #19 Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, S Maclean said: no history other than the fact that the very first Leica M lens was.....43. No, for my usage 28mm is the way to go, way more flexible than the Q3-43, but Leica are keeping that 28mm FL with the new Q3-M, so all to love as far as I am concerned. Another reason though not to upgrade for me is the flip screen, don't like them........A dream Q would be an all black as coal Q3-D Monochrom with the 28mm 'Lux, now yer talking.......... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted 36 minutes ago Share #20 Posted 36 minutes ago Jono mentions firmware update 4.0, but did not list the changes, as the firmware has not been released yet. If you are as impatient as I am 🤣, you can download Q3M instructions and see the changes. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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