SrMi Posted September 27 Share #2641 Posted September 27 Advertisement (gone after registration) 8 hours ago, jaapv said: If I were Leica I would test the waters with a 15.000 $ limited edition before going to standard production. "Do or do not, there is no try." - Yoda Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 27 Posted September 27 Hi SrMi, Take a look here EVF M rumoured. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
hexx Posted September 27 Share #2642 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, SrMi said: The rumored price is 7950€ in Europe. I believe that would be less expensive than an M11-P. Interesting. That would be the same as M11, at least when I convert it to GBP. Do you have a link to where this was shared or is it something you’ve heard somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 27 Share #2643 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, costa43 said: €7950 is where I would guess too. A bit less than the 2025 price for the M11-P. Let’s hope it’s a little more than just an SL3 EVF lumped into an M body. Let’s hope that it will be all that the proponents expect and that it will sell outside this small group. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNK100 Posted September 27 Share #2644 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, hexx said: Interesting. That would be the same as M11, at least when I convert it to GBP. Do you have a link to where this was shared or is it something you’ve heard somewhere? That price would make it just under £7k which is about ten percent lower than the M11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted September 27 Share #2645 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, hexx said: Interesting. That would be the same as M11, at least when I convert it to GBP. Do you have a link to where this was shared or is it something you’ve heard somewhere? It's a rumor or maybe a leak: https://www.mirrorlessrumors.com/ 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 27 Share #2646 Posted September 27 (edited) 2 hours ago, hexx said: Interesting. That would be the same as M11, at least when I convert it to GBP. Same as M11 imho can't work... unless you add something appreciable... IBIS... or a hybrid VF (not both, which would justify a significantly higher price and arise doubts on what will be M12...) Edited September 27 by luigi bertolotti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 27 Share #2647 Posted September 27 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 13 hours ago, jaapv said: Bad comparison. The M1 only had to give up the RF without any alterations but the rumored M wil have to add an EVF including integration in the camera. Yes... see my post 2618... was just an exercise to imagine some price positioning ... with M1 one had NO focus aid at all (apart resuscitating a gentle FOKOS 😄... still listed at M1 times...) Edited September 27 by luigi bertolotti 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted September 27 Share #2648 Posted September 27 Just a little patience. In less than a month, we'll find out what Leica engineers are capable of in 2025. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted September 27 Share #2649 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, Smogg said: Just a little patience. In less than a month, we'll find out what Leica engineers are capable of in 2025. Or not. 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 27 Share #2650 Posted September 27 5 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said: Same as M11 imho can't work... unless you add something appreciable... IBIS... or a hybrid VF (not both, which would justify a significantly higher price and arise doubts on what will be M12...) No, all it has to be is an M with an EVF. There's obviously so much disposable cash flying around with hobbyist camera users that they will sell enough to people who aspire to an M but who are then befuddled by the rangefinder. Expect the price of used M11's to go down as the trade-in's come in. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted September 27 Share #2651 Posted September 27 9 hours ago, SrMi said: The rumored price is 7950€ in Europe. I believe that would be less expensive than an M11-P. If this is the case then how do other manufacturers make so much cheaper EVF cameras I wonder? Leica attract a premium but ..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27 Share #2652 Posted September 27 (edited) 6 hours ago, luigi bertolotti said: Same as M11 imho can't work... unless you add something appreciable... IBIS... or a hybrid VF (not both, which would justify a significantly higher price and arise doubts on what will be M12...) I'd bet a Camembert against a Mascarpone that the M11-V won't have IBIS or a hybrid VF, but EIS and a Q3 EVF. IBIS and/or hybrid would be for the more expensive M12 but my cristal ball is not clear enough about that. You like cheese hopefully Edited September 27 by lct 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 27 Share #2653 Posted September 27 34 minutes ago, pgk said: If this is the case then how do other manufacturers make so much cheaper EVF cameras I wonder? Leica attract a premium but ..... There - I edited that for you. 😉 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 27 Share #2654 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said: No, all it has to be is an M with an EVF. There's obviously so much disposable cash flying around with hobbyist camera users that they will sell enough to people who aspire to an M but who are then befuddled by the rangefinder. Expect the price of used M11's to go down as the trade-in's come in. I strongly suspect that the EVF will be just as befuddling - To start with, you have to turn some ring on the lens... WHAT??? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted September 27 Share #2655 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, lct said: I'd bet a Camembert against a Mascarpone that the M11-V won't have IBIS or a hybrid VF, but EIS and a Q3 EVF. IBIS and/or hybrid would be for the more expensive M12 but my cristal ball is not clear enough about that. You like cheese hopefully M11 has EIS, useful only for making the video stream in EVF/LCD stable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted September 27 Share #2656 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, jaapv said: I strongly suspect that the EVF will be just as befuddling - To start with, you have to turn some ring on the lens... WHAT??? But the snaps taken with their new iPhone 17 Pro XL of the camera itself with a Noctilux on it and sitting next to their cigar humidor and Mont Blanc pen will be so impressive. 1 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted September 27 Share #2657 Posted September 27 1 hour ago, jaapv said: I strongly suspect that the EVF will be just as befuddling - To start with, you have to turn some ring on the lens... WHAT??? Catching-up (finally) with “Severance” on Apple TV+ Loving Mr Milchick moving around to record all the team photos on his lightly disguised M6 without ever adjusting the focus or aperture…🫨 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/deed.en ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/419143-evf-m-rumoured/?do=findComment&comment=5868446'>More sharing options...
FrozenInTime Posted September 27 Share #2658 Posted September 27 2 minutes ago, SrMi said: M11 has EIS, useful only for making the video stream in EVF/LCD stable. Which I know I miss when visoflex focusing a 90mm on the M10; I.e. will be a very useful feature even if the M-EVF does not get a stabilised sensor. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted September 27 Share #2659 Posted September 27 2 minutes ago, FrozenInTime said: Which I know I miss when visoflex focusing a 90mm on the M10; I.e. will be a very useful feature even if the M-EVF does not get a stabilised sensor. Yes, magnified focusing is much easier with EIS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 27 Share #2660 Posted September 27 27 minutes ago, SrMi said: M11 has EIS, useful only for making the video stream in EVF/LCD stable. Only that really? I can use my Sigma FTL at slower shutter speeds than my M11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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