3D-Kraft.com Posted January 21 Share #181 Posted January 21 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am 20.1.2025 um 13:35 schrieb zaphodtheprez: I have an M7 on its way to me right now, and I’m weighing my options what to do with it also. At least, the M7 uses standardized CR1/3N batteries and not custom rechargeable batteries with nasty authentication chips. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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patrickcolpron Posted January 30 Share #182 Posted January 30 (edited) Never mind Edited January 30 by patrickcolpron What's the point of it all..? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
_leicaguru Posted February 2 Share #183 Posted February 2 (edited) On 3/28/2024 at 12:00 AM, charlesphoto99 said: Oh, I'm not doubting that. But what about in twenty years time? Will it be, sorry all of our stock is dead or no longer produced? Hoping that's not the case, but good to at least consider the worst case scenario... several things can happen. Firstly, the batteries will last typically about 10-15 years of charging and discharging until they lose significant capacity (see the poster above that says his 15 year old M9 works but the batteries now are weak). When this happens, let's say my M10R in the year 2035. It'll be 13 years old then. Leica can choose to either refurbish batteries, or, since so many M10's have been sold and there aren't any alternatives, they might choose to re-release a battery like for example a BP-SCL6 battery that you can buy new. or it could be that by then, third party options will be available. If Leica decides to completely end support of all M10 cameras and any accessories then third party manufacturers will feel less afraid to make batteries for it without being sued and of course reverse engineer them to break the encryption. IMO, the most likely outcome is that third party manufacturers will have M10 batteries once Leica stops making batteries for it. I estimated that third party M10 batteries may start appearing between 2027-2030. either that or Leica will refurbish older M10 batteries if it doesn't make them anymore. Edited February 2 by _leicaguru Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted February 2 Share #184 Posted February 2 1 hour ago, _leicaguru said: to re-release a battery like for example a BP-SCL6 battery that you can buy new Well, it won't be called that... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batteries-availability-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5750440'>More sharing options...
rsh Posted March 3 Share #185 Posted March 3 I asked Zachary Wolf at Leica USA about BP SCL5 Batteries and what they are unavailable and this was his reply: “To my knowledge there is a production issue overseas which is being addressed as quickly as possible.” Fortunately, I have a few SCL5 batteries so I am in good shape for now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adriankeith Posted March 5 Share #186 Posted March 5 This battery supply issue (to the US, at least) goes back nearly a year from threads I’ve been reading. It’s pretty frustrating as a new M10 owner that it’s impossible to get just one backup battery. Say what you will about 3rd party batteries but at least they provided an alternative. I’ve used WP batteries in all my other cameras and have never had them fail like I’ve been reading about the BP-SCL5, a $200 battery. I sent Leica an e-mail earlier this week and they just replied to me this morning, saying the same thing I’ve been reading on other forums that there is a supplier side issue but, “We have taken steps to ensure continued availability.” Make of that what you will, but they are still not able to provide any dates for general availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 5 Share #187 Posted March 5 Advertisement (gone after registration) Well, given that the camera was introduced eight years ago and that there have been a few things happening in the world since then, it cannot come as a huge surprise that some items that cannot be stocked long-term and have to come halfway across the world occasionally suffer from supply hiccups. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsung Posted March 7 Share #188 Posted March 7 If Leica is unable to supply they should allow third party making these batteries simply a wrong business decision lead customers suffer 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted March 7 Share #189 Posted March 7 I think they are not unable to supply those batteries, shipping seems to be an issue… Some Leica stores in Germany do have them on stock, however no online availability. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Miranda Posted March 7 Share #190 Posted March 7 On 3/5/2025 at 9:03 AM, jaapv said: Well, given that the camera was introduced eight years ago and that there have been a few things happening in the world since then, it cannot come as a huge surprise that some items that cannot be stocked long-term and have to come halfway across the world occasionally suffer from supply hiccups. I get where you’re coming from, but that still doesn’t seem entirely fair. Leica was selling the M10-R which uses the BP-SCL5 battery until late January 2023 according to most major retailers. So, it’s not like this is an ancient product. It’s reasonable for people to expect continued support, especially when these cameras are such a big investment. I understand supply chain issues happen, but for a company with such a loyal customer base, it would be nice if Leica paid a bit more attention to these kinds of things, especially since it feels like they’re nudging people toward their newer models with a new battery. 6 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AceVentura1986 Posted March 9 Share #191 Posted March 9 On 3/7/2025 at 12:46 PM, Fred Miranda said: I get where you’re coming from, but that still doesn’t seem entirely fair. Leica was selling the M10-R which uses the BP-SCL5 battery until late January 2023 according to most major retailers. So, it’s not like this is an ancient product. It’s reasonable for people to expect continued support, especially when these cameras are such a big investment. I understand supply chain issues happen, but for a company with such a loyal customer base, it would be nice if Leica paid a bit more attention to these kinds of things, especially since it feels like they’re nudging people toward their newer models with a new battery. They should also provide an actual, factual explanation. This near silence broken only by occasional PR releases containing bland corporate speak is well below them. We should be treated better. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier Posted March 14 Share #192 Posted March 14 I keep reading about availability issues in various places (I have not tried to buy batteries for my M10-P, since I got it used a year ago and it came with three batteries, that all seem to work... still reading about these issues makes me uncomfortable of course) so this makes me wondering: at this pace, is Leica not going to be at fault with laws in one place or another quite soon ? Wherever there is a law on right to repair, being unable to provide spare batteries on an item that is less than 3 years old should not be safe in the legal point of view... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgh Posted March 18 Share #193 Posted March 18 On 3/9/2025 at 8:41 AM, AceVentura1986 said: They should also provide an actual, factual explanation. This near silence broken only by occasional PR releases containing bland corporate speak is well below them. We should be treated better. I agree, they should. I don’t think this is well below them though, this is about where they’ve always been in treating customers. The marketing/PR dept seemingly has this company squeezed by the nuts, which is just that much more shameful given the role they like to tout in the history of journalism. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted March 20 Share #194 Posted March 20 (edited) Not sure if Leica UK will ship overseas but the BP-SCL5 is now back in stock. Maybe an indication of supplies starting again. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 20 by T25UFO Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/391737-m10-batteries-availability-merged-thread/?do=findComment&comment=5774405'>More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted March 20 Share #195 Posted March 20 11 minutes ago, T25UFO said: Maybe an indication of supplies starting again. Hope so. I've been debating buying a used M10-R because it comes with a battery... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
T25UFO Posted March 20 Share #196 Posted March 20 Just now, TomB_tx said: Hope so. I've been debating buying a used M10-R because it comes with a battery... That would be an expensive battery! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brickftl Posted March 21 Share #197 Posted March 21 as of yesterday the L.A. Leica store had one in stock. It's probably gone now, but maybe if you call and have them put your name on a waiting list, you'll get one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
84bravo Posted March 27 Share #198 Posted March 27 I have a brand new battery that is flat out of the box. I let it sit too long in a drawer. Any suggestions on how to bring it back to life? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 27 Share #199 Posted March 27 11 minutes ago, 84bravo said: I have a brand new battery that is flat out of the box. I let it sit too long in a drawer. Any suggestions on how to bring it back to life? Google “jump start camera battery” it’s pretty easy. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
David__ Posted April 7 Share #200 Posted April 7 On 3/27/2025 at 1:56 PM, jdlaing said: Google “jump start camera battery” it’s pretty easy. I have purchased a M10 recently which was last serviced in July 2022. From its condition it was quite likely sitting in a drawer since then. Batteries were hence idle for around 20 months. I have three batteries and charging never completes to the point a solid green light is shown. When installed in to the camera I get just 2 bars (Leica app indicating 20%). Is there anyway to get an overall health of the battery ? Or is there anyway to revitalize the battery ? Would the jump start help ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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