35mm summicron V4 KOB: which hood is everybody using?

[gaheris]

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I have recently acquired one of those Canmany V4 made in god knows where, the one with the new front ring design (associated with Solms copies) but says made in Canada in the barrel (as opposed to Made in Canada engraved on the front ring). Some say it's the result of Leitz making these lense while moving factories and assets around in 86/87, and parts were used wherever and whenever they were available.

I have heard people saying the 12524 plastic hood, when used incorrectly, can damage the Canadian copies with plastic front ring. Mine doesn't look plastic but I am not sure if anything else inside could be. While I like the look, I fear a little the possibility of damaging my lens with these hoods, not to say a well worn copy of these hood cost roughly 150-250 USD these days. May as well buy a 12526, if Leica still sell them. 

12585 is kind of big for a lens this small but price-wise it seems more sensible. Has anyone got a picture of V4 with a 12585, on their M? 

I understand Tahusa is selling a metal copy of 12524/12526 on their shop, but I have not seen anyone's opinion on the quality or experience of using those.

Thanks in advance 🙂

 

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[Topsy]

I use a Leica one, 12585 it works fine and I think looks better than the supplied plastic one.

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[lct]

12524 or 12526 hoods won't damage your Canadian Summicron 35/2 v4 if you don't grab it by the hood. Otherwise, the 12504 hood works fine with that lens. It is expensive but you might be interested in a replica like this. I own one and it fits perfectly on both Summilux 35/1.4 v2 and Summicron 35/2 v4. The 12585 hood fits well too but i don't remember if it causes vignetting at full aperture.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152375063917

[Danner]

I use the 12524 rectangular plastic snap-on hood.  The lens and hood are both labeled 'Leitz Canada', work well, and do no cosmetic damage to one another.

Edited March 25, 2024 by Danner

[gaheris]

4 hours ago, Topsy said:

I use a Leica one, 12585 it works fine and I think looks better than the supplied plastic one.

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That looks lovely. I think it's interesting you have got a copy with different fonts for the hyperfocal distance against the aperture ring and distance indicator. Late 80s copy, I pressume?

4 hours ago, lct said:

12524 or 12526 hoods won't damage your Canadian Summicron 35/2 v4 if you don't grab it by the hood. Otherwise, the 12504 hood works fine with that lens. It is expensive but you might be interested in a replica like this. I own one and it fits perfectly on both Summilux 35/1.4 v2 and Summicron 35/2 v4. The 12585 hood fits well too but i don't remember if it causes vignetting at full aperture.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/152375063917

I have used 12504 with the lux pre-a before. I didn't appreciate how it was always spinning and got in the way of the aperture ring. But it looks like a good last resort if I want a cheap, good hood. Thank you!

3 hours ago, Danner said:

I use the 12524 rectangular plastic snap-on hood.  The lens and hood are both labeled 'Leitz Canada', work well, and do no cosmetic damage to one another.

Thanks for the info. I looked up and down the internet and physical stores and they are all a bit worn and quite pricy these days. Guess I'll have to be patient if I want a 12524/12526. When I was an art student many years ago I found this black rangefinder + square hood camera combo on Araki really cool (I didn't even know what Leica was). This will be a nostalgic buy for me if I do pony up the dough for it.

Many thanks again for your input guys. Decisions, decisions. 

[Alberti]

The standard hood gives some vignetting (dark corners) the 12504 not. 
I was so silly to trade the IV + hood in last week.

[Topsy]

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1 hour ago, gaheris said:

That looks lovely. I think it's interesting you have got a copy with different fonts for the hyperfocal distance against the aperture ring and distance indicator. Late 80s copy, I pressume?

1991 according to the serial number check, made in Germany.

[Danner]

20 hours ago, gaheris said:

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Many thanks again for your input guys. Decisions, decisions. 

What a great shot.  LOL.

[skueh]

On 3/25/2024 at 9:57 AM, Alberti said:

The standard hood gives some vignetting (dark corners) the 12504 not. 
I was so silly to trade the IV + hood in last week.

The standard 12524 or 12526 hoods also used on the M 35/2 Asph V1. I never came across any darks corners on either lenses.

[nodrog]

I use the original plastic rectangular hood 12526 with my German-made 35 Summicron IV from 1995. Works perfectly and no vignetting whatsoever. Personally I always thought the rectangular hoods looked coolest on Leica lenses, since they were the same proportion as 35mm film, so, in my mind, they suited the format better. I definitely prefer this hood to any of the round ones. Be careful with the rubber, snap-on, hood cover. If you lose them they can't be had anywhere for love nor money. 

[norbertnl]

The metal hoods (12585 or 12504) look quite cool on a Summicron 35, both IV and ASPH V1. I once tried IROOA (12579) on a silver 35 but it looked like a tail wagging the dog. 12524/12526 have one disadvantage (cheapish looks, at least some people feel that way) and three advantages: they are unobtrusive, efficient and, in case of an impact, they will mitigate the impact on the lens by breaking or desintegrating.

[Overgaard]

On 3/25/2024 at 5:54 AM, gaheris said:

I have recently acquired one of those Canmany V4 made in god knows where, the one with the new front ring design (associated with Solms copies) but says made in Canada in the barrel (as opposed to Made in Canada engraved on the front ring). Some say it's the result of Leitz making these lense while moving factories and assets around in 86/87, and parts were used wherever and whenever they were available.

I have heard people saying the 12524 plastic hood, when used incorrectly, can damage the Canadian copies with plastic front ring. Mine doesn't look plastic but I am not sure if anything else inside could be. While I like the look, I fear a little the possibility of damaging my lens with these hoods, not to say a well worn copy of these hood cost roughly 150-250 USD these days. May as well buy a 12526, if Leica still sell them. 

12585 is kind of big for a lens this small but price-wise it seems more sensible. Has anyone got a picture of V4 with a 12585, on their M? 

I understand Tahusa is selling a metal copy of 12524/12526 on their shop, but I have not seen anyone's opinion on the quality or experience of using those.

Thanks in advance 🙂

 

12504 is probably the most original one.

Believe it or now, I made a whole overview of all of them: https://www.overgaard.dk/leica-35mm-summicron-M-f20.html

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[lct]

For Summicron 35/2 asph v1, the standard hood is 12526.
12524 is for the Summicron 35/2 v4.
FWIW

[weatherproof]

On 3/25/2024 at 2:54 AM, gaheris said:

the one with the new front ring design (associated with Solms copies) but says made in Canada in the barrel (as opposed to Made in Canada engraved on the front ring). Some say it's the result of Leitz making these lense while moving factories and assets around in 86/87, and parts were used wherever and whenever they were available.

A few months back, I saw the opposite: Made in Canada front ring, but Germany on the barrel: https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/363806-is-this-308xxxx-35mm-summilux-made-in-canada-or-germany/#comment-4661291 

 

[gaheris]

Thank you for your advice, fellow forum members. I have just got myself a 12526 for about 100 usd, which seemed like an OK price for it. Here it is on my MP. 
 

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[roelandinho]

I have the 12524 (rectangular plastic) and the 12504 (vented round metal) hoods. 
 

Both are good, but I think the rectangular one is more effective at shielding the lens from the sun. When (dis)mounting the lens, hold it by the base, close to the lens mount (not the hood!) and you’ll be fine. 

Edited May 6, 2024 by roelandinho

[lct]

5 minutes ago, roelandinho said:

When (dis)mounting the lens, hold it by the base, close to the lens mount (not the hood!)

+1

[raizans]

Squarehood recently introduced a metal version of the 12524.

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On 5/6/2024 at 6:51 PM, gaheris said:

I have just got myself a 12526 (...) Here it is on my MP. 

..seeing you use a UV filter, can I ask: does that screw in the hood? It kinda looks like it in your picture..

..or is it a regular (E39 size) filter, that screws directly into the lens, and the 12526 hood clips "around it"?

Thanks!

[davidmknoble]

I used the 12526 on my first 35 Summicron ASPH.  They easily fit over a filter screwed on the lenses, but there is no pocket or something to otherwise attach a filter to the hood.

There was only one original round filter (I think it was the 12504) that unscrews and fits a Series VII filter.  I have a few of those and use them when I pull out the 24 Summilux with a 35 Summicron so that I only have one filter set.  Note the remake of the 12504 that Leica sells new does NOT screw apart.  Only the original ones do…

David.