Kwesi Posted November 4, 2023 Share #21 Posted November 4, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said: So what exactly is it about the M11-P that is going to make your photos so much better? Better is such a subjective word. What I can attest to though is that from 9 to 240, I gained more usable ISOs, a Portra like color palette, and a chance to dabble in video. From 240 to 10 I picked up a clean 3200 ISO, a return to a Kodachrome like color palette, and an ability to correct perspective in camera. From 10 to 11, I picked up a clean ISO 6400, an ability to explore subject separation by shooting my ‘luxes wide open in broad daylight since I don’t use ND filters, and very malleable files with regards to color and density. Now do any of these advancements make me a better photographer? I don’t know. But I do know that each generation has made me a more capable photographer. 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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elmars Posted November 4, 2023 Share #22 Posted November 4, 2023 vor 2 Stunden schrieb charlesphoto99: So what exactly is it about the M11-P that is going to make your photos so much better? The photos are not better, but I sm happier and work with the camera is easier. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted November 4, 2023 Author Share #23 Posted November 4, 2023 1 hour ago, elmars said: The photos are not better, but I sm happier and work with the camera is easier. The new surface makes it so much easier to grip, the camera is much more stable, the photos are sharper! The photographer is happier, the photos are too. 2 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted November 5, 2023 Share #24 Posted November 5, 2023 9 hours ago, setuporg said: The new surface makes it so much easier to grip, the camera is much more stable, the photos are sharper! The photographer is happier, the photos are too. oh nooo, still awaiting a black brass version.. may be the D iteration 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share #25 Posted November 5, 2023 (edited) 13 hours ago, benqui said: This question I always ask myself after buying a camera! The important word here to follow is ”after”!:) Edited November 5, 2023 by setuporg 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geotrupede Posted November 5, 2023 Share #26 Posted November 5, 2023 Just the odd one here I suppose, but no issues to be mentioned. I am however not using live view extensively, nor visor, nor connecting for geo location, simply taking pictures the old way as if I had an M9. It never crushes. Been more than a year and all is fine... G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobW0 Posted November 5, 2023 Share #27 Posted November 5, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just added an M11-P to go with my M10-R. No problems thus far, but I have not pushed it very hard yet. No complaints so far. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted November 5, 2023 Author Share #28 Posted November 5, 2023 Yeah after tuning off FOTOS all is good. Using IN for now. Lost about 10 shots out of 60 when crashing connected to FOTOS, restored most using PhotoRec from the card. Will wait to connect again when the firmware is updated. Overall a great experience, stapling away! I’ll miss the mechanical shutter when M12 will go all electronic. How’s our chance to do the mechanics while we can! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bilbrown Posted November 8, 2023 Share #29 Posted November 8, 2023 Been having this issue. First it was my card. Now I am not using a card. I reset the camera. today it stayed solid until I noticed the Wi-Fi icon was on while it had issues writing an image. Did not realize that it kept FOTOS on all the time. i have a shoot tonight, I am brining an M10-M as back-up and my SL2-S. I want to use the M11-P, bur if it freezes Ira going back in the bag and maybe back to the store tomorrow. Two weeks of this may be enough for me to look for an M10-R replacement (I handed over my M10-R to get this, and my Q2M). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpark114 Posted November 9, 2023 Share #30 Posted November 9, 2023 With all the fiascos I've experienced with M11, this thread further reinforces my skepticism on Leica & Digital in general. I'm seriously considering going only film with Leica, as I generally am in love with Leica film camera, and use digital only with other reputable brand like Sony, Canon, Nikon. Perhaps another film body.. black paint MP... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wizard Posted November 9, 2023 Share #31 Posted November 9, 2023 Summing up what has been said in this thread, it seems that not using the Leica FOTOS app, actually switching it off, and switching off WiFi will result in no freezes whatsoever. Which is fine for me, as I usually remove the memory card from the camera anyway when I want to transfer images to either my iPad or to my computer. So while not all is well, all should be good for me. Will pick up my M11P tomorrow afternoon. Any further tips for a digital M novice? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nameBrandon Posted November 9, 2023 Share #32 Posted November 9, 2023 For me (non-P), it was the SD card. I had a silver 128gb in there, and when I swapped out the card I had been using in my Q3 (a gold Lexar), all went back to normal. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 9, 2023 Share #33 Posted November 9, 2023 It’s really unfortunate that the M11 series keeps having firmware problems. My assumption is the v2.0.1 firmware didn’t get much testing because they had to meet the M11-P launch date. I’ve emailed Leica customer support asking about an update. They need to get a new firmware out ASAP. I think there are three bugs in this version… fotos/wifi freeze, random red framelines, and random DNG corruption. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warton Posted November 9, 2023 Share #34 Posted November 9, 2023 13 minutes ago, Crem said: It’s really unfortunate that the M11 series keeps having firmware problems. My assumption is the v2.0.1 firmware didn’t get much testing because they had to meet the M11-P launch date. I’ve emailed Leica customer support asking about an update. They need to get a new firmware out ASAP. I think there are three bugs in this version… fotos/wifi freeze, random red framelines, and random DNG corruption. I just don't understand why M11 people rush to upgrade to this 2.0.1 The only new features I can see from this firmware are CAI and closing shutter after lens being removed. Do you guys really need this thing? To me it's completely useless "new" features. On the day of M11-P and firmware 2.0.1 came out, I said the exactly same thing: M11 people, do NOT upgrade, I am sure it will have bugs. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share #35 Posted November 9, 2023 50 minutes ago, wizard said: Summing up what has been said in this thread, it seems that not using the Leica FOTOS app, actually switching it off, and switching off WiFi will result in no freezes whatsoever. Which is fine for me, as I usually remove the memory card from the camera anyway when I want to transfer images to either my iPad or to my computer. So while not all is well, all should be good for me. Will pick up my M11P tomorrow afternoon. Any further tips for a digital M novice? I’ve updated FOTOS last night and debit connected for a bit, no freezes. Used IN (internal memory). You ingest from internal by connecting USB-C cable, or Thunderbolt. That always worked fine for me so no worries there. You’ll enjoy it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 9, 2023 Share #36 Posted November 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, Warton said: I just don't understand why M11 people rush to upgrade to this 2.0.1 The only new features I can see from this firmware are CAI and closing shutter after lens being removed. Do you guys really need this thing? To me it's completely useless "new" features. On the day of M11-P and firmware 2.0.1 came out, I said the exactly same thing: M11 people, do NOT upgrade, I am sure it will have bugs. In the case of M11-P owners they get it by default and can’t downgrade. Leica is responsible for testing firmware, not customers. Clearly they didn’t do much testing this time. If it isn’t ready then they shouldn’t have made it publicly available. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted November 9, 2023 Share #37 Posted November 9, 2023 1 hour ago, wizard said: Any further tips for a digital M novice? Switch-off the touchscreen in case you do not use it. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edax Posted November 9, 2023 Share #38 Posted November 9, 2023 2 minutes ago, Crem said: In the case of M11-P owners they get it by default and can’t downgrade. Leica is responsible for testing firmware, not customers. Clearly they didn’t do much testing this time. If it isn’t ready then they shouldn’t have made it publicly available. Mine came with 1.7.0... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crem Posted November 9, 2023 Share #39 Posted November 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Edax said: Mine came with 1.7.0... Oh that’s good to know. I wish I could downgrade my M11. I’ve gotten in the habit of reformatting my card after every time I put it in my computer since I get random corrupt DNGs on 2.0.1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted November 9, 2023 Author Share #40 Posted November 9, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Crem said: In the case of M11-P owners they get it by default and can’t downgrade. Leica is responsible for testing firmware, not customers. Clearly they didn’t do much testing this time. If it isn’t ready then they shouldn’t have made it publicly available. I got mine with 1.7.0, the date on the certificate was July 30, 2023. So one could choose not to upgrade. The only thing that now bothers me is the magenta on night lights. WTF?!:) Edited November 9, 2023 by setuporg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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