pixelmixture Posted May 30, 2023 Share #1 Posted May 30, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) hi, this little camera is amazing but i'm still struggling to replace my beloved xpan with a digital solution. It could be it... with the Q3 and M11 sensor a panoramic crop would be a killer feature ... hope leica is listening . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted May 30, 2023 Share #2 Posted May 30, 2023 Err… what is so difficult about a panoramic crop in Lightroom et al.? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 31, 2023 Share #3 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, jaapv said: Err… what is so difficult about a panoramic crop in Lightroom et al.? An additional X-pan aspect ratio would help frame the shot (same as 16:9 and other selectable aspect ratios). I find it hard to shoot an image for a different aspect ratio than the one seen in the EVF/LCD. Edited May 31, 2023 by SrMi 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2023 Share #4 Posted May 31, 2023 Where does it stop? An 4x3 MFT ratio? A 1x1 Hasselblad ratio? A 16x9 ratio? A programmable ratio? There is a point at which the camera stops holding your hand. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel C.1975 Posted May 31, 2023 Share #5 Posted May 31, 2023 I dare say, that is a very niche request. Suggestion: Use the grid-lines and just add mentally a bit to the top and bottom and be with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted May 31, 2023 Share #6 Posted May 31, 2023 I’m not so sure it’s a niche request given that even my (ancient) M240-P displays framelines for 1:1, 6:7, 16:9 etc using the EVF. Adding an “X-pan” ratio to an EVF-only camera would seem not entirely taxing… 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simone_DF Posted May 31, 2023 Share #7 Posted May 31, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) Currently available on the SL2: 3:2, 7:5, 4:3, 1:1, 3:1, 16:9, so it's just a matter of adding another one. The GFX series has the X-Pan ratio, I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancook Posted May 31, 2023 Share #8 Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Daniel C.1975 said: I dare say, that is a very niche request. Suggestion: Use the grid-lines and just add mentally a bit to the top and bottom and be with it. That's what I've done in the past, using the centre section of the thirds gridlines. Had to photograph a panoramic shot of kids playing tug of war - without a visual aid it's difficult to keep on top of the composition - making sure the heads are all visible, within the frame and there's space on the left for copy. Kids are always moving around (and they had to be pulling on the rope anyway) and messing about, makes it a lot easier to have the crop lines at a glance - and if they move around I can move to adjust. That was for a billboard Edited May 31, 2023 by dancook Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted May 31, 2023 Share #9 Posted May 31, 2023 3 hours ago, jaapv said: Where does it stop? An 4x3 MFT ratio? A 1x1 Hasselblad ratio? A 16x9 ratio? A programmable ratio? There is a point at which the camera stops holding your hand. Most 3:2 cameras support 4:3, 1:1, 16:9 ratios. GFX and X1D support X pan crop. One of the main complains about X2D is that it has not implemented aspect ratios yet. Many cannot stand 3:2 ratios, and prefer 4:3 of MFT and cMF formats. With ILC cameras, I am mainly interested in 1:1 (couple with 17mm for an SWC look) and the XPan. On Q2, the XPan ratio would be most useful for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2023 Share #10 Posted May 31, 2023 The point with Leica is, however, that these are framelines indicating various focal lengths not cropping markings. As for framing a pano shot like Dan describes, one does not crop in the camera, so it is quite easy to adjust the framing on a computer screen. Nothing of the heads etc will be lost. It would just be an extra hassle trying to frame in the viewfinder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmixture Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share #11 Posted May 31, 2023 cropping in capture one is what i do ... but owning the magnificent xpan i can tell you that aiming with the right aspect ratio is a complete game changer. i find 35, 50 and 75 mm digital crop much less needed in term of composition ... cause it retains the same aspect ratio and the zoom can be mentally made looking at the whole picture easily... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobtodrick Posted May 31, 2023 Share #12 Posted May 31, 2023 17 hours ago, jaapv said: Where does it stop? An 4x3 MFT ratio? A 1x1 Hasselblad ratio? A 16x9 ratio? A programmable ratio? There is a point at which the camera stops holding your hand. So agree. Why is it that so many people want everything done for them? Are they patiently waiting for old age when the nurse will change their diaper and feed them their pablum? End of rant! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 31, 2023 Share #13 Posted May 31, 2023 59 minutes ago, pixelmixture said: cropping in capture one is what i do ... but owning the magnificent xpan i can tell you that aiming with the right aspect ratio is a complete game changer. i find 35, 50 and 75 mm digital crop much less needed in term of composition ... cause it retains the same aspect ratio and the zoom can be mentally made looking at the whole picture easily... That is exactly what you do with a Q. From anyplace on the sensor. You don’t need restrictive framelines in the viewfinder for that. Those are only there to attract M owners to the Q. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted June 1, 2023 Share #14 Posted June 1, 2023 7 hours ago, bobtodrick said: So agree. Why is it that so many people want everything done for them? Are they patiently waiting for old age when the nurse will change their diaper and feed them their pablum? End of rant! I rant, therefore I am - Dennis Miller 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qwertynm Posted June 1, 2023 Share #15 Posted June 1, 2023 crazy how people can get so worked up over someone else's feature request dare I say please let me remove the 75 and 90mm crop lines. I don't use them. replace them with a 65x24 aspect ratio. I'm all for it. It would be so easy to implement this but it's probably against the purists. glad we even get crop lines in the Q... instead of zoom with your feet, you got to pan with your han(d) 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M11 for me Posted June 1, 2023 Share #16 Posted June 1, 2023 and Q3 has 3:2, 4:3, 1:1 and 16:9. And once you crop in-camera then the crop lines appear in the selected aspect ratio. To me its a fair request. Just do it Leica. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelmixture Posted June 13, 2023 Author Share #17 Posted June 13, 2023 of course it's a fair request ... i'm struggling to find a digital replacement for my beloved and still used xpan ... and the 60mpx and the electronic viewfinder are the main ingredient needed to achieve that ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted June 13, 2023 Share #18 Posted June 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, pixelmixture said: of course it's a fair request ... i'm struggling to find a digital replacement for my beloved and still used xpan ... and the 60mpx and the electronic viewfinder are the main ingredient needed to achieve that ... sell the q and buy a x2d 😎 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted March 17, 2024 Share #19 Posted March 17, 2024 On 5/30/2023 at 11:26 PM, jaapv said: Where does it stop? An 4x3 MFT ratio? A 1x1 Hasselblad ratio? A 16x9 ratio? A programmable ratio? There is a point at which the camera stops holding your hand. Except the Q3 already does 4:3, 1:1 and 16:9. A programmable custom ratio doesn't seem outrageous. If it can't be handled for some reason, then customizable gridlines/frame lines seems just as reasonable. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookedart Posted March 17, 2024 Share #20 Posted March 17, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, AussieQ said: Agree 100%, just take your photo and crop it in post. In camera crop to panoramic is just stupid and lazy. How is it any more stupid and lazy than the built in crop for 35,50,75,90? You can crop to those focal lengths in post as well, but it is obviously better to have a frame line or guide in-camera so you can shoot with the proper aspect ratio/framing straight away. Those who use the Xpan regularly know what I mean - you could have always cropped 6x6 or 35mm film to the xpan ratio, or can stitch multiple frames to get a panoramic frame, but it is entirely different to compose for the aspect ratio to begin with. Again, having the option for this but having it disabled by default seems like it would serve everyone but not take away anything. I would be OK with it either being an actual selectable aspect ratio, or to have it simply by an optional guide (like the rule of thirds markings). Edited March 17, 2024 by cookedart 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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