SrMi Posted February 12, 2023 Share #101 Posted February 12, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) So far, all we know are rumors. IMO, if you need an L-mount camera now, get an SL2-S or SL2. Do not wait on an unannounced camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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helged Posted February 12, 2023 Share #102 Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, Dex_Keshin said: So Leica Rumors said "expect a new SL camera (SL3?) in September – November timeframe." And a member from the new 35 50 Summicron thread replied "SL3 won't be on the market before 2024.The boss of my Leica Store had a 3 days meeting with Leica HQ. SL3 won't be out before 2024, it's a fact." I hope there will be a new SL Camera as soon as possible. However, if both information are believable, it is possible that there will be another SL camera on the pipeline. Because Leica Rumors is not sure about the exact model, and the member is so sure there is no "SL3" for this year. Perhaps SL3-S? Or a SL-E that could be a rebadged SL2(-S)? (Since there is also a rumour about a Q-E, which claims to be the same as Q2) Or a rebadged S5II and manufactured by Panasonic (Just like LX100II & D-Lux 7), but I doubt Leica wants to put a fan inside the camera. It is also possible that SL3x will be announced in late 2023, but that it will not be available in stores before 2024 sometime. Irrespective of this, Leica lenses and bodies tend to be delayed, the most recent examples being the medium format S3 and SL-21mm. But both SL3x and SL21 will eventually come... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickness Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share #103 Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 8 hours ago, helged said: It is also possible that SL3x will be announced in late 2023, but that it will not be available in stores before 2024 sometime. Irrespective of this, Leica lenses and bodies tend to be delayed, the most recent examples being the medium format S3 and SL-21mm. But both SL3x and SL21 will eventually come... SL3 is coming this year. They’ve been pushing the SL2 fantastically hard the past few months, it’s like a fever pitch. They’re clearing inventory because the SL2 based camera values will totally nosedive once the SL3 comes with a new faster focusing system for probably the same money (as SL2). Already the discounts on SL2-S have gotten so large they’re not much more new than you can buy used. And there are going to be a ton of these camera available used for cheap when the SL-3 drops. SL3-S maybe 2024, but I 100% believe we’ll see SL3, Q3, and M11M this year. Edited February 12, 2023 by trickness 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fededuran Posted February 12, 2023 Share #104 Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, trickness said: SL3 is coming this year. They’ve been pushing the SL2 fantastically hard the past few months, it’s like a fever pitch. They’re clearing inventory because the SL2 based camera values will totally nosedive once the SL3 comes with a new faster focusing system for probably the same money (as SL2). Already the discounts on SL2-S have gotten so large they’re not much more new than you can buy used. And there are going to be a ton of these camera available used for cheap when the SL-3 drops. SL3-S maybe 2024, but I 100% believe we’ll see SL3, Q3, and M11M this year. M11M and Q3 will come before this summer. Sl3 will be released next year. My two cents. Edited February 12, 2023 by fededuran 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kkochheiser Posted February 12, 2023 Share #105 Posted February 12, 2023 47 minutes ago, trickness said: SL3 is coming this year. They’ve been pushing the SL2 fantastically hard the past few months, it’s like a fever pitch. They’re clearing inventory because the SL2 based camera values will totally nosedive once the SL3 comes with a new faster focusing system for probably the same money (as SL2). Already the discounts on SL2-S have gotten so large they’re not much more new than you can buy used. And there are going to be a ton of these camera available used for cheap when the SL-3 drops. SL3-S maybe 2024, but I 100% believe we’ll see SL3, Q3, and M11M this year. I totally believe they will be announced this year. Actually having one in hand will be unlikely before sometime in 2024. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kim Dahl Posted February 12, 2023 Share #106 Posted February 12, 2023 As I remember it, the SL2 series has been ready from the day they were launched. +/- a week or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted February 12, 2023 Share #107 Posted February 12, 2023 Advertisement (gone after registration) After the M11 issues, I wouldn't be in too much of a rush to sell. You could end up with no camera... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted February 12, 2023 Share #108 Posted February 12, 2023 vor 1 Stunde schrieb Kim Dahl: As I remember it, the SL2 series has been ready from the day they were launched. +/- a week or two. two weeks: announced November 6th, 2019; first delivery November 21th 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted February 12, 2023 Share #109 Posted February 12, 2023 7 hours ago, Saussure said: The ideal solution for me would be that Leica produce a Q-L (an L-mount Q3) The lenses would still be L mount lenses, so large and heavy. You still have to engineer where to place the shutter, sensor and the L mount in a camera body that was never designed for this independent lens configuration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyChoi Posted February 22, 2023 Share #110 Posted February 22, 2023 can't wait Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnathanLovm Posted February 23, 2023 Share #111 Posted February 23, 2023 60MP with built-in GPS would be fine. Minimalistic design like Typ 601 would be great. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted February 23, 2023 Share #112 Posted February 23, 2023 (edited) 4 buttons as SL Tilting screen (90 degrees both ways), swivel is nice PS. A number of SL2 have appeared on 2nd hand market here, as low as CHF3800 Edited February 23, 2023 by Sandokan 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
romaing Posted February 23, 2023 Share #113 Posted February 23, 2023 On 2/12/2023 at 5:07 PM, trickness said: SL3 is coming this year. They’ve been pushing the SL2 fantastically hard the past few months, it’s like a fever pitch. They’re clearing inventory because the SL2 based camera values will totally nosedive once the SL3 comes with a new faster focusing system for probably the same money (as SL2). Already the discounts on SL2-S have gotten so large they’re not much more new than you can buy used. And there are going to be a ton of these camera available used for cheap when the SL-3 drops. SL3-S maybe 2024, but I 100% believe we’ll see SL3, Q3, and M11M this year. I won't be so sure. My store had a 3 days workshop with Leica HQ. Concerning the SL3 he told me not before the end of 2023, but most certainly at the beginning of 2024. I was asking him about the risk of buying a SL2 and having the new iteration coming in 6 months. He clearly told me I could keep it for almost one year before the new one will be out. It was at the beginning of February 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickness Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share #114 Posted February 23, 2023 22 minutes ago, romaing said: I won't be so sure. My store had a 3 days workshop with Leica HQ. Concerning the SL3 he told me not before the end of 2023, but most certainly at the beginning of 2024. I was asking him about the risk of buying a SL2 and having the new iteration coming in 6 months. He clearly told me I could keep it for almost one year before the new one will be out. It was at the beginning of February Which is exactly what they’d say if they wanted to sell remaining SL2 inventory before the SL3 launch. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobra Posted February 23, 2023 Share #115 Posted February 23, 2023 10 hours ago, trickness said: Which is exactly what they’d say if they wanted to sell remaining SL2 inventory before the SL3 launch. Or exactly what they would say to their dealers if it is true. Why all the conspiracy theories? Brad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted February 23, 2023 Share #116 Posted February 23, 2023 Dealers still need to shift stock regardless of whether it’s new or old. It’s not about conspiracy theories or lying; it’s just common business sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobra Posted February 23, 2023 Share #117 Posted February 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Le Chef said: Dealers still need to shift stock regardless of whether it’s new or old. It’s not about conspiracy theories or lying; it’s just common business sense. I completely agree, and every manufacturer has to manage that -- the conspiracy theory I referenced was when another poster suggested that Leica would lie to dealers, and that dealers would come here and lie, just to sell a few extra cameras. Not sure why they had to throw that into the conversation. Maybe they know something I don't??? I am very interested in when the SL3 will arrive, and what new features it will have. But in the meantime I am happily using my SL2 that I got just last month and am not at all worried that I overpaid. Even if a new model comes sooner than I thought, my SL2 does - and still will - create amazing images. Brad 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Chef Posted February 23, 2023 Share #118 Posted February 23, 2023 If manufacturers lie to dealers they lose the dealer's trust and fairly soon the dealer. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olaf_ZG Posted February 23, 2023 Share #119 Posted February 23, 2023 If the SL3 has sortwise sensor as the m11, I will buy it. Though I might wait some months so child diseases are polished out (if any). It might be early or late 2024… so still far away. For that reason I just upgraded to the sl2-s: 12 months of photography is a lot of time to enjoy… 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
trickness Posted February 23, 2023 Author Share #120 Posted February 23, 2023 3 hours ago, kobra said: Or exactly what they would say to their dealers if it is true. Why all the conspiracy theories? Brad Because it’s time. They’ve been pushing the SL2 so hard the past few months, all sorts of package deals, the SL2-S has been discounted so heavily it’s within reach of the used price of the camera….plus Leica Rumors has already mentioned it was coming (likely late) this year along with M11M and Q3. With everything going on in the market from the competition, you really think its going to be another year plus before the SL3 comes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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