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5 hours ago, Fotoklaus said:

The Schneider Xenar of the Rolleicord Vb is also an exellent lens. A well adjusted Vb is everything you need, as most of the lightmeters of the "better" models don´t work properly.

This is what I have. A mint Vb(ii). A great travel companion because it's so small. It's a no-worry camera with stunning sharpness, so long as I'm reading the light correctly--which, after all, is what we're supposed to do.

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On 10/3/2022 at 8:34 AM, Danner said:

Perhaps the new M would have a shorter minimum focus distance to take e advantage of the newer lenses?

This is THE main reason I have a really hard time justifying purchasing one of the new close focus lenses. This would be a huge game changer if for some way they could figure it out. 
 

I’d be all in if they could. 

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On 10/3/2022 at 2:34 PM, Danner said:

Perhaps the new M would have a shorter minimum focus distance to take e advantage of the newer lenses?

 

This is very unlikely because it would require a redesign of the rangefinder mechanism. 

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The Rolleiflex TLR is the perfect travel camera. I take the M only for long trips when I can’t carry more than 50 rolls of 120. I have had more keepers with a 3.5f and Hasselblad SWC for street. I sold a lot of my film cameras including the SWC when I bought an M10M now with much regret but I kept most of my Rollei’s. 

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11 hours ago, bags27 said:

The problem with waiting on the market for the Rolleiflex is that, while prices might weaken a bit with the economy, the number of working cameras will inevitably decrease as well. If one can live with a fixed lens, I think it's the perfect camera. Like a shark, it is designed for one thing and does it perfectly. Plus, people stop you on the sidewalk to admire it. I'm looking at a late f/3.5 Xenotar right now, and doing everything to resist!

I recently sold my perfect condition 2.8 E because I saw that these older Rolleiflexes are now susceptible to lens separation.  I kept my much more modern 2.8 GX 60 Jahre, which while it is nowhere near as nicely made, is a better shooter due to the very bright and easy to use focus screen and the built in ttl meter.

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1 hour ago, tightsqueez said:

This is THE main reason I have a really hard time justifying purchasing one of the new close focus lenses. This would be a huge game changer if for some way they could figure it out. 
 

I’d be all in if they could. 

With the digi Ms, live view is the answer.  With film Ms, well the 50 DR had those close focus goggles.  Perhaps Leica could release a new set that would attach via the hotshoe and be lens specific - for the mythical new film M that can focus closer than .7m.

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1 hour ago, Huss said:

With the digi Ms, live view is the answer.  With film Ms, well the 50 DR had those close focus goggles.  Perhaps Leica could release a new set that would attach via the hotshoe and be lens specific - for the mythical new film M that can focus closer than .7m.

I guess I'm unusual, but I have never needed to focus closer than the MFD supported by the M rangefinder.  I have to assume it's a relatively common use case for M shooters or Leica wouldn't offer these close focusing lenses, but I can't think of a case in which it would be useful to me. 

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2 hours ago, Huss said:

I recently sold my perfect condition 2.8 E because I saw that these older Rolleiflexes are now susceptible to lens separation.  I kept my much more modern 2.8 GX 60 Jahre, which while it is nowhere near as nicely made, is a better shooter due to the very bright and easy to use focus screen and the built in ttl meter.

The 2.8 Planars have a cemented front group susceptible to separation. The Tele-Rollei is also plagued. The 3.5 Planar is the same design but without this problem. For 2.8 the Xenotars are safer bet. 

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5 hours ago, Huss said:

I recently sold my perfect condition 2.8 E because I saw that these older Rolleiflexes are now susceptible to lens separation.  I kept my much more modern 2.8 GX 60 Jahre, which while it is nowhere near as nicely made, is a better shooter due to the very bright and easy to use focus screen and the built in ttl meter.

Interesting Huss , I was looking at these yesterday, well it was the FX with 80: 2.8 Planar.. 

I couldn’t find any information about the lens - are the lenses in the GX and FX noticeably more modern than the older versions ? In Leica terms my favourite lenses are 60s/70s designs so I wondered if I should be looking at older Rolleis ?  🤔 

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15 minutes ago, grahamc said:

Interesting Huss , I was looking at these yesterday, well it was the FX with 80: 2.8 Planar.. 

I couldn’t find any information about the lens - are the lenses in the GX and FX noticeably more modern than the older versions ? In Leica terms my favourite lenses are 60s/70s designs so I wondered if I should be looking at older Rolleis ?  🤔 

The main difference is the modern HFT coatings which increase contrast and reduce flare.  I never had issues w my old 2.8E Planar that made me want for something else.

The only  reason I sold was because I didnt want to deal w lens separation.

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13 minutes ago, Huss said:

The main difference is the modern HFT coatings which increase contrast and reduce flare.  I never had issues w my old 2.8E Planar that made me want for something else.

The only  reason I sold was because I didnt want to deal w lens separation.

Thanks.  May follow your lead there then 👍 ... nice FX on sale locally

Was mainly worried about if the modern lenses are a more clinical look but doesn’t sound like it 

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Recently taken w 2.8 GX, Acros and Portra 400

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GX, Portra 400

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2.8E, Superia 400

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Fyi that last pic is the magic of the Rolleiflex.  I was walking minding my own business when these kids freaked out when they saw my camera, and asked if I would take their pic.  This happens all the time with a Rolleiflex!  

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23 minutes ago, Huss said:

Fyi that last pic is the magic of the Rolleiflex.  I was walking minding my own business when these kids freaked out when they saw my camera, and asked if I would take their pic.  This happens all the time with a Rolleiflex!  

Love that - great images thanks .   That's one of the reasons I want to get one - get a vibe for who wants their picture taken really quickly ha

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18 minutes ago, grahamc said:

What a great pic - hope you took their details they must love this 

Yeah, the kid in the red pants got my info and I sent him a jpeg to share.  He was really happy!

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