Huss Posted October 4, 2022 Share #481 Posted October 4, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 39 minutes ago, jakontil said: Too overhyped.. i thought i wanted one to try, after scouting the market, oh well.. mediocre indeed im amazed the power of influencer.. that’s what they called Yeah while optically very nice, the build quality is just so plasticky and lacking compared to Hasselblads or Rolleiflexes. The thing is, pretty much every mf camera I have tried has had great lenses. Perhaps it also has something to do w the big hunk o film! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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logan2z Posted October 4, 2022 Share #482 Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: Yeah while optically very nice, the build quality is just so plasticky I've flirted with picking up a Fuji 6x9 but its plasticky body is also a turn off. I'll stick with my Hasselblad 500 C/M, although the Plaubel Makina 67 has piqued my interest... 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted October 4, 2022 Share #483 Posted October 4, 2022 Take the fujica G690BL. It's solid metal and has interchangeable lenses. And you don't have to limit yourself to the square format of the Hasselblad but have the Leica ratio 3:2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share #484 Posted October 4, 2022 8 hours ago, verwackelt said: Same with the Mamiya 7. The Hipstagram hype has caused used prices to skyrocket. Although the lenses are great, the camera itself is only mediocre... Hmm.. I own way too many cameras. The Mamiya 7 is, as a camera body, my very favorite. The lenses are great, but sometimes too clinically sharp for me. If only I could have a Mamiya 7 with Zeiss glass....So, no, i don't think, relative to other cameras it's overpriced. Not when a Plaubel Makina 67 with a fixed lens is ~2$k+.... 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 4, 2022 Author Share #485 Posted October 4, 2022 26 minutes ago, logan2z said: I've flirted with picking up a Fuji 6x9 but its plasticky body is also a turn off. I'll stick with my Hasselblad 500 C/M, although the Plaubel Makina 67 has piqued my interest... The Fuji is a fun camera. And the plastic isn't a problem for me. It just reminds me it's a weatherbeater. And pulling postcard size negatives out of the soup is a real pleasure! Under some conditions, the lens is amazingly sharp. I bought it very cheap, but if you have mad money, the 65mm one is a terrific landscape camera. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 4, 2022 Share #486 Posted October 4, 2022 1 hour ago, logan2z said: I've flirted with picking up a Fuji 6x9 but its plasticky body is also a turn off. I'll stick with my Hasselblad 500 C/M, although the Plaubel Makina 67 has piqued my interest... I recently sold my Fuji GW 690III. Great results but just not enjoyable to use. And mine had a perchance for fat rolling the film. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted October 4, 2022 Share #487 Posted October 4, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) 4 hours ago, bags27 said: Hmm.. I own way too many cameras. The Mamiya 7 is, as a camera body, my very favorite. The lenses are great, but sometimes too clinically sharp for me. If only I could have a Mamiya 7 with Zeiss glass....So, no, i don't think, relative to other cameras it's overpriced. Not when a Plaubel Makina 67 with a fixed lens is ~2$k+.... But what a fixed lens. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted October 5, 2022 Share #488 Posted October 5, 2022 10 hours ago, Huss said: Yeah while optically very nice, the build quality is just so plasticky and lacking compared to Hasselblads or Rolleiflexes. The thing is, pretty much every mf camera I have tried has had great lenses. Perhaps it also has something to do w the big hunk o film! Exactly, im sticking with hasselblad for medfor while waiting on the market for rolleiflex Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share #489 Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, jakontil said: Exactly, im sticking with hasselblad for medfor while waiting on the market for rolleiflex The problem with waiting on the market for the Rolleiflex is that, while prices might weaken a bit with the economy, the number of working cameras will inevitably decrease as well. If one can live with a fixed lens, I think it's the perfect camera. Like a shark, it is designed for one thing and does it perfectly. Plus, people stop you on the sidewalk to admire it. I'm looking at a late f/3.5 Xenotar right now, and doing everything to resist! Edited October 5, 2022 by bags27 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyp82 Posted October 5, 2022 Share #490 Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) I had a Mamiya 7ii for a while, loved the output. Super sharp, very compact for a medium format camera. However the body felt like a toy, very fragile, as it cost so much I was constantly worried the slightest knock would crack part of the aged plastic case and remove £500 of value! I sold it out of fear. Edit-also it had the least satisfying shutter click ever! Edited October 5, 2022 by Jimmyp82 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fotoklaus Posted October 5, 2022 Share #491 Posted October 5, 2022 I owned a Plaubel Makina 67 and also a Fuji GW 690 III. Both great cameras, the Plaubel has been serviced back then at Plaubel Frankfurt, so no issues with broken cables. The Body was very solid, the lens aboslutely perfect. But I never really liked the 6x7 format so I sold it. The Fuji was easy to use and felt like a big Leica. But I hardly used it and sold it also. I stick with my Rolleiflexes and 6x6 Format. They are the best compromise between image quality, size and weight. And I like the 6x6 format very much. The Schneider Xenar of the Rolleicord Vb is also an exellent lens. A well adjusted Vb is everything you need, as most of the lightmeters of the "better" models don´t work properly. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
verwackelt Posted October 5, 2022 Share #492 Posted October 5, 2022 vor 13 Stunden schrieb bags27: Hmm.. I own way too many cameras. The Mamiya 7 is, as a camera body, my very favorite. The lenses are great, but sometimes too clinically sharp for me. If only I could have a Mamiya 7 with Zeiss glass....So, no, i don't think, relative to other cameras it's overpriced. Not when a Plaubel Makina 67 with a fixed lens is ~2$k+.... Yes Plaubel is very expensive too. MArket in europe and the US is sometimes different too. I bought my Mamiya7 in about 2000 new and got it replaced soon within warranty time because of its light leaks. The new i got had a broken counter soon. I made great pictures with it but with a tape on the back where i had to list the taken shots. I had it repaired again but was not very lucky then. Great pictures but a bit unreliable. For what i paid for a new camera and what it is asked now used it is too much for me. I sold it as i need some cash 10-12 years ago for much less i could get today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted October 5, 2022 Share #493 Posted October 5, 2022 2 hours ago, bags27 said: The problem with waiting on the market for the Rolleiflex is that, while prices might weaken a bit with the economy, the number of working cameras will inevitably decrease as well. If one can live with a fixed lens, I think it's the perfect camera. Like a shark, it is designed for one thing and does it perfectly. Plus, people stop you on the sidewalk to admire it. I'm looking at a late f/3.5 Xenotar right now, and doing everything to resist! You are so right on this, i had the chance with 2.8Gx was in perfect and mint conditions, but i took a little too long now it’s gone, i m always a one lens man despite having variety well im tempted with some limited editions M6 like dragon, while piling up the budget, i might as well wait for the announcement 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted October 5, 2022 Author Share #494 Posted October 5, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, Fotoklaus said: The Schneider Xenar of the Rolleicord Vb is also an exellent lens. A well adjusted Vb is everything you need, as most of the lightmeters of the "better" models don´t work properly. This is what I have. A mint Vb(ii). A great travel companion because it's so small. It's a no-worry camera with stunning sharpness, so long as I'm reading the light correctly--which, after all, is what we're supposed to do. Edited October 5, 2022 by bags27 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightsqueez Posted October 5, 2022 Share #495 Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 8:34 AM, Danner said: Perhaps the new M would have a shorter minimum focus distance to take e advantage of the newer lenses? This is THE main reason I have a really hard time justifying purchasing one of the new close focus lenses. This would be a huge game changer if for some way they could figure it out. I’d be all in if they could. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adli Posted October 5, 2022 Share #496 Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/3/2022 at 2:34 PM, Danner said: Perhaps the new M would have a shorter minimum focus distance to take e advantage of the newer lenses? This is very unlikely because it would require a redesign of the rangefinder mechanism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtai Posted October 5, 2022 Share #497 Posted October 5, 2022 The Rolleiflex TLR is the perfect travel camera. I take the M only for long trips when I can’t carry more than 50 rolls of 120. I have had more keepers with a 3.5f and Hasselblad SWC for street. I sold a lot of my film cameras including the SWC when I bought an M10M now with much regret but I kept most of my Rollei’s. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 5, 2022 Share #498 Posted October 5, 2022 11 hours ago, bags27 said: The problem with waiting on the market for the Rolleiflex is that, while prices might weaken a bit with the economy, the number of working cameras will inevitably decrease as well. If one can live with a fixed lens, I think it's the perfect camera. Like a shark, it is designed for one thing and does it perfectly. Plus, people stop you on the sidewalk to admire it. I'm looking at a late f/3.5 Xenotar right now, and doing everything to resist! I recently sold my perfect condition 2.8 E because I saw that these older Rolleiflexes are now susceptible to lens separation. I kept my much more modern 2.8 GX 60 Jahre, which while it is nowhere near as nicely made, is a better shooter due to the very bright and easy to use focus screen and the built in ttl meter. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huss Posted October 5, 2022 Share #499 Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, tightsqueez said: This is THE main reason I have a really hard time justifying purchasing one of the new close focus lenses. This would be a huge game changer if for some way they could figure it out. I’d be all in if they could. With the digi Ms, live view is the answer. With film Ms, well the 50 DR had those close focus goggles. Perhaps Leica could release a new set that would attach via the hotshoe and be lens specific - for the mythical new film M that can focus closer than .7m. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
logan2z Posted October 5, 2022 Share #500 Posted October 5, 2022 1 hour ago, Huss said: With the digi Ms, live view is the answer. With film Ms, well the 50 DR had those close focus goggles. Perhaps Leica could release a new set that would attach via the hotshoe and be lens specific - for the mythical new film M that can focus closer than .7m. I guess I'm unusual, but I have never needed to focus closer than the MFD supported by the M rangefinder. I have to assume it's a relatively common use case for M shooters or Leica wouldn't offer these close focusing lenses, but I can't think of a case in which it would be useful to me. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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