MikeMyers Posted February 10, 2022 Share #141 Posted February 10, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 2/2/2022 at 10:36 AM, hdmesa said: The fp L is a weird little camera. Jury is still out on if I keep it. EVF is awkward to attach (looks easy to break while attaching) and makes the camera bigger than an M. What is a Leica FP L ??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SrMi Posted February 10, 2022 Share #142 Posted February 10, 2022 8 minutes ago, MikeMyers said: What is a Leica FP L ??? FP L is a Sigma L-mount camera, electronic shutter only, 60MP, optional EVF. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted February 11, 2022 Share #143 Posted February 11, 2022 I wouldn’t buy a M camera with an EVF, but I would buy a M-sized camera with an EVF that had the L-mount. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted February 11, 2022 Share #144 Posted February 11, 2022 16 minutes ago, oldwino said: I wouldn’t buy a M camera with an EVF, but I would buy a M-sized camera with an EVF that had the L-mount. APS-C or FF? Leica CL is still a great camera. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomconte Posted February 11, 2022 Share #145 Posted February 11, 2022 NO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
idusidusi Posted February 11, 2022 Share #146 Posted February 11, 2022 On 1/27/2022 at 5:53 PM, raizans said: Yes! I bet there are more M users and potential users who want an EVF than there are who want a direct vision viewfinder. The rangefinder M will be the flagship, and the EVF M will be the workhorse. I could see that strategy working. Keep the EVF M separate to the M. Then I would be happy as I would choose the M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 11, 2022 Share #147 Posted February 11, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) There are lots of great little cameras, and I have some, but if it wasn't full frame, I'd have no interest in it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 11, 2022 Share #148 Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, oldwino said: I wouldn’t buy a M camera with an EVF, but I would buy a M-sized camera with an EVF that had the L-mount. That sounds like a brilliant idea!!!!! I suppose it would be a lot more practical. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
archive_all Posted February 11, 2022 Share #149 Posted February 11, 2022 I wouldn't buy an evf M. I don't like the magnify to focus experience since the composition gets lost, it's not ideal and it's a workaround. To me the rangefinder is just the fastest way to manually focus and I have no issues with accuracy. I think evf is better suited to autofocus personally. A small evf L mount camera that was also tuned for M lens performance would be the most versatile, imho. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abphoto Posted February 11, 2022 Share #150 Posted February 11, 2022 No I wouldn't buy an EVF only M. I own Leica M partially because they are true rangefinders. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldwino Posted February 11, 2022 Share #151 Posted February 11, 2022 15 hours ago, SrMi said: APS-C or FF? Leica CL is still a great camera. Full Monty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen.s1 Posted February 11, 2022 Share #152 Posted February 11, 2022 I wanted to say yes.. But then my other cameras (non-FP) do that job without any help from Leitz. I certainly don't need to replace my M10-P or M10-M. I only use the RF when perfect focus is necessary. Estimating distance, and only having to think of how much exposure comp to dial in makes using the Ms such a pleasure. Not to mention fast. Bottom line: No thanks. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted February 12, 2022 Share #153 Posted February 12, 2022 Just give me the M body, M mount, the M11 sensor, shutter etc... Dump the rangefinder, and add a high resolution EVF in the same location as the M viewfinder. Tilt screen would be nice. SOLD... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted February 12, 2022 Share #154 Posted February 12, 2022 I haven't run across an EVF I like yet, and that includes the SL2 or Q2. To me it's like watching a miniature television, and a not very good one at that. I could see it only making my photography worse, not better. I did, in a moment of weakness and when my M was in the shop, purchase a CL, and as soon as the M was back, there it's sat, sad and lonely. Need to find another owner for it someday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeMyers Posted February 13, 2022 Share #155 Posted February 13, 2022 5 hours ago, Planetwide said: Just give me the M body, M mount, the M11 sensor, shutter etc... Dump the rangefinder, and add a high resolution EVF in the same location as the M viewfinder. Tilt screen would be nice. Which lenses would it use? M lenses? No coupling? Would the Fuji viewfinder be adequate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ynp Posted February 13, 2022 Share #156 Posted February 13, 2022 I had said no. then I got an idea: my mini view camera Cambo Actus with the 373 module can utilise the M. I use either with an old Sony or my Leica M10-r. The latter does not tether. If a EVF Ms have a bulletproof tethering to a Mac or iPad Pro , then I will consider it as a digital back. The P1 backs are too expensive, and my adapted lenses cover the 135 format better. Waiting till the M11 get a tethering to see what is possible Yevgeny. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted February 13, 2022 Share #157 Posted February 13, 2022 2 hours ago, ynp said: I had said no. then I got an idea: my mini view camera Cambo Actus with the 373 module can utilise the M. I use either with an old Sony or my Leica M10-r. The latter does not tether. If a EVF Ms have a bulletproof tethering to a Mac or iPad Pro , then I will consider it as a digital back. The P1 backs are too expensive, and my adapted lenses cover the 135 format better. Waiting till the M11 get a tethering to see what is possible Yevgeny. maybe when capture one comes out on the iPad. that would be exiting... at this point I use the fotos app on iPad Pro with USB-C cable and it works ok. but only see the image and capture, no editing and coping to iPad automatically 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted February 13, 2022 Share #158 Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, MikeMyers said: Which lenses would it use? M lenses? No coupling? Would the Fuji viewfinder be adequate? I think that the current rangefinder should remain, this would be an additional version. Peaking and electronic zoom would be fine, just like the SL series. It would need to have a SL2 level viewfinder or better. Just put the new M viewfinder in the body... Edited February 13, 2022 by Planetwide Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted February 14, 2022 Share #159 Posted February 14, 2022 I've always wanted an option to see shutter speed and iso in the viewfinder (and not just when in A mode). Would really help when working in the dark. Would be nice if it could be switched on/off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
henning Posted March 12, 2022 Share #160 Posted March 12, 2022 No EVF-M for me. Occasionally I use the EVF for my M10M when I use the Laowa 9mm or 14mm or for more precise framing with the WATE, but mostly the framing doesn't need to be that precise. I like the M cameras for their handling, the RF, the optical VF and basic simplicity that rewards my having used them for 60 years. When I want to do other things, I use other cameras; there are plenty out there that give excellent results. On the other hand, if Leica can add to their bottom line, let them go for it. Just not for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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