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Survey: Would you buy an EVF only camera with an M mount?  

473 members have voted

  1. 1. Should Leica make a manual focus EVF camera?

    • Absolutely. I'm second in line after Flash.
      191
    • Never! It's the work of the Devil.
      77
    • Hmmm? Not sure. I'd want to see it first.
      106
    • I want one of each. M11 and this new wonder camera!
      30
    • Not for me but I'd be happy if it exists.
      61
    • Does it come in Monochrom?
      8

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Rangefinder is still the best system ever made for manual focus. Much better than an SLR, much better than an EVF, much better than anything else out there. That’s the reason why I use Leica, because

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It's sad to see how many users buy into the M system but don't understand the working ethos of it. The M is, and should always be, about the OVF and rangefinder focusing. It's what makes it unique, es

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Lots of whining about what the M can't do - I truly think that a Nikon/Canon/Sony would be better for a lot of users pining for an EVF M. I know that with an MEVF I wouldn't personally have been able to take shots like this with red or green squiggles and magnifying glasses going on, trying to get the 'perfect' focus. Sometimes you just have to know what you are doing and shoot. M9/24mm Elmarit and M9/135mm Tele-Elmar. That said, they may as well make one, since that seems to be what people want. Plenty of existing M's on the market as it is with just the RF. 

 

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1 hour ago, lct said:

My right thumb is stuck on the thumb rest. Nothing moves but the right index finger and the left hand. Too late to change if i wanted and i don't want at all. The simple idea of my poor thumb wriggling to touch the SL controller makes me smile. One of the reasons why i bought my first Sony at the launch of the SL BTW. 

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1 hour ago, SrMi said:

Are you comfortable shooting with a 50mm lens at 1/25sec or 1/100sec? I am typically shooting at 1/100 (1/(2f)), but IBIS would allow me to shoot static subjects at 1/10 sec, i.e., using at least a 3 stops larger exposure (ISO 200 instead of ISO 1600). There is not much help from IBIS when shooting moving subjects unless motion blur is desired.

1/25".  I've shot perfectly sharp scenes over 2" with IBIS. So sure, it's a positive and quite useful in some situations.  But if forced to choose between IBIS and the RF, I'd opt for the latter.  Others might feel differently, but I use the RF for every shot. I only need to push beyond the 1/2 focal length boundary on occasion. And if I know I'm likely to be in that situation, I bring the SL2 anyway. 

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6 hours ago, Kiwimac said:

Just offer two versions, as they already do with Monochrom and colour. We can choose. 

Hence i said, RF stays, everything else optional

im aware more and more people leaning towards evf, i dont know how and why, all i care is RF, that’s all 

not even ibis bs 😀

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51 minutes ago, dem331 said:

Is there any reason they would prefer an M mount to an L one for a small full frame EVF camera? I would probably be interested in the latter. 

Old debate. It's just that some people are interested in RFs in the first place, others in M lenses mainly. It doesn't mean that the latter dislike RF's, at least I don't at all, but they want to use their M lenses in the best conditions including a high res sensor designed exclusively for them and an EVF allowing to nail focus on such sensor even if the photog's visual acuity is not perfect. Not to mention features like autozoom which only M cameras can offer.

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5 hours ago, Kiwimac said:

Yes I guess so. In mono it might be even more useful as it would, like the Q2M, show in the finder as B&W.

One can set the VF for b&w even with a color-based Q (or M)… if JPEG saturation is set to monochrome (and also produce a DNG color file). 
 

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26 minutes ago, lct said:

Old debate. It's just that some people are interested in RFs in the first place, others in M lenses mainly. It doesn't mean that the latter dislike RF's, at least I don't at all, but they want to use their M lenses in the best conditions including a high res sensor designed exclusively for them and an EVF allowing to nail focus on such sensor even if the photog's visual acuity is not perfect. Not to mention features like autozoom which only M  rangefinder cameras can offer.

I corrected that for you. Extremely doubtful whether an EVF M would offer autozoom as it would have no rangefinder coupling. The rangefinder coupling activates the autozoom.

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Just now, jaapv said:

Extremely doubtful whether an EVF M would offer autozoom as it would have no rangefinder coupling. The rangefinder coupling activates the autozoom.

Only the roller cam would be needed. We discussed this already.

 

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24 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I corrected that for you. Extremely doubtful whether an EVF M would offer autozoom as it would have no rangefinder coupling. The rangefinder coupling activates the autozoom.

I guess the current auto zoom method works by the firmware detecting movement of the bearing in the lens mount  against the lens cam. If that's the case why couldn't an EVF version do the same?

Oops,  simultaneous post as above

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