I ordered the m10-r black paint

[huntca]

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I've been using Leica film bodies for a while and just picked up an M10BP because it's beautiful... but one minor thing has been driving me nuts. The key on the bottom plate does not stay flush against the body. It flops up/down on its own. The plate has not un-locked itself (yet?), but the film bodies have much more solid engagement and I'm curious if this is normal for a digital M or if my key is loose. 😆

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[Yarosuav]

1 hour ago, huntca said:

I've been using Leica film bodies for a while and just picked up an M10BP because it's beautiful... but one minor thing has been driving me nuts. The key on the bottom plate does not stay flush against the body. It flops up/down on its own. The plate has not un-locked itself (yet?), but the film bodies have much more solid engagement and I'm curious if this is normal for a digital M or if my key is loose. 😆

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Yeah, definitely not normal. This should be fixed. 

[graphlex]

1 hour ago, Al Brown said:

Absolutely NOT normal. Should stay tight and inside the slot.

 

Suggests they’re getting bored with the baseplate design. Time to change it then. 

[huntca]

57 minutes ago, Steven said:

In the meantime, I found a quick fix. I ordered a roll of transparent double sided tape. Cut a small piece and left it under the key that moves. It’s strong enough to hold it in place. Also, even though I’ve removed the plate countless times, I haven’t changed the piece of tape in over two months and it still works perfectly. 

it seems like a detail, but it used to drive me mad and ruin my shooting experience. 

I had a similar idea, although my tape is black instead of clear, but I'm likely going to just pick up a grip and toss the bottom plate back in the box for now.

[Pixeleater]

I agree with posts that say the owner can do what they want to their camera. There is no right or wrong, just opinions.

I appreciate an organic change of appearance more than manipulated and accelerated change of appearance. The time and travel stories that accompany a worn camera body are what appeals to to me and feeds my appreciation for organic COA.

[IkarusJohn]

2 hours ago, Pixeleater said:

I agree with posts that say the owner can do what they want to their camera. There is no right or wrong, just opinions.

I appreciate an organic change of appearance more than manipulated and accelerated change of appearance. The time and travel stories that accompany a worn camera body are what appeals to to me and feeds my appreciation for organic COA.

Of course people can do what they like with their cameras, and others can express opinions about them - whether appreciating the look, or not so much.  There is only a small group using the word “haters”.

[davorb]

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I sent mine in under warranty last week to fix the shutter issue

[Stevejack]

On 10/16/2021 at 2:32 AM, Steven said:

And I think I’ve already posted that, but LeicaFai is trying to buy me mine. The man who can source any rare leica product you ask him for wants my artificially brassed M10R! Too funny. 

This is a pretty bizarre thread... In most hobbies, custom mods might not add value, but it will always find a buyer who appreciates it. I don't think I've ever seen a brand new motorcycle kept stock off the line... bits are changed, paint is modified, holes are drilled... you can't ride all the time so you tinker with it in the shed and make it look different to all the others on the road just for the hell of it and no-one bats an eye. I can't see a single reason why anyone would be against someone modifying a camera to suit them be it aesthetically or otherwise. You've got to carry this thing every day you might as well make it a little bit more interesting to look at.  

I love the brassed look, not because it looks old just because it looks interesting. There are enough pristine Leicas sitting in drawers or up on a shelf somewhere for those who want to buy a bone stock camera on the used market and you're not spitting in anyones face by modifying it. 

It's a digital camera, you've got MAYBE 7-8 years of use before it's well and truly outdated, and within that time it will probably be used less and less as newer cameras take over your shooting time. You're not going to be handing this down to any grandkids like a mechanical film camera, electronics date fast that's just how it is. Good on you Steve for sticking to your guns, keeping it respectful in your replies, and for what it's worth I think you did a pretty decent job with the cosmetic mods. I can absolutely see why you might have interested buyers.

 

[Mikep996]

It's true that folks are always modifying cars/motorcycles BUT, having been in the car/moto mod/performance business, regardless of the mod, it inevitably reduces the resale value of the vehicle - often considerably.  With rare exceptions, folks don't want/trust "YOUR" modifications; they want to do their own.  Most of us make whatever mods because we want to and don't care about resale value.  BUT to me the interesting part of this is that apparently, if I read right, the artificially-brassed new camera is worth more than an out-of-the-box (pristine) new one?  Now THAT is definitely in the bizarro world!  Of course, nowadays the bizarro world seems to be the one we live in.

Anyway, as has been pointed out, if you own something, it's your business what you do to it.  For me, I have never cared for the brassed camera look. I might be thinking about finding some matching black paint and get out my air brush!    

 

[Stevejack]

Yeah it’s definitely not for everyone. I like a plain black camera + lens, I usually wear a black shirt and pants when I shoot street. The camera practically disappears until I raise it to my eye. But I like mods in general and always appreciate someone experimenting with their gear and sharing the results.    
I think 000 steel wool might be worth a go to get some feathering in the paint / brass transition. 

[Ponnefaxen]

To anyone who uses the M10-R black paint: Does the material scratch more easily than for example black chrome? Im not talking about the brassing here, more like tiny scratches and such.

[Wonzo]

vor 4 Minuten schrieb Ponnefaxen:

To anyone who uses the M10-R black paint: Does the material scratch more easily than for example black chrome? Im not talking about the brassing here, more like tiny scratches and such.

I have my BP since June 2021 and I use it almost on a daily basis. No scatches or anything else. But you have fingerprints on it easily compared to black chrome. Nothing more.

[jakontil]

10 hours ago, Ponnefaxen said:

To anyone who uses the M10-R black paint: Does the material scratch more easily than for example black chrome? Im not talking about the brassing here, more like tiny scratches and such.

Due to its nature, i believe so

[fabior]

it's still early for me to answer ... I bought a new M10R BP 5 days ago ... but I'm already in love with it ... and it still has no marks .... it's very beautiful and the images are very satisfying. But , I believe is more delicate .

[strohscw]

vor 15 Stunden schrieb Ponnefaxen:

To anyone who uses the M10-R black paint: Does the material scratch more easily than for example black chrome? Im not talking about the brassing here, more like tiny scratches and such.

I think that if it were purely about a more durable black finish, then I would have bought the black chrome M10R. The M10R BP has just in the lower abrasion resistance its charm, when the brass shines through the wear has for many, including me, a special charm. Some even use sand paper to artificially accelerate this "aging".
So, yes paint is not as abrasion resistant as chrome plating.
 

Edited January 17, 2022 by strohscw

[BlueIn2Red]

The black paint is deliberately (and bizarrely imo) soft, in order to facilitate “brassing”. So yes, it scratches very easily. If that bothers you, buy a BP camera as a shelf queen only, at which they excel!

[Fedro]

mine had a small pebble of paint come off - it is soft but actually quite thick

[Wonzo]

vor 23 Minuten schrieb BlueIn2Red:

The black paint is deliberately (and bizarrely imo) soft, in order to facilitate “brassing”. So yes, it scratches very easily. If that bothers you, buy a BP camera as a shelf queen only, at which they excel!

„Ponnefaxen“ asked about scatching, not about brassing. After 6 month I don`t see a single scatch on my BP, but without question it brasses more easily than a BC, as the paint is said to be softer. But still, I have no „natural“ brassing, although I use my BP almost on a daily basis.

Years ago I owned a M 240 BP for about two years. No scatches, no brassing until I sold the camera.

Edited January 17, 2022 by Wonzo

[Tp2000]

I've had mine since they first came out and despite being carried over my shoulder very regularly, no scratches or brassing at all.

At the same time that I got the camera, I got thumbs up black paint thumb grip - that has brassed over the same time from the wear rubbing against clothing (vs other parts of the camera also in contact haven't). So I'd say whilst it shows finger prints up, its actually more durable than I'd have thought ahead of getting it. 

 

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[Łëïčä]

On 1/17/2022 at 1:24 AM, Ponnefaxen said:

To anyone who uses the M10-R black paint: Does the material scratch more easily than for example black chrome? Im not talking about the brassing here, more like tiny scratches and such.

Mine scratched on the second day next to the shutter button.

it has many more scratches now, especially the bottom plate of course. 
 

The glossy finish will scratch a lot easier than the regular finish. 

Edited January 21, 2022 by Łëïčä