Leica SL2s ,M-lenses, Multi shot shooting

[dpitt]

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Sorry to see you had issues with M lenses on SL2. I do not own a SL2 yet, but am reading in...

This is one year old, so maybe the issue is resolved? Can you shoot M lenses wide open with good results now? Do you really achieve focus at infinity just a little before the infinity mark? And why is this not visible in the EVF?

In some other threads I read about internal vibration issues with the SL camera's (vibration/resonance caused by shutter). If I remember correctly this was between 1/60 and 1/160.

Did you play with different shutter times, maybe using ISO settings to move out of this zone without changing aperture?

Edited December 10, 2022 by dpitt
Asked if this is solved one year later

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On 6/4/2021 at 10:49 AM, Khun Hans said:

All images were taken at infinity on SL2S

at the hard stop of infinity or just before the hard stop?

could also be related to this? >

 

[Paul2660]

When shooting MS, the only shutter used is the E shutter, and IBIS, no mechanical shutter is in use. 

The key to MS on either the SL2 or SL2-S, IMO is making sure you have a solid mounted camera to a tripod, and use the 12 second delay to the exposure. Do not use the artifacts correction either.  If you have motion in the subject, MS is not a good solution. 

The other massively important issues is correct focus.  If you are just a tad off exact focus, do not expect a good image with MS with either camera. 

I would not consider using a M lens wide open as a good solution for MS (for that matter any lens wide open), instead consider stopping down. 

I use MS often with both the SL2 and SL2-S, with mixed results.  I have found that many times I have to use manual focus with peaking to get the best result, especially in low light.  MS also has issues with what I call subject shimmer (where you see the effect of heat shimmer on your subject), this will render a MS image pretty much non useable. 

Lens I work with are all the SL zooms, and I have had good results with all of them. 

I also tend to down res the MS shot to around ranges from 12000 x 8000 to 14000 x 11000.  This gives you between a 100MP to 150MP image. 

When you are working with the raw file you need to add considerable sharpening also.  More than you would to a normal raw from either camera. 

But the key is exact focus, time of day, 12 second delay (added in later versions of camera firmware), and a stable tripod. 

 

Paul 

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, Paul2660 said:

The key to MS on either the SL2 or SL2-S, IMO is making sure you have a solid mounted camera to a tripod, and use the 12 second delay to the exposure. Do not use the artifacts correction either.  If you have motion in the subject, MS is not a good solution. 

Why is that? In my limited testing, artifact correction worked nicely and is almost mandatory when shooting outside. There will be some resolution degradation, but only where motion occurs. That is better than having motion artifacts.

 

1 hour ago, Paul2660 said:

 MS also has issues with what I call subject shimmer (where you see the effect of heat shimmer on your subject), this will render a MS image pretty much non useable.

Thanks for that.

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It is an old thread but I wonder if the OP had a bad L Adaptor M, and it couldn’t quite achieve proper infinity focus?

 

[Khun Hans]

I don't remember all that. Meanwhile I use a M11 with a Summilux 1,4/35 ASPH, APO Summicron 50mm and a Summarit 90mm. Sold the SL 2s and the SL2 and work with Canon R5 and Canon lenses for Landscapes mostly. 

Pic= M11, APO Summicron 2/50

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Edited December 11, 2022 by Khun Hans
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I still have an M10 with a decent selection of M lenses, in addition to an SL2-S with a wide assortment of native L mount lenses including SL zooms and primes. I gave the M lenses a try on the SL2-S since I had them around but gave up using them on my SL2-S after experimenting for only a few days. It’s just not worth it, at least for me who mostly shoot wide (24mm).

I’m aware that the newest M lenses like the APO 35 M, and more recent generation telephoto APO 75/90/135 M lenses perform well on the SL bodies but the older (10+year) M lenses, especially wide angle lenses, they just do not perform nearly as well on the SL2-S compared to native L-mount lenses that are 1/5th the cost.

For example, the Sigma 24/3.5 DG DN performs better, when stopped down to f/5.6 than the Leica 24/3.8 ASPH M. The Sigma has AF and is nearly disposable when it comes to cost as compared to the Leica M equivalent so I don’t see the point of putting the Elmar-M (which is a fantastic lens on the M body) at risk of damage or loss when I can take a much cheaper, equally well performing lens, plus get AF on the SL2-S.

[garysamson]

This morning I tested the Multi shot mode with my new Leica SL2s camera and Voigtlander APO Lanthar 50mm lens using Leica's L to M adapter. The camera was mounted on a tripod and I used the 12 second exposure delay., the lens was set to f5.6. The resulting file was sharp wit lots of subtle detail - it worked as described.