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Your Leica Products / Deine Leica Produkte
Digilux 2, M2, M8, M9, R8 + DMR
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Why I choose the TL2. Mainly because of price, and I found a really good deal with EVF (020) included. I plan to buy a M10 soon and the same EVF works on the M10 too. When I read more about the CL, I found it is not better in all aspects. Yes I would appreciate that the CL has a built in EVF, but it does not tilt upright as I like to use when doing macro. And when I read this, I started thinking the TL2 is maybe ergonomically the best for me. With the TL2, I never accidentally switch settings, and I like how the buttons are integrated compared to the CL. https://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-CL-mirrorless-digital-camera.html Have a look at page 2 https://www.overgaard.dk/Leica-CL-mirrorless-digital-camera-review-Page-2.html
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On the other hand. You do not have the M yet. Any M, even my old M9 + Summcron 50 F2 would beat the Q2. You would struggle in low light conditions, but when there is enough light there is no contest. And that is without taking into account the joy of using a RF. YMMV The M240 is not much more expensive, and adds LV and EVF capabilities + an extra 1-2 stops in high ISO. And both form a smaller and more portable package than the Q, that is with a tiny lens mounted. These can be had in 28/35/40/50 mm FL. IMO for 50mm it needs to be collapsible to make the 'tiny' grade, but they are all smaller than the lens on the Q2. I can carry the M9 with those lenses in my coat pocket with the lens mounted. The problem with the Q2 is that it has 'trapped' you with its IQ. Now it will be very hard to find a nice portable solution that has acceptable IQ next to it. The only one that I found next to my M9 was my Leica X2, I often go out with M9+50 or even 90mm and the X2 as sidekick for 35mm. I found that the images from the X2 can be just as pleasing as the ones from my M9. I have tried several MFT and other compact solutions over the years, but with all of these I found the results disappointing next to the output of the M9. But as Q2 companion the 35mm eq. Leica X2 makes no sense. Last year I bought my used TL2 and now I finally have a solution for the long end that is a match for the M9. it is about the same size and weight as my M9, but it does tele and macro much better than a rangefinder. It sort of has a 1,5 extender built in.
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Don't forget the TL2 if you want to go cheaper. I agree that a built in EVF has its merits, but both TL2 and CL are one of the best APS-C bodies ever made from IQ perspective. If you want to go the M lenses way on both, then you get a very compact and powerful package. I like using vintage lenses on my TL2. The Summicron 35v3 F2.0 works really nice as a 50mm solution and I use an Elmarit-M 21 mm F2.8 as a '35eq.' on it. Look here where I posted some results with the 21 mm For Macro, zooms and tele lenses, the Leica R lenses give a lot of value for the money at about a third of the price of their M counterparts. They are not as compact as M lenses, but they feel tiny compared to the SL or even TL equivalents. To be clear, none of the M or R lenses have AF or IS.
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Your reason to switch to Leica was in part the weight and size of your Nikon gear. The natural solution would be to switch to a used M system. It will cover everything the Q does and more. With a tiny M lens it is even smaller than the Q while the IQ is even better. With anything from the M240 you have an EVF to use longer lenses than 90mm comfortably. It depends how much time you want to spend with really long and big lenses. The comfort zone with the M ends at around 135mm, anything larger is SL territory, unless you just want to get a job done occasionally. +1 it was a big mistake from Leica to kill the APS-C high quality line... I hope they are have a FF compact system camera with built in EVF tin the pipeline. Problem is that for someone selling Nikon gear because of weight and size, using a SL and SL zoom will be even heavier. No question that you will like the handling and IQ of the SL but taking it on a long hike or even city walk is nothing for me. The CL will be a much better travel companion to your Q and the crop factor of 1,5 helps keeping weight and size down of the lenses. My TL2 has the same sensor and capabilities and is less expensive on the used market. I often take it with a nice tiny M lens, or with the lightweight and excellent Lumix 20-60 S lens which is 30-90 mm eq on the CL/TL2. With the excellent external EVF it is a serious competitor for the CL. I do not like the 'iPhone way' to take pictures. The TL2 is even more flexible and compact with its external EVF and can produce the same results e.g. it can be used with the EVF tilted upwards which can not be done with the CL.
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Cosmetic not optical question about Summicron-M 50mm v.4
dpitt replied to F456's topic in Leica M Lenses
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My solution would be to unscrew the focus knob lock. I do not see much use for locking on a modern camera anyway. You will need a special 'screw driver' bit to do that. Either make it to measure from an old flat screw driver bit, or buy one from a specialized shop. And then you can remove the knob and spring inside, leaving the bottom part to use as a tab. Of course you keep the parts carefully to restore the lens to its current state in case you want to sell it later on.
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50mm f1.5 Summarit or 50mm Summicron(V1, rigid)
dpitt replied to Herman Zhang's topic in Leica M Lenses
Comparing a modern Zeiss with a 60 year old Leica is a bit strange. Not even the price range matches. The Summarit wins the price race. The Rigid wins the rendering race IMO, althoug I do not have experience with Zeiss in general, I generally prefer the Summicrons 'look' of both v1 an v2 over the cooler Zeiss. YMMV The Summicron v1 wins as the best compromise IQ/price and value for money IMO. And on top of that it is collapsible and very compact and light. Take your time to find one. Samples with a nice front element are hard too find, but worth the trouble. -
I would only do this if the sensor is really unusable for you. There is a degree of corrosion that is not visible when using lenses wide open. Once you start the 'operation' there is no way back. If it fails you end up with a dead sensor that is beyond repair. Even the professionals have accidents occasionally. I saw a few dead M9s on ebay. Of course they pay back the fee for the repair but bottom line is that your M9 is only good for parts after that.
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@ktmrider2 You still leave the main question unanswered. Why did you switch for digital from the M240 to the X-T5. And why do you want to dive into the digital Ms apart from the economic and convenience aspect ? All these are true, but it is up to the OP to indicate how important each aspect is for him. He may or may not see other advantages or issues too. I am not sure each digital M generation/camera is by definition an improvement on every aspect for everybody.
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+1 The same goes for focusing, from loose to careful.
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I still own a M9 and M8 now. And I have been using an M8 since 2010 and an M9 since 2015. I am on the same page as @JoshuaRothman regarding the value thing. Both of my M's were bought used, and when a newer model was available. I even could afford a brand new M9 because I upgraded my first M8 to a M9 because of the infamous coffee stain issue. When I got my brand new M9 in 2013 it was so valuable that I was afraid to carry it around everywhere, so I never used it and traded it for a nice used M8, and used the extra money to buy a nice used lens. It was only a few years later that I found a M9 with heavy signs of use which is still mine now. You have owned the M9 and MP240. Why did you sell them? What are you looking for in the M10R or M11 that the MP240 did not do? I think these are important questions. I am still happy with what my M9 delivers. And even the M8 could keep me happy today. Although I have been looking forward to owning an EVF capable M since the M240 was released, I could not justify the cost of the upgrade until now. I am thinking of an upgrade to a M10, but I do not feel the need to look further. In fact, going beyond 24MP could bring a whole set of other concerns like storage, post processing power of your computer hardware, resolution of my current set of lenses, etc... So my short answer is that any digital M is worth its price now. In case of older ones, it holds the risk of total loss when it develops a serious issue, but that risk is reflected in the price. Leica usually supports older models up to 10 years after release in full and a bit beyond that as far as spare part stock goes. The M10R will reach that 'no service' point a few years earlier than a M11. Either one has the potential to last for 20 years from today without issues.
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This. Shoe horned ... it feels the same as using the EVF or a reflex. Yes, you can preview before taking it too the eye. It is what happens when you have the camera to the eye which makes the RF so unique to me. The Leica 28mm external VF helps and I prefer it too, but of course even that is not the same when you need to focus first with the RF and then switch to the external VF. Maybe the only really good 28mm solution is the 0.58 RF that can be custom ordered on some film models.
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For me the true rangefinder experience includes seeing outside the frame. Even without glasses you can not do that with 28mm. You could shoot with a 28mm external optical view finder. As long as you do not need to focus like with zone focus, that will be much more comfortable. This is one of the reasons that I do not like 28mm on my M9. I would rather use a 21 mm with OVF, or use a 35mm or even 40mm with 35mm frames. Since I wear glasses now, that is a no-brainer to me. 35mm or 50mm is best, a Summicron 40C is a good compromise if you like vintage rendering. I have mine modified to bring up 35mm frames and that works great. YMMV With todays PP software stitching is very easy, so for static subjects 2 portrait mode 35 or 40 mm will do if the scene can not fit inside a 35mm frame.
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I thought I was getting the hang of the rangefinder but ...
dpitt replied to FlickM's topic in Leica M (Type 240 / 262)
I am not sure. See below. Sunhood seems to be a common way of translating the Dutch word "zonnekap" to English (literally). So I often see it on the English version of Dutch camera sites in Belgium and the Netherlands. e.g. https://www.kamera-express.be/fujifilm-lh-gf63-sunhood-voor-gf-63mm-f-2-8 and https://fotorobert.be/nl/product/454451/canon/sunhood-et-63 I was not aware it sounded strange for you guys. Thanks for letting me know. I will try to use lens hood next time 👍
