nicci78 Posted August 25, 2020 Share #161 Posted August 25, 2020 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) 37 minutes ago, ramarren said: Wow. A topic about a firmware update that's talking about the difference between nominal focal length and actual focal length. "Thread drift..." Nominal marked focal length is usually within +/-5% of the actual focal length, measured at infinity. Far as I'm aware, it's always been that way. If you can actually see the difference between a 48.9 and a 52.4 mm lens, you have better eyes than I do or are just being a mite OCD. LOL! G it is just because I notice the difference in field of view between Q and Q2 50mm crop mode (50mm equivalent) and Summilux-TL 35mm (52.5mm equivalent) Then I also noticed the slight difference between Summicron-R 50mm (79mm equivalent) against Q2 75mm crop mode (75mm equivalent) The difference is noticeable at every distance. No need for trained eyes. Just side by side, you will get more field of view with 50mm and 75mm crop mode. That's why I started investigating the subject. Edited August 25, 2020 by nicci78 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gteague Posted August 25, 2020 Share #162 Posted August 25, 2020 19 minutes ago, nicci78 said: Exif it totally dependant of camera manufacturers. Whatever is written in it, will be passed to you. It is quite logical to use the marketing name in the Exif. Otherwise you will be confused. I use the "real" focal length, because it will impact the multiplication. The more you multiply, the bigger the gap will be. 52/78/98/140 just automatically looks weird when the rounded versions would be standard fl's of: 50/75/100/135. and i would use all those latter figures in casual use and in the field. but i appreciate having the actual figures as well and can see several real world uses for having them. again, it's a very useful chart and it's easy enough for those familiar with 35mm to round them to get closest to classic focal lengths. /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 25, 2020 Share #163 Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, nicci78 said: [...] So for clarity there are other charts [...] Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! So 50mm lenses become 52 but 35mm remain 35, 28mm remain 28 and so on? Why not 36, 29...? Seems like those equivalent things are driving me crazy . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted August 25, 2020 Share #164 Posted August 25, 2020 Sorry for this simple question - if you have your CL set to EVF, but you use this new "screen driven" way of changing things on the LCD, how do you easily access the LCD? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted August 25, 2020 Share #165 Posted August 25, 2020 16 minutes ago, geoffreyg said: Sorry for this simple question - if you have your CL set to EVF, but you use this new "screen driven" way of changing things on the LCD, how do you easily access the LCD? The status screen is only shown if you press the Menu button. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted August 25, 2020 Share #166 Posted August 25, 2020 1 hour ago, geoffreyg said: Sorry for this simple question - if you have your CL set to EVF, but you use this new "screen driven" way of changing things on the LCD, how do you easily access the LCD? If you mean a CL set to EVF only, press the Menu button to display the status screen, select the User profile icon with the arrows and chose a profile. Not a profile set to EVF only though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 25, 2020 Share #167 Posted August 25, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) By putting the LCD/EVF control under the Fn button. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 26, 2020 Share #168 Posted August 26, 2020 You're way too worried about numbers. All these equivalences and now nominal vs actual focal length. Just go out and make photos, learn what a camera sees, then use that to advantage. That's what's important. G 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #169 Posted August 26, 2020 i do know. for 8mm up to about 2-1/4x2-3/4, 4x5 and 8x10. film. and really only 35mm and maybe the 2-1/4x was necessary to learn maybe a half-dozen each as it wasn't or isn't like there are dozens of focal lengths even available for most of the other formats. and once you knew 50mm for 35mm, you'd know what a 12,25,100, and 200 would act like. and it's not like anyone was using medium or large format lenses on their slrs. and the rangefinders i used only about two brands even had interchangeable lenses. so yes, digital is a different ball game and i appreciate being able to mix and match. and i appreciate even more not having to count the cost of each frame--i've probably missed a million shots in the film days simply because i couldn't afford film or processing. but i'm a data-oriented person as 45 years in tech jobs proves. so no, i go into hardly nothing blindly hoping to learn through numbers of photos shot. /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 26, 2020 Share #170 Posted August 26, 2020 8 hours ago, geoffreyg said: Sorry for this simple question - if you have your CL set to EVF, but you use this new "screen driven" way of changing things on the LCD, how do you easily access the LCD? If you set your Display preferences to EVF only and press the Menu button, the control panel is displayed. You navigate the control panel with the four-way controller pad, pressing the OK button to select options, and then the submenus operate with the four-way controller and OK button as well. I just tried it. I like using it this way better than I like using it as a touch screen control... G 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #171 Posted August 26, 2020 i don't use the touch, as you know. but i might be interested in using this evf only mode. does hitting the /menu/ key still cycle through /info/, /favorites/, and then /menu/ if used this way? or can you dismiss the /info/ screen after changing something on it? /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted August 26, 2020 Share #172 Posted August 26, 2020 The INFO screen is a permanent part of the firmware 4 cycle of menus and cannot be disabled. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #173 Posted August 26, 2020 i thought as much. tks for the confirmation. /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 26, 2020 Share #174 Posted August 26, 2020 But you can "dismiss" it by either pushing the Menu button or tapping the Menu icon on the lower righthand side (horizontal stripes). That will take you to the full menu which you can use as before. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffreyg Posted August 26, 2020 Share #175 Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, ramarren said: If you set your Display preferences to EVF only and press the Menu button, the control panel is displayed. You navigate the control panel with the four-way controller pad, pressing the OK button to select options, and then the submenus operate with the four-way controller and OK button as well. I just tried it. I like using it this way better than I like using it as a touch screen control... G Seems like it’s all a bit easier. Thanks for this! Edited August 26, 2020 by geoffreyg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #176 Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) what is the evf extended option? i couldn't see any immediate difference when i selected it. on my walk this evening i'm taking the 75/2.4 on the cl to test drive my new digital teleconverter. all these are approximate off the top of my head (wait! i'll go back and look at the handy chart and edit). the 75 is like a 105 on apc and then it should become like a 135-150 at 1.3x and maybe a 180 at 1.7x. a 180/2.4 is nothing to sneeze out if the quality will hold up. ah! better than i estimated. the 75 becomes approx a 110-115 on the cl, then approx a 135 at 1.3x and nearly exactly 200 at 1.7x. i suspect i won't be able to hold steady at the 1.3-1.7x settings though. but for those who can and can tolerate any image loss, it makes an excellent telephoto set. /guy Edited August 26, 2020 by gteague Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #177 Posted August 26, 2020 (edited) Quote I have taken the first pair with the 40mm Summicron-C (which is, of course, the proper lens to use on a CL). this is the truest comment i've seen on any photo forum! bravo mate! i couldn't figure out how to quote without the images, but this was from 'pop' who posted a shot using said lens. and i'd like to have one as well--i'll start looking on ebay and see what i can find. anything in particular to look out for? different versions of it? tks. /guy Edited August 26, 2020 by gteague 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted August 26, 2020 Share #178 Posted August 26, 2020 There is a Minolta version with slightly better coating. Most are in good condition, but many need tightening of the ring that holds the optical cell to the barrel - a 10-second DIY job. Try and find one with the original rubber hood - it has a weird filter thread (the Leica version). The lens hood takes a series 5.5 filter. The Minolta lens has a regular 36 mm filter AFAIK. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gteague Posted August 26, 2020 Share #179 Posted August 26, 2020 22 minutes ago, jaapv said: There is a Minolta version with slightly better coating. Most are in good condition, but many need tightening of the ring that holds the optical cell to the barrel - a 10-second DIY job. Try and find one with the original rubber hood - it has a weird filter thread (the Leica version). The lens hood takes a series 5.5 filter. The Minolta lens has a regular 36 mm filter AFAIK. tks. slim pickings on ebay unless you want to order from japan. but i have other places to check yet. /guy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted August 26, 2020 Share #180 Posted August 26, 2020 The rubber hood on mine just fell apart. Rubber hoods are firmware, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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