intermediatic Posted June 20, 2020 Share #81 Posted June 20, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry but what am I missing here. How do I turn off "motion artifacts correction," I have been through the menus 10 times and have not seen it. I was expecting much more time with the camera and then wound up not using it at all during the COVID crisis until this weekend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Hi intermediatic, Take a look here Leica SL2 Firmware 2.0: 187 MP Multishot Mode. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
SrMi Posted June 20, 2020 Share #82 Posted June 20, 2020 29 minutes ago, intermediatic said: Sorry but what am I missing here. How do I turn off "motion artifacts correction," I have been through the menus 10 times and have not seen it. I was expecting much more time with the camera and then wound up not using it at all during the COVID crisis until this weekend. Drive mode in the menu, select Multi-Shot, you see 2 options: Self Timer and Motion artefacts correction, 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted June 21, 2020 Share #83 Posted June 21, 2020 There are still missing improvements . Able to just a focal length for IBIS there is still a problem with non electronic adapters, you can still use P and S with auto ISO problems, when using M to L adapter 6bit only M and A works. Sigma adapter in video and Bust not fix power issue. When in Video mode often I use EF lenses to pull focus, but need to use external power. I am happy to report that they fixed the USB-C battery issues. But why do I need to use more batteries when the main battery present? The Multishot is not selectable in FOTOS for iPad app. you can do a camera selection, but it keeps jumping out to single shot. Fotos for iPad is till slow to refresh preview, sometime AF stops working, and many times the connection drops and it is hard to get it back. I like Leica to deliver a display LUT for monitoring in camera L-LOG, and have some LUT's for L-LOG to rec.709 and finally the AF needs to be improved... I like to see a 2.1 update super then 6 months Happy shooting! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffWright Posted June 21, 2020 Share #84 Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Photoworks said: There are still missing improvements . there is still a problem with non electronic adapters, you can still use P and S with auto ISO problems, when using M to L adapter 6bit only M and A works. I like to see a 2.1 update super then 6 months Happy shooting! Uh, P and S modes are impossible on M lenses, since the aperture is set manually on the lens and there is no electronic or mechanical communication of the set aperture to the body. Thus it is only possible to have A and M modes with an M to L adapter. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
intermediatic Posted June 21, 2020 Share #85 Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, SrMi said: Drive mode in the menu, select Multi-Shot, you see 2 options: Self Timer and Motion artefacts correction, Thanks! That explains why I was thinking I'd lost my mind. I'd only used the quick menu to switch to Multi-Shot. I wish this firmware hadn't messed up Fotos so bad. I have Fotos Pro and downloading or even viewing images on the card is now impossible. Not sure what happened there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 21, 2020 Share #86 Posted June 21, 2020 6 hours ago, FlashGordonPhotography said: Why? Functionally they're near identical. Same basic operation and limitations. What makes you think the Leica is more complex? Gordon I'll put together a post on this (tonight) but the short answer is that when I review the results at 100 to 200 per cent, the Leica version is cleaner and has removed artifacts at sharp edges. Now the only stairsteps are at 4X the original resolution. And the running time to collect the information and transform it back to the original frame of reference is longer with the Leica version. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drhaojulo Posted June 21, 2020 Share #87 Posted June 21, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) I can't using the Auto Magnification when using M lens after updating new firmware, Anyone have the same situation or maybe I forget something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 21, 2020 Share #88 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) Here is another workaround for the work inhibiting movement message. The viewer, that has been already handy with the Leica II, does its job well for composing. Alas, it is only giving me a 50mm frameline. Well, I have an old VIDOM finder, somewhere. That will sport multi framelines and I can correct for parallax. Working in multi shot mode is a breeze with the right aid at hand P.S. The image is not clear because of camera shake. Sorry for that 🤡 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited June 21, 2020 by Arrow Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/310699-leica-sl2-firmware-20-187-mp-multishot-mode/?do=findComment&comment=3996629'>More sharing options...
michali Posted June 21, 2020 Share #89 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, SrMi said: My 24-90 produces great results with 47Mp, but mediocre results with multishot. Multishot results with M-lenses (35mm, 90mm) are stunning! Maybe I need to send my 24-90 in for service :(. Maybe I need to use a beefier tripod with the larger 24-90. Motion artifact correction works very well for leaves moving in the wind. +1. I found exactly the same yesterday, both with the VE 24-90mm as well as the Sigma 135mm f1.8, at f5.6 and at f8 with both lenses. I don't think it's your lens or the tripod. I'm sure there's something else going on here. I used both a tripod and a bean bag on a table, results were the same, mediocre. Subject was static, a bronze sculpture. The results @ 47MP were far superior to the Multishot mode. I'll try again with a couple of M lenses today and report back. FWIW I'd given up on Multishot mode after trying it out when I had the S1R. See my comments here: Edited June 21, 2020 by michali Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted June 21, 2020 Share #90 Posted June 21, 2020 15 hours ago, SrMi said: I don't mind the message at all, in fact I almost never see it. My workflow: - assign Drive mode to a function button for quick switch between single (default) and multi-shot - frame and set exposure on tripod - turn on multi-shot, select "Motion artifacts correction" on/off, take an image, and switch back to single shot. I understand that my workflow does not fit everybody. I need one clarification. Why turning off ''motion artifacts correction ''' in multi-shot ? Not very clear to me thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 21, 2020 Share #91 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Luca said: I need one clarification. Why turning off ''motion artifacts correction ''' in multi-shot ? Not very clear to me thanks with that setting on, highlight areas come in an ugly, smeary, greenish/yellowish cast. Edited June 21, 2020 by Arrow 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luca Posted June 21, 2020 Share #92 Posted June 21, 2020 thanks I was not aware of this. But this is valid for all long exposure photos, I mean landscape photos where you need 5-20 seconds, regardless from multi-shot ? Or this si valid only when using multi-.shot ? thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 21, 2020 Share #93 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Luca said: I need one clarification. Why turning off ''motion artifacts correction ''' in multi-shot ? Not very clear to me thanks I think I will leave it on, but am still trying to check. It provides a little extra sharpening (since when compared to the higher resolution, our pixels are now slightly fuzz and overlapping) and it does pick the strongest contribution for something that moves and bring the extra copies to the same point. Motion correction does take an extra five seconds per shot. I have not yet encountered the smearing and color stain in highlights in multi-shot. Edited June 21, 2020 by scott kirkpatrick 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 21, 2020 Share #94 Posted June 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Luca said: thanks I was not aware of this. But this is valid for all long exposure photos, I mean landscape photos where you need 5-20 seconds, regardless from multi-shot ? Or this si valid only when using multi-.shot ? thanks again Multi shot is limited to one second max. Long exposure wise, I did not have such a issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted June 21, 2020 Share #95 Posted June 21, 2020 From the comments on this and the other 16 threads on firmware 2.0, I suspect: This was a bit rushed. We've had to wait through 2-3 months of serious disruption and Leica wants to show they are moving again, so they focused on completing what must have been a significant amount of work on multi-shot. But there are many rough edges (stuff in user profiles that doesn't transfer properly, for example). And promised features that are not here yet (e.g. linear focusing at selected rates). And problems that seem to spread across the boundary between the SL2 and Fotos. So thank you, Leica, for getting back into action. Next we hope to see monthly updates as the rest of the list of to do's gets worked on. And I would suggest that you run a quiet beta test on things that are still a month or more away from release to get more user reactions and to encounter more shooting environments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Warwick Posted June 21, 2020 Share #96 Posted June 21, 2020 45 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said: I have not yet encountered the smearing and color stain in highlights in multi-shot. +1. I haven’t seen that at all in the images I have taken Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktenschrank Posted June 21, 2020 Share #97 Posted June 21, 2020 3 hours ago, Jon Warwick said: +1. I haven’t seen that at all in the images I have taken I´ve been experimenting a little more with this and I noticed that I mostly see this appearing whenever I use ISO 50. Same shot, same equivalent exposure using ISO 100 does usually not show artefacts. So it maybe has something to do with ISO being a slightly pulled ISO... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 21, 2020 Share #98 Posted June 21, 2020 32 minutes ago, Aktenschrank said: I´ve been experimenting a little more with this and I noticed that I mostly see this appearing whenever I use ISO 50. Same shot, same equivalent exposure using ISO 100 does usually not show artefacts. So it maybe has something to do with ISO being a slightly pulled ISO... Interesting. In my case Kermit the Frog smearing actually occurred when shooting at ISO 50. Is ISO 50 pulled in the case of the SL2? I thought it is native like it was in the case of the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aktenschrank Posted June 21, 2020 Share #99 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Arrow said: Interesting. In my case Kermit the Frog smearing actually occurred when shooting at ISO 50. Is ISO 50 pulled in the case of the SL2? I thought it is native like it was in the case of the SL. There's been some debate on this in the past obviously. From my personal experiments the real native ISO o the SL2 is somewhere between 70-80 and ISO 50 is definitely pulled. I do get slightly cleaner files when using it if properly underexposing the images when shooting (underexposed by 2/3 stop) and lifting exposure in post though. That's why I still like to use it sometimes when I can take my time while shooting. Edited June 21, 2020 by Aktenschrank Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrow Posted June 21, 2020 Share #100 Posted June 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Aktenschrank said: There's been some debate on this in the past obviously. From my personal experiments the real native ISO o the SL2 is somewhere between 70-80 and ISO 50 is definitely pulled. I do get slightly cleaner files when using it if properly underexposing the images when shooting (underexposed by 2/3 stop) and lifting exposure in post though. That's why I still like to use it sometimes when I can take my time while shooting. Interesting. I also tend to rather underexpose to get better results. Did not know why. It just proved to give better results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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