decurion99 Posted March 24, 2020 Share #61 Posted March 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Vincent I am fully aware of the Leica quality. I am a big fan. I have multiple M lenses, incl. the Noctilux, 50 APO M, Summiluxes and the SL2 and multiple lenses, incl. the APO SLs. It is just a fact though, that the S system is a LOT less wide spread amongst professional studios than Phase One and Hasselblad. Not gonna recite all the reasons for this. What I was told what was said was is that the S camera is mostly bought by well off enthusiasts and people already owning an SL or M. And it is also the reality that most of those "enthusiasts" shoot mundane subjects with their expensive S camera because it is just not their job to setup shoots, pay for models, location scouts, stylists, etc. And most of them have an intensive job, so time is scarce! So what you end up is dog, flower, and kid pics with an odd landscape here and there. Nothing wrong with that! Photography has been commoditised and is a wide spread hobby and the money for the companies nowadays lies with the enthusiast segment, all I am saying! Thanks 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 24, 2020 Posted March 24, 2020 Hi decurion99, Take a look here Let's have a look at some DNG files from the S3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Stuart Richardson Posted March 24, 2020 Share #62 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Honestly, I could not care less what anyone else does with it, or who else shoots with it. I am looking forward to getting one at some point and putting it to work. Professionally. Nor do I care about any videos or presentations about it. Often "pro" geared publications and ad campaigns are ridiculous and generally filled with boring and often misogynist and/or racially problematic glossy imagery. If this is "pro", it is intensely boring. Edited March 24, 2020 by Stuart Richardson 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted March 24, 2020 Share #63 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Late middle aged. Check. Well-to-do. Check. Amateur. Check. I have a pretty good idea of where I fit in the photography spectrum. I would starve to death if I had to do it for a living, but friends and family are impressed, or are at least polite about it. At a large extended-family function, I met a distant relative who was a retired National Geographic photographer. I mentioned that I did architecture and cityscapes. He said, without enthusiasm, "show me something you like". I brought up Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! HIs shocked "but that's good!" will stay as one of my happiest memories. Oh, S(006), S 35mm. Edited March 24, 2020 by mgrayson3 12 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! HIs shocked "but that's good!" will stay as one of my happiest memories. Oh, S(006), S 35mm. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3938348'>More sharing options...
John Smith Posted March 24, 2020 Share #64 Posted March 24, 2020 45 minutes ago, mgrayson3 said: Late middle aged. Check. Well-to-do. Check. Amateur. Check. I have a pretty good idea of where I fit in the photography spectrum. I would starve to death if I had to do it for a living, but friends and family are impressed, or are at least polite about it. At a large extended-family function, I met a distant relative who was a retired National Geographic photographer. I mentioned that I did architecture and cityscapes. He said, without enthusiasm, "show me something you like". I brought up Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! HIs shocked "but that's good!" will stay as one of my happiest memories. Oh, S(006), S 35mm. I don't know what impressed me more, the photo or schlepping the 006 and S35mm into the WTC. Just kidding. A pretty impressive photograph given the other ones I've seen (and even my own). 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share #65 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Let's show one for color. No DNG this time because I slightly cropped it at the top. It's AWB by the camera left untouched, one of the strengths of the S3, including very accurate colors. Keep in mind, the stuff is behind a window so it may not appear as sharp. Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit as shot, slightly cropped at the top Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 800 f/2.8 @1/180 sec. Same as above processed Edited March 24, 2020 by Chaemono 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 800 f/2.8 @1/180 sec. Same as above processed ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3938450'>More sharing options...
John Smith Posted March 24, 2020 Share #66 Posted March 24, 2020 21 minutes ago, Chaemono said: Let's show one for color. No DNG this time because I slightly cropped it at the top. It's AWB by the camera left untouched, one of the strengths of the S3, including very accurate colors. Keep in mind, the stuff is behind a window so it may not appear as sharp. Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit as shot, slightly cropped at the top Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 800 f/2.8 @1/180 sec. Same as above processed Not that I have a dog in this anymore, I think we'd need to see a comparison of the S3's colors to the S007's to figure things out. Portraits would probably be the best comparison. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jan1985 Posted March 24, 2020 Share #67 Posted March 24, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Yesterday I photographed an old shoe of my grandmother with a Canon 500d and it looks really good and appealing to me. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted March 24, 2020 Share #68 Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) On 3/23/2020 at 12:32 AM, Milan_S said: Well to anybody's taste the images can be edited. My work shows always a vintage styled photoshoot and that's what I do i can edit it totally different, but for this image I prefered the yellowish warm vintage christmas colors. In the original DNG file you can go all ways with the S3 file. the file is quite nice....i bit of "NSFW" detail in the golden hanging ball @xiaubauu2009 and these files are not real 16bit but probably 14bit in a 16bit container [raw digger shows a range only upto 14000 😋😋] Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 24, 2020 by frame-it Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3938584'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share #69 Posted March 25, 2020 vor 5 Stunden schrieb Jan1985: Yesterday I photographed an old shoe of my grandmother with a Canon 500d and it looks really good and appealing to me. We are not supposed to visit our grandparents. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share #70 Posted March 25, 2020 vor 6 Stunden schrieb John Smith: Not that I have a dog in this anymore, I think we'd need to see a comparison of the S3's colors to the S007's to figure things out. Portraits would probably be the best comparison. As I said before, I don’t have an S007 nor portraits that I can post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milan_S Posted March 25, 2020 Share #71 Posted March 25, 2020 15 hours ago, decurion99 said: Vincent I am fully aware of the Leica quality. I am a big fan. I have multiple M lenses, incl. the Noctilux, 50 APO M, Summiluxes and the SL2 and multiple lenses, incl. the APO SLs. It is just a fact though, that the S system is a LOT less wide spread amongst professional studios than Phase One and Hasselblad. Not gonna recite all the reasons for this. What I was told what was said was is that the S camera is mostly bought by well off enthusiasts and people already owning an SL or M. And it is also the reality that most of those "enthusiasts" shoot mundane subjects with their expensive S camera because it is just not their job to setup shoots, pay for models, location scouts, stylists, etc. And most of them have an intensive job, so time is scarce! So what you end up is dog, flower, and kid pics with an odd landscape here and there. Nothing wrong with that! Photography has been commoditised and is a wide spread hobby and the money for the companies nowadays lies with the enthusiast segment, all I am saying! Thanks I use my S professionally and it's the camera I use for serious jobs and clients have been happy with the results and often prefer the outlook of the S files compared to other camera systems. I was even crazy to take the S2 on assignment to Tomorrowland Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 9 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3938760'>More sharing options...
Jan1985 Posted March 25, 2020 Share #72 Posted March 25, 2020 I think here in the forum is a very isolated S user group... I don't from where is the information that not many Pro's use the S-System. That's absolutely wrong! Look here on the S-Magazine Website. They frequently post new editorials of Fashion and Business Photographer that work with the S. http://s-magazine.photography/ceemes/en/home.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiaubauu2009 Posted March 25, 2020 Share #73 Posted March 25, 2020 10 hours ago, frame-it said: the file is quite nice....i bit of "NSFW" detail in the golden hanging ball @xiaubauu2009 and these files are not real 16bit but probably 14bit in a 16bit container [raw digger shows a range only upto 14000 😋😋] Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! actually, I go through the S006 files... sadly they are 14bit too.... so my notiion that all CCD is 16bit is wrong.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share #74 Posted March 25, 2020 (edited) I know what many of you are wondering. Can the S3 actually see in the dark and how clean do pushed ISO 1600 files look when the scene isn't well lighted? This is the best I could do handheld with the 120 Summarit-S @1/125 sec. ISO 1600 pushed files look pretty clean with LR default sharpening of +40 and NR of +25. Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit ISO handheld, as shot but slightly straightened here, WB adjusted in LR. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g225089485-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=_xeQerUdxlJntfZvTKWzZ_VXhiIn9NF-lqNMZgxkm-o= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 1600 f2.5 @1/125 sec Same as above but now with WB adjusted, Exposure +1.73, Contrast +4, Highlights -72, Shadows +80, Whites +2, Blacks -26, Vibrance +15, Saturation -3, NR +25, Sharpening +40 Edited March 25, 2020 by Chaemono 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 1600 f2.5 @1/125 sec Same as above but now with WB adjusted, Exposure +1.73, Contrast +4, Highlights -72, Shadows +80, Whites +2, Blacks -26, Vibrance +15, Saturation -3, NR +25, Sharpening +40 ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3939226'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #75 Posted March 29, 2020 Let's show a couple for sharpness and resolution of detail. Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit wide open as shot handheld. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g736249703-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=dFro7h7dhkBC4YS5bEzloigz2cAAjK--QNcBgFvOIBc= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/1500 sec. Same as above processed and cropped 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/1500 sec. Same as above processed and cropped ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3941752'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #76 Posted March 29, 2020 Focus is on the eye nearest to the camera. 😂 Less compressed JPEG here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit Exposure -0.2, Highlights -100, Sharpening +65, NR +10. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g937037560-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=cBjcjKAQzC1TNvFllaOyewXjizOc9xfgghjBFUJMrSs= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/1500 sec. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/1500 sec. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3941755'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #77 Posted March 29, 2020 And now the crop. Less compressed JPEG here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3941756'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 29, 2020 Author Share #78 Posted March 29, 2020 One for color, and a little bit for skin tones and lens rendering. 😁 No DNG for this one. Less compressed JPEG here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit processed. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/4000 sec. 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/4000 sec. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3941764'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted March 30, 2020 Author Share #79 Posted March 30, 2020 (edited) For sharpness and resolution of detail with the lens wide open, again. Edit - I forgot to mention, focus is on the eye nearest to the camera. 😂 Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit as shot. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g777160958-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=MNBzf5byONe_mOr-c82MAECdRxCGdwyQmtj3RPtmQkA= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/3000 sec. Same as above processed and cropped Edited March 30, 2020 by Chaemono Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/2.5 @1/3000 sec. Same as above processed and cropped ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3943014'>More sharing options...
davidmknoble Posted March 30, 2020 Share #80 Posted March 30, 2020 @Chaemono, now that you have shot a little bit with the S3, what is your opinion of the focus? Not asking about speed, but how well do you feel you get the focus first time... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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