Hans-Dieter Gülicher Posted April 13, 2020 Share #141 Posted April 13, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) With regard to my S3 in the meantime I am using 400 ISO. As to my opinion there is no realy visible difference to 200 ISO for normal practitioners in photographics like me. Greatings Hans Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 13, 2020 Posted April 13, 2020 Hi Hans-Dieter Gülicher, Take a look here Let's have a look at some DNG files from the S3. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #142 Posted April 13, 2020 With the lens stopped down a bit now. Less compressed JPEG here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit processed to taste. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g482514034-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=yOtGGJ8Jz0_cN9bMcS76_L74WrR2Xj-hlYlpRZw6AxY= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/8 @1/500 sec. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/8 @1/500 sec. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3953069'>More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #143 Posted April 13, 2020 One more. Look at that detail. Less compressed JPEG here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ S3 + 120 Summarit processed to taste. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g111216427-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=TIIMKqEyivJq96Uk1yc4dKxS6in2NBLQnjZ0IyosetM= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/5.6 @1/750 sec. 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/5.6 @1/750 sec. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3953071'>More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted April 13, 2020 Share #144 Posted April 13, 2020 very nice color Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 13, 2020 Author Share #145 Posted April 13, 2020 Without being over the top like at times with the X1D. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 15, 2020 Share #146 Posted April 15, 2020 There was a question about how well COne supports the S3 in default profile mode. So here are Chaemono's daffodils rendered by COne 20 (at 50% -- 16 MPx) with no corrections: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! L1001299 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! L1001299 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3954361'>More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted April 15, 2020 Share #147 Posted April 15, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wow. The colors in C1 (on my laptop) looked closer to Adobe Color than Adobe Standard is to Adobe Color. Did that make sense? Anyway, it's damn good at default. Knowing Phase One, they won't allow this to continue! 🙁 I'd like to see some blue sky... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 15, 2020 Share #148 Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) 17 hours ago, mgrayson3 said: Wow. The colors in C1 (on my laptop) looked closer to Adobe Color than Adobe Standard is to Adobe Color. Did that make sense? Anyway, it's damn good at default. Knowing Phase One, they won't allow this to continue! 🙁 I'd like to see some blue sky... Can one of the S3 owners shoot a standard landscape with plenty of sky showing and post the DNG. I'll be happy to run it thorough C1. Edited April 16, 2020 by scott kirkpatrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 16, 2020 Share #149 Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 13 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said: Can one of the S3 owners shoot a standard landscape with plenty of sky showing and post the DNG. I'll be happy to run it thorough C1. To clarify slightly, I think the "how blue is the sky in COne?" question just requries a standard travel shot, morning or afternoon, with the sun behind the photographer and nice clear air. Maybe some puffy white clouds to fix the tonal scale. BTW, in another thread, there was a comment about mastering focus with the 100/2.0. What's that all about? Edited April 16, 2020 by scott kirkpatrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted April 16, 2020 Share #150 Posted April 16, 2020 18 hours ago, scott kirkpatrick said: There was a question about how well COne supports the S3 in default profile mode. So here are Chaemono's daffodils rendered by COne 20 (at 50% -- 16 MPx) with no corrections: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! L1001299 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr C1 is more subdued. I like it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 16, 2020 Author Share #151 Posted April 16, 2020 #142 and #143 are processes to taste in LR, #146 is with no corrections in C1, as stated. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted April 16, 2020 Share #152 Posted April 16, 2020 7 hours ago, Chaemono said: #142 and #143 are processes to taste in LR, #146 is with no corrections in C1, as stated. Yes, and it shows how well C1 interprets the S DNGs even though the system isn't officially supported. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 18, 2020 Author Share #153 Posted April 18, 2020 Am 16.4.2020 um 08:05 schrieb scott kirkpatrick: To clarify slightly, I think the "how blue is the sky in COne?" question just requries a standard travel shot, morning or afternoon, with the sun behind the photographer and nice clear air. Maybe some puffy white clouds to fix the tonal scale. BTW, in another thread, there was a comment about mastering focus with the 100/2.0. What's that all about? Not what you asked for but it was hazy in the morning and then it was cloudy and rainy. Still, something to play around with. S3 + 120 Summarit processed to taste. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g335103754-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=rNWyQmlwHD9j9R01MnyJIVqNDcoUiVcVHR1Rw4qzP7c= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/5.6 @1/750 sec. S3 + 120 Summarit processed. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g48621145-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=uF01IqzqGhdA6OydlWTaNW5Jyiob2odcQyNnOJAsaow= S3 + 120 Summarit processed. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g63420320-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=7NBMZvraDAQNY5caXWtkg008sobni8mTBKkjZq0y0B4= 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 200 f/5.6 @1/750 sec. S3 + 120 Summarit processed. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g48621145-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=uF01IqzqGhdA6OydlWTaNW5Jyiob2odcQyNnOJAsaow= S3 + 120 Summarit processed. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g63420320-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=7NBMZvraDAQNY5caXWtkg008sobni8mTBKkjZq0y0B4= ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3956289'>More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted April 18, 2020 Share #154 Posted April 18, 2020 VERY helpful. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 18, 2020 Share #155 Posted April 18, 2020 The first of the three pictures downloads, but the second and third seem to be defective when I download them. Could you check? These do give the range of daylight sky colors that was asked for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgrayson3 Posted April 18, 2020 Share #156 Posted April 18, 2020 33 minutes ago, scott kirkpatrick said: The first of the three pictures downloads, but the second and third seem to be defective when I download them. Could you check? These do give the range of daylight sky colors that was asked for. I had no trouble opening all three in LR and C1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemono Posted April 19, 2020 Author Share #157 Posted April 19, 2020 vor 5 Stunden schrieb scott kirkpatrick: The first of the three pictures downloads, but the second and third seem to be defective when I download them. Could you check? These do give the range of daylight sky colors that was asked for. Second and third download fine and I can open them in the test version of C1. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted April 19, 2020 Share #158 Posted April 19, 2020 (edited) OK. Got them, thanks. I had to change to a different browser. Smugmug saw that I had failed to download (interrupted) before and was not allowing a second try on Chrome. Here's the one exposed for the sky, processed in C1 v 20, no corrections Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! L1001352 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr and the shot with closed restaurant in the foreground was exposed one stop more, so I corrected things to get similar sky, bring up foreground... L1001309-2 1 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr Edited April 19, 2020 by scott kirkpatrick Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! L1001352 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr and the shot with closed restaurant in the foreground was exposed one stop more, so I corrected things to get similar sky, bring up foreground... L1001309-2 1 by scott kirkpatrick, on Flickr ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/307652-lets-have-a-look-at-some-dng-files-from-the-s3/?do=findComment&comment=3956617'>More sharing options...
Stuart Richardson Posted April 19, 2020 Share #159 Posted April 19, 2020 Thanks for the images. The first one in particular shows how much range it has and how high the quality is of the pixel level detail. That was a big fear for me...more pixels do not really help if they are worse than the pixels you already have. In addition to the color, one of the most important contributors to image quality in the S006 was that the pixel level detail was very sharp and high contrast. That gives your image a snap that makes it easier to enlarge an image with. (Think about it...if you have to interpolate, the more distinct each pixel is, the easier it is for the algorithm to make a good "guess" as to what the interpolated pixel might be.) This is one of the reasons it was able to punch above its weight in terms of comparisons to higher megapixel cameras (especially 35mm ones). I am glad to see that this seems to be retained. The S3 profile color palette seems natural and understated (though it could also be the subdued scene), which is great. This kind of image is vulnerable to bad profiles...lots of information in the shadows, which can be difficult to profile well. Here is seems like color separation is quite good even in the dark tones. Overall it bodes well. Looking forward to trying one one day. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Smith Posted April 25, 2020 Share #160 Posted April 25, 2020 (edited) On 4/11/2020 at 8:45 AM, Chaemono said: S3 vs. SL2 with the same lens now. I tried to take into consideration the higher pixel count of the S3 when framing these. They are good enough, I think. Focus point should be on the exact same spot. Let's state upfront, at base ISO the SL2 holds up really well vs. the S3. There is a slight advantage of the larger sensor in terms of tonal separation but one has to look very closely, and even then the difference is very subtle. Less compressed JPEGs here: https://www.smugmug.com/gallery/n-JkgxSt/ SL2 + 120 Summarit-S as shot. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g302821133-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=0gy0j56MohOu7H3kZ7hZ2NElTfEwB-wUdIo9J462LHs= Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ISO 100 f/5.6 @1/400 sec. S3 + 120 Summarit-S as shot. DNG download here: https://cc2032.zenfolio.com/img/g73940055-o750076470.dat?dl=2&tk=PBYWFq3RbdDFnCX5vncV6r3CZLS8FwNoD_AR-vleMHc=ISO 200 f/5.6 @1/1000 sec. I guess the question is whether an S3 is worth $18,500 more than an S-adapter-L. Edited April 25, 2020 by John Smith 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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