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Interesting. Perhaps they will.

There's always the VC M 12mm (= 18mm) f/5.6 at half the weight. The TL 11-23, at another price point entirely, is a terrific lens, and you do get what you pay for.

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1 hour ago, jaapv said:

looks quite interesting as a fast WA in the bag when needed

 

 

20 minutes ago, SlowDriver said:

I am sure it will do very well... 

As a native WA prime there is little competition and the reviews on B&H of the E-mount version are all very positive:

Exactly my opinion. My problem would be that it will have to compete against the Summilux M 24 in my case - quite a hard fight  - angle against quality... ;)  However, at the price, quite worth a try.

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16 minutes ago, jaapv said:

However, at the price, quite worth a try.

I believe so and FWIW the 6 times more expensive Summilux-TL 35mm is not exactly immune to purple fringing either...

That being said when using it for its strengths the 35mm is a stunning lens. 

I feel this one could be a very useful lens when used within its boundaries.  

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18 hours ago, SlowDriver said:

The 16mm, 30mm and 56mm APS-C lenses are indeed on the Sigma lens roadmap for 2020:

https://www.panasonicff.com/updated-sigma-l-mount-lens-roadmap-through-2020-july-2019/

At the end of last year Sigma released the Canon EF-M mount versions of these lenses (in addition to the already existing Sony E mount versions).

Sigma will announce new L-mount lenses the 26th of february

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It's an interesting lens, although I've got this focal length covered with the Super-Elmar-R 15mm f/3.5 and exceeded the FoV with the Voigtländer Hyperwide 10mm f/5.6. The speed is the major plus of the Sigma 16, for additional low light capability. The V10 is the most compact and lightest of them; it's a stunning performer for its price. The SER15 is an even more amazing performer but of course bulky, rare, and expensive. 

I find focusing with anything in this focal length range to be mostly very easy until you're working in the very close range, so AF isn't very important. The wide aperture of the Sigma will push that a little bit. :)

 

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I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography.

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1 hour ago, jaapv said:

But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography.

Yep and that is one of the major attractions - to me - of the Q. Clearly this lens won’t produce the same sublime quality but something close would be great.

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5 hours ago, jaapv said:

I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography.

Yes, I should have added focus zone control. But ... when I had a fast ultra wide, I never really found myself using much in way of shallow DoF anyway. Different predilections, I guess. :)

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Am 17.2.2020 um 18:10 schrieb jaapv:

I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography.

Hi, please could you do me a favor and explain me the short cut "DOF". Thanks.

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Sadly we need 24x36 for wide angle. Lens choice is very wide (pun intended) in Full frame. Crop factor just annihilates all interest in ultra wide legacy lenses. 
 

One solution is to get a cheap SL for wide angle and for portrait works. So many of them try to find a new home right now. (13 in Parisian Leica shops alone) 
And a CL for long shot and everything else. 
This is the strength of L-mount. Getting the best of 24x36 combined with the best of APS-C. 

We may argue that somehow SL2 is giving us both with its APS-C mode. But CL is still better in this case. 
 

By the way, in France, CL is very sought after. Very hard to find one used. Since SL2 released, interest peaked. Isn’t it funny ? 
 

FYI : in french used market without warranty : a used CL will sell very fast at around 1600€. An used TL2 is very rare but still sell very very slowly at only 900€. Used SL is quite hard to sell, because they are so numerous right now. But at 2500€ they will be sold eventually. Used Q is still a very fast seller at around 2200€. 

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