jaapv Posted February 16, 2020 Share #101 Posted February 16, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) THAT big? 😵 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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raadoo Posted February 16, 2020 Share #102 Posted February 16, 2020 4 hours ago, jaapv said: THAT big? 😵 It’s big and ugly but at 400 buckaroos and just as many grams, I, for one, can’t complain. Not to mention it would be the only 16mm f/1.4 APS-C option for the L mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted February 16, 2020 Share #103 Posted February 16, 2020 Looks interesting. Wonder if it will make it to L-mount. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bags27 Posted February 16, 2020 Share #104 Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) Interesting. Perhaps they will. There's always the VC M 12mm (= 18mm) f/5.6 at half the weight. The TL 11-23, at another price point entirely, is a terrific lens, and you do get what you pay for. Edited February 16, 2020 by bags27 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommonego@gmail.com Posted February 16, 2020 Share #105 Posted February 16, 2020 The 16 f1.4 is on Sigma's list to make an L mount version, I think this year. The 14 f1.4 is out now but at 1200gm it is a non starter for the CL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 16, 2020 Share #106 Posted February 16, 2020 The 16mm, 30mm and 56mm APS-C lenses are indeed on the Sigma lens roadmap for 2020: https://www.panasonicff.com/updated-sigma-l-mount-lens-roadmap-through-2020-july-2019/ At the end of last year Sigma released the Canon EF-M mount versions of these lenses (in addition to the already existing Sony E mount versions). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2020 Share #107 Posted February 17, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Whilst not top-notch in IQ, that 16/1.4 looks quite interesting as a fast WA in the bag when needed. The only drawback being that it struggles with night shots. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share #108 Posted February 17, 2020 Not sure whether I understand... Why would IQ not be top notch? And why would it struggle with night shots? Is this based on Sony or Canon reviews you have read? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2020 Share #109 Posted February 17, 2020 Nice enough, but for day use CA (can be fixed in PP) and slightly softer corners. At night: strong coma and flare. Sigma marketing tries to suggest otherwise https://www.imaging-resource.com/lenses/sigma/16mm-f1.4-dc-dn-contemporary/review/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share #110 Posted February 17, 2020 I am sure it will do very well... As a native WA prime there is little competition and the reviews on B&H of the E-mount version are all very positive: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1369132-REG/sigma_402965_16mm_f_1_4_dc_dn.html/reviews Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2020 Share #111 Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jaapv said: looks quite interesting as a fast WA in the bag when needed 20 minutes ago, SlowDriver said: I am sure it will do very well... As a native WA prime there is little competition and the reviews on B&H of the E-mount version are all very positive: Exactly my opinion. My problem would be that it will have to compete against the Summilux M 24 in my case - quite a hard fight - angle against quality... However, at the price, quite worth a try. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share #112 Posted February 17, 2020 16 minutes ago, jaapv said: However, at the price, quite worth a try. I believe so and FWIW the 6 times more expensive Summilux-TL 35mm is not exactly immune to purple fringing either... That being said when using it for its strengths the 35mm is a stunning lens. I feel this one could be a very useful lens when used within its boundaries. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted February 17, 2020 Author Share #113 Posted February 17, 2020 18 hours ago, SlowDriver said: The 16mm, 30mm and 56mm APS-C lenses are indeed on the Sigma lens roadmap for 2020: https://www.panasonicff.com/updated-sigma-l-mount-lens-roadmap-through-2020-july-2019/ At the end of last year Sigma released the Canon EF-M mount versions of these lenses (in addition to the already existing Sony E mount versions). Sigma will announce new L-mount lenses the 26th of february Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted February 17, 2020 Share #114 Posted February 17, 2020 (edited) It's an interesting lens, although I've got this focal length covered with the Super-Elmar-R 15mm f/3.5 and exceeded the FoV with the Voigtländer Hyperwide 10mm f/5.6. The speed is the major plus of the Sigma 16, for additional low light capability. The V10 is the most compact and lightest of them; it's a stunning performer for its price. The SER15 is an even more amazing performer but of course bulky, rare, and expensive. I find focusing with anything in this focal length range to be mostly very easy until you're working in the very close range, so AF isn't very important. The wide aperture of the Sigma will push that a little bit. Edited February 17, 2020 by ramarren 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted February 17, 2020 Share #115 Posted February 17, 2020 I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskkyle Posted February 17, 2020 Share #116 Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, jaapv said: But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography. Yep and that is one of the major attractions - to me - of the Q. Clearly this lens won’t produce the same sublime quality but something close would be great. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramarren Posted February 17, 2020 Share #117 Posted February 17, 2020 5 hours ago, jaapv said: I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography. Yes, I should have added focus zone control. But ... when I had a fast ultra wide, I never really found myself using much in way of shallow DoF anyway. Different predilections, I guess. G Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
d_w_wolves Posted February 20, 2020 Share #118 Posted February 20, 2020 Am 17.2.2020 um 18:10 schrieb jaapv: I don't think the lens speed is a real differentiating factor, the difference between low and medium ISO is so small nowadays. But I have found that the combination of a wide angle and a limited DOF can make for interesting photography. Hi, please could you do me a favor and explain me the short cut "DOF". Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ruskkyle Posted February 20, 2020 Share #119 Posted February 20, 2020 Depth of Field 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicci78 Posted February 20, 2020 Author Share #120 Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) Sadly we need 24x36 for wide angle. Lens choice is very wide (pun intended) in Full frame. Crop factor just annihilates all interest in ultra wide legacy lenses. One solution is to get a cheap SL for wide angle and for portrait works. So many of them try to find a new home right now. (13 in Parisian Leica shops alone) And a CL for long shot and everything else. This is the strength of L-mount. Getting the best of 24x36 combined with the best of APS-C. We may argue that somehow SL2 is giving us both with its APS-C mode. But CL is still better in this case. By the way, in France, CL is very sought after. Very hard to find one used. Since SL2 released, interest peaked. Isn’t it funny ? FYI : in french used market without warranty : a used CL will sell very fast at around 1600€. An used TL2 is very rare but still sell very very slowly at only 900€. Used SL is quite hard to sell, because they are so numerous right now. But at 2500€ they will be sold eventually. Used Q is still a very fast seller at around 2200€. Edited February 20, 2020 by nicci78 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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