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15 hours ago, nicci78 said:

This is the strength of L-mount. Getting the best of 24x36 combined with the best of APS-C. 

The CL is very complementary to the SL and has (at least in my opinion) explicitly been designed as such by Leica.

The downside is 2 bodies each with (at present rather minimal native) lens lineups.  

 

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16 minutes ago, SlowDriver said:

The CL is very complementary to the SL and has (at least in my opinion) explicitly been designed as such by Leica.

The downside is 2 bodies each with (at present rather minimal native) lens lineups.  

 

Really?

3 zooms and 5 primes in full frame, covering 16mm to 280mm and 3 zooms and 4 primes in APS-C covering 11mm to 135mm all in AF, with access to a huge number of modern and legacy M and R lenses, using a adapter, including macro.  Then, there’s the Panasonic and Sigma L mount lenses ...

Granted, no tilt-shift, but it’s a pretty decent start for a mount that has only been in use for 4 years or so ...  Minimal is not a word I’d use if I was looking for lens choices.

Conversely, the X1D has been round for a similar length of time, and has 9 primes, covering 21mm to 135mm (with two of them 45mm, a 1.7 converter and one zoom yet to be delivered), and limited compatibility ...

 

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You should add the best and sole first party support for M & R lenses in the market. 
Even with SL2, CL is the best 1.5x teleconverter without light penalty. And lesser noise than SL2 in APS-C mode
 

With CL 24MP you can push to 2x crop to simulate m4/3 and still retain 14.5MP. 
Instead of 20MP (APS-C crop) and 12MP (m4/3 crop) for the SL2. 

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On 2/20/2020 at 4:29 PM, IkarusJohn said:

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Conversely, the X1D has been round for a similar length of time, and has 9 primes, covering 21mm to 135mm (with two of them 45mm, a 1.7 converter and one zoom yet to be delivered), and limited compatibility ...

 

I agree that there are plenty of lens choices for the L-mount cameras. :)

Your sum-up of the X1D lens choices isn't exactly fair, though. The XCD zoom just started shipping, the 45P has been shipping in small quantities already, not sure about the 1.7x teleconverter. But the X1D supports use with many of the Hasselblad H system (reflex) lenses too. It also supports using the sensor as an all electronic shutter, which immediately makes many more lenses available for use with mount adapters (Hasselblad V system, Leica M and Leica R amongst them). Even just the XCD lens family is quite good availability for a medium format digital camera system that shipped its first body almost two years after the Leica SL started shipping (first customer ship November 2015 for the SL, X1D announced in June 2016; first X1D bodies shipping in early 2017), and the L-mount was around for two years prior to the SL in the T series bodies (approximately Spring 2014). 

Suffice it to say that, by and large, the supposed dearth of lenses for any of these cameras is mostly mythological. :)

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