lct Posted March 6, 2020 Share #21 Posted March 6, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Could one do snaps like these with an iphone? Just curious as i don't use smartphones to take photos (digital CL + 7art 35/2 @ f/2). Never tried my 7art 35/2 on full frame though but a compact 8 element copy would interest me certainly. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299630-test-photos-released-leica-summicron-35mm-f2-eight-element-copy-made-in-china/?do=findComment&comment=3926162'>More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 6, 2020 Posted March 6, 2020 Hi lct, Take a look here [Test photos released] Leica Summicron 35mm f/2 Eight Element copy made in China. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
KFo Posted March 6, 2020 Share #22 Posted March 6, 2020 56 minutes ago, lct said: Could one do snaps like these with an iphone? Just curious as i don't use smartphones to take photos (digital CL + 7art 35/2 @ f/2). Never tried my 7art 35/2 on full frame though but a compact 8 element copy would interest me certainly. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Ya. iPhone 11 Pro, three lenses: 13, 26, 52 (FF equiv). Below 52mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 6, 2020 Share #23 Posted March 6, 2020 Interesting indeed. Is this natural OoF? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted March 6, 2020 Share #24 Posted March 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, lct said: Interesting indeed. Is this natural OoF? Yes. I shot very close, maybe 8-12" from the trunk. I also adjusted the exposure "in camera" to bring up the trunk. Coulda used the flash for fill too, but, I like the exposure adjustment generally. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 6, 2020 Share #25 Posted March 6, 2020 1 hour ago, lct said: Interesting indeed. Is this natural OoF? By natural oof do you mean lens aperture produced or computational? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted March 6, 2020 Share #26 Posted March 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, jdlaing said: By natural oof do you mean lens aperture produced or computational? I meant lens aperture produced. It also does a computational bokeh but it is a particular mode (portrait). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 7, 2020 Share #27 Posted March 7, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, KFo said: I meant lens aperture produced. It also does a computational bokeh but it is a particular mode (portrait). I think it still might be computational as aperture, I think, can’t be chosen on an iPhone. The technology in those phones with multiple focal lengths comes from a company called Light. https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/303745-computational-photography/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaeger Posted March 9, 2020 Share #28 Posted March 9, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:23 AM, jdlaing said: Double bullshit. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! holy mother... these kinda images... if I knew it I wouldn't bother to answer this post, but yeah these lenses suit you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good To Be Retired Posted March 9, 2020 Share #29 Posted March 9, 2020 (edited) On 3/6/2020 at 10:21 AM, jaeger said: that was rude and personal. Anyway, was that iPhone photo? I think iPhone can do better. Actually, here in Texas, we just use that as a colloquialism indicating excited interest in the topic The second one means he's twice as interested. New Yorkers don't get it either. Translates poorly. Edited March 9, 2020 by Good To Be Retired 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 9, 2020 Share #30 Posted March 9, 2020 Triple BS. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/299630-test-photos-released-leica-summicron-35mm-f2-eight-element-copy-made-in-china/?do=findComment&comment=3928401'>More sharing options...
Ecar Posted March 10, 2020 Share #31 Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Looks like a couple of drops flew away and hit the sensor...😉 Edited March 10, 2020 by Ecar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted March 10, 2020 Share #32 Posted March 10, 2020 7 hours ago, Ecar said: Looks like a couple of drops flew away and hit the sensor...😉 Yes. When I saw that I cleaned it. 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stein K S Posted March 10, 2020 Share #33 Posted March 10, 2020 Nothing in here in the later posts are not being even close to representing any value what so ever in comparing lens capabilities... (what resolutions are being used here...)! Just confused... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpomatic Posted March 11, 2020 Share #34 Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 8:27 PM, lct said: Interesting indeed. Is this natural OoF? It seems to me that the out of focus highlights are all the same size on the grass and the background, regardless of distance from lens - it looks computational to me. Am I seeing ghosts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
colint544 Posted March 11, 2020 Share #35 Posted March 11, 2020 Slightly deviating from the main topic, but has anyone seen the price v1 eight element lenses are going for these days? Red Dot Cameras have one right now, and they want £3400 for it. £3400!!! Bet they sell it for that amount too. I bought one in 1998 for £350. It was mint and in its perspex cylinder, with original caps and hood. Ended up selling it on eBay in 2011, and was astonished to get £1650 for it. It's a lovely lens, well made and sharp. But the background blur isn't as smooth as you get with the Summaron, and it can flare quite badly if you're not careful. £3400! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 11, 2020 Share #36 Posted March 11, 2020 41 minutes ago, Harpomatic said: It seems to me that the out of focus highlights are all the same size on the grass and the background, regardless of distance from lens - it looks computational to me. Am I seeing ghosts? Plastic ghosts then . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ecar Posted March 11, 2020 Share #37 Posted March 11, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, colint544 said: Slightly deviating from the main topic, but has anyone seen the price v1 eight element lenses are going for these days? Red Dot Cameras have one right now, and they want £3400 for it. £3400!!! Bet they sell it for that amount too. I bought one in 1998 for £350. It was mint and in its perspex cylinder, with original caps and hood. Ended up selling it on eBay in 2011, and was astonished to get £1650 for it. It's a lovely lens, well made and sharp. But the background blur isn't as smooth as you get with the Summaron, and it can flare quite badly if you're not careful. £3400! Perhaps a commission sale on behalf of someone who overpaid in the first place and ended up not liking the bokeh? 😁 Btw, I fully agree that the oof rendering of this lens is nothing to write home about, although I haven't found it too bad in terms of flare resistance (I always use a hood, though). The prices of the 35/1.4 v1 ("steel rim") are also ridiculous these days - for a lens that is not truly "rare" after all - and the Summaron 35/2.8 also seems to reach new price heights every day. Truth be told, these lenses look gorgeous and are a joy to use... Edited March 11, 2020 by Ecar 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFo Posted March 11, 2020 Share #38 Posted March 11, 2020 4 hours ago, Harpomatic said: It seems to me that the out of focus highlights are all the same size on the grass and the background, regardless of distance from lens - it looks computational to me. Am I seeing ghosts? I think that the image makes sense optically. That was shot 26mm from about 10". The total DOF is about a foot. Like any lens, you get close enough with a big enough aperture you'll get some bokeh. I still don't think this image shows what I'm thinking of a computational DOF rendering where a feature like a face is IDd and the rest of the image is blurred. For sure the iPhone does some interesting stuff. For example, it pre-captures several frames all the time and processes a selection of images for best exposure, detail, etc. I haven't found anything that really gets specific on the process, I suppose the exact process is proprietary and can be a significant competitive advantage to Apple. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted March 11, 2020 Share #39 Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 6:47 AM, jaeger said: Chinese made lenses are like... dashcam quality. It seems to capture something but you can't even read the license plate of the car in the front. I've tried 2 or 3 copies of 7art fast lenses but all failed. maybe f/2 will work better but again - micky mouse. Amusing! Keep your head in sand! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted March 11, 2020 Share #40 Posted March 11, 2020 On 3/6/2020 at 6:47 AM, jaeger said: Chinese made lenses are like... dashcam quality. It seems to capture something but you can't even read the license plate of the car in the front. I've tried 2 or 3 copies of 7art fast lenses but all failed. maybe f/2 will work better but again - micky mouse. Amusing! Keep your head in sand! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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