Who has two M10 bodies?

[jdlaing]

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A backup body, to be pure, has to be the same. Otherwise it is complimentary.

If not the same it is hobbled as a backup.

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[bocaburger]

I always onwed and carried 2 M bodies up until the M8.  Given how these things depreciate, and given it was Leica's first foray into a digital M, I decided to hold off on getting a second...which turned out to be a good decision for me...and began using a p&s as an emergency backup.  I sold the M8 for an M9 rather than keep it, because of the differences in crop factor and frame line calibration, and because with the M9 I could shed the IR filters.   I waited for a demo M240, which I bought for amost 2 grand off new-MSRP, sold the M9, bought a Nex6 as a backup.  When I discovered the M240 ticked all my boxes and was a keeper, I bought a certified pre-owned (again for thousands off MSRP).  Now I'm back to 2 identical M bodies, for barely more than the cost of one new one.  Given there's nothing about the 10 I find compelling enough to switch, I feel comfortable having spent what I did.

[Jeff S]

A backup body, to be pure, has to be the same. Otherwise it is complimentary.

If not the same it is hobbled as a backup.

It’s only complimentary if it says nice things to you.

 

Jeff

[Gobert]

It’s only complimentary if it says nice things to you.

Jeff

That’s my wive after I’ve showed a good performance.

[Narsuitus]

I only get two (or three) bodies of the cameras upon which I depend for income.

 

I have three Nikon F2, two Nikon F4, two Canon G15, two medium format, three digital SLRs, and three digital mirrorless.

 

I am not sure if I will ever be able to fiscally justify a second M10.

[RexGig0]

I very nearly bought a second M10, during an attack of Gear Acquisition Syndrome, shortly after buying my first M10, last month. It has long felt "right" to have a second camera body, to seamlessly complement my primary camera, and function with the same lenses and flash equipment, with an identical control set, but I am now retired, and no longer compelled by the duty to create photographic evidence of crime scenes and crime victims. (I remained a first-responder, with the added duty of photography, so never claimed to be a "professional photographer.") My pair of Canon 7D Mark II cameras, still packed in a Pelican case, at-the-ready, represent a professional level of preparation, or, at least, tools of the trade.

 

My M10 was the realization of a dream, perhaps dating to 2009 or 2010. A second M10 would be convenient, yes, but, really, a luxury. I may allow myself that luxury, eventually.

[250swb]

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I bet the Mercedes and Porsche dealers love some of you guys when you say 'I'll have two, just in case one needs a service'. 

 

I've used two Leica's when a pro photographer, but that was when film came in two separate flavours and each acted as a lens holder for the other. And I still have more than one film Leica M, each is used on a whim every now and again but I don't need all of them, one would do.

 

But the real value in cameras back in the days of film was, as nowadays, not in duplicating or even semi duplicating what you already have, it is in taking advantage of cameras that can do something different. A Leica M and a Rolleiflex was for example the other way to look at covering the situation, either could still take a photograph if the other crapped out on you, but when both worked they both changed the situation and gave something different from each other. So I honestly cannot imagine owning two Leica M10's, especially given nowadays you can get one in the mail by the next working day if the world falls in on you. For a similar price I'd rather have a medium format digital camera as a 'backup', and imagine this, it could be used as a prime camera as well! I'd rather have my Olympus TG5 in my pocket rather than lugging a duplicate M mount body around. 

 

But unless a pro I think having two identical cameras, one as an idle backup, or carting two around 'just in case', is more about not having confidence in what you bought, and also in not having faith in that old, old adage, 'a good photographer can take a good picture with any camera'. 

[6bit]

But unless a pro I think having two identical cameras, one as an idle backup, or carting two around 'just in case', is more about not having confidence in what you bought, and also in not having faith in that old, old adage, 'a good photographer can take a good picture with any camera'. 

 

 

You are entitled to your opinion. I don't believe that having two identical cameras and not being a pro means I don't have faith in my gear and I also am not sure how that ties to 'a good photographer can take a good picture with any camera'. 

 

Thanks for your input. Still looking for those who own two M10s and their responses. 

[Ole Fasmer]

2 camerabodys are almost standard for press(like) work with non zoom lenses. Having a wide and a telephoto( or an other combination) lens ready without changing. I don’t even have the money for one m10, so two would seem over the top(for me). For others on a budget I vill recommend one rangefinder and one dslr or mirrorless camera. Use a 70 -200 or equivalent on the non rangefinder and a fast wide on the rangefinder. If you prefer fixed focal lengths, go with a fast 85, 135, 180 mm. on the dslr or the mirrorless. My standard kit in the film days was a Leica m4 with a 35 mm summicron. And a Nikon ( several models) with 85 , f.2

[250swb]

You are entitled to your opinion. I don't believe that having two identical cameras and not being a pro means I don't have faith in my gear and I also am not sure how that ties to 'a good photographer can take a good picture with any camera'. 

 

Thanks for your input. Still looking for those who own two M10s and their responses. 

 

I could have been more cruel in my assessment and said there are those who say 'I couldn't possibly be seen without a Leica around my neck!'  A dreadful situation to be in.

[6bit]

I could have been more cruel in my assessment and said there are those who say 'I couldn't possibly be seen without a Leica around my neck!'  A dreadful situation to be in.

 

 

I did not mean any offense in my statement. Apologies if it came across that way.

[indergaard]

I have one M10. Having two makes no sense to me as I don’t use it professionally, and I don’t rely on the camera for anything. I do have an MP (analog) and a freezer full of B&W and color film though, which sort of serves as a backup.

 

And I also have an A7rIII with a set of primes and zooms, which sees a very different use, but which also can serve as a backup.

[6bit]

It is becoming obvious it is rare for someone to own two M10s. Not a shocker but I am a little surprised a few more didn't pop up.

 

The M10 is my first digital Leica. I really don't have a good feel for how well the cameras hold up but I get the feeling they hold up just as good as other brands. Things happen and Leica is not immune to that just like the rest. It does seem that have two M10s would be more for working professionals. If not for the investment alone. I appreciate everyone's responses and look forward to more.

[Agent M10]

I have two. I'll be using both next month in Africa. One will have the 35mm Summilux, and the other the 75mm Summicron. 

[6bit]

I have two. I'll be using both next month in Africa. One will have the 35mm Summilux, and the other the 75mm Summicron. 

 

 

Are you a working professional?

 

Do you mind to answer why you have two M10 bodies?

[Frase]

I don't really see the need to buy two and have one as a backup, most professional photographers don't have two bodies for backup more likely one is for your wide the other is telephoto, but what i've always done is maybe kept a previous generation body just in case one of my current bodies is in for repair.

[Agent M10]

Are you a working professional?

 

Do you mind to answer why you have two M10 bodies?

 

 

Yes, we publish an independent magazine and I'm the primary photographer. I bought two Ms (one black, one chrome) because it is easier to deal with two bodies with two dedicated lenses than it is one body and two lenses. This also helps to prevent dust on the sensor, etc. 

[Gobert]

Yes, we publish an independent magazine and I'm the primary photographer. I bought two Ms (one black, one chrome) because it is easier to deal with two bodies with two dedicated lenses than it is one body and two lenses. This also helps to prevent dust on the sensor, etc.

 

Especially in Africa, where dust ist your primarily problem. Changing lenses there should be minimised.

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[pico]

Aw, damn! My accountant just called to say my RMD is $x amount. Shit! To buy my sweetheart a new car or a couple of M10s, and maybe 75mm Noctilux? OH! She can't drive a camera. Never mind.

 

This RMD thing is just plain bullsh*t. The government kleptocracy demands that at ~70 years-old we Americans withdraw a minimum amount from our savings or retirement source, then they tax it. I'm speechless.

Edited May 22, 2018 by pico

[pedaes]

Aw, damn! My accountant just called to say my RMD is $x amount. Shit! To buy my sweetheart a new car or a couple of M10s, and maybe 75mm Noctilux? OH! She can't drive a camera. Never mind.

 

This RMD thing is just plain bullsh*t. The government kleptocracy demands that at ~70 years-old we Americans withdraw a minimum amount from our savings or retirement source, then they tax it. I'm speechless.

 

We are all taxed (quite heavily) in different ways. How does 20% sales tax grab you, and no ability to avoid by buying out of State. Not to mention 40% on part of our pension.That said, happy to pay my share as there is no other sensible way to fund all the things we rely on.