adan Posted May 22, 2018 Share #41 Posted May 22, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) A bit off topic - but pico, the RMD applies only to retirement accounts. Which are tax-deferred money at the front end - you saved on taxes when you put it in those accounts way back when - remember? Now you're at the point where you are paying the deferred taxes as you withdraw - presumably (but not necessarily) in a lower tax bracket than at the peak of your earnings. And that money is for your retirement - that's why you got the tax break. It is not there to hold onto forever or pass on to your descendents. Use it or lose it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Narsuitus Posted May 22, 2018 Share #42 Posted May 22, 2018 This RMD thing is just plain bullsh*t. The government kleptocracy demands that at ~70 years-old we Americans withdraw a minimum amount from our savings or retirement source, then they tax it. I'm speechless. Before you reached age 70, your accountant should have told you that you could have moved the money from your traditional IRA into a Roth IRA. There is no RMD (required minimum distribution) for a Roth IRA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 22, 2018 Share #43 Posted May 22, 2018 We are all taxed (quite heavily) in different ways. How does 20% sales tax grab you, and no ability to avoid by buying out of State. Not to mention 40% on part of our pension.That said, happy to pay my share as there is no other sensible way to fund all the things we rely on. Unfortunately, US Americans get no credit towards health and well-being for paying taxes. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted May 22, 2018 Share #44 Posted May 22, 2018 Before you reached age 70, your accountant should have told you that you could have moved the money from your traditional IRA into a Roth IRA. There is no RMD (required minimum distribution) for a Roth IRA. I believe to move it to the Roth, you must pay taxes on it. When you take a distribution from a Roth you pay not taxes. Your Roth contributions are made with funds you have already paid taxes on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted May 22, 2018 Share #45 Posted May 22, 2018 (edited) A bit off topic - but pico, the RMD applies only to retirement accounts. Which are tax-deferred money at the front end - you saved on taxes when you put it in those accounts way back when - remember? Now you're at the point where you are paying the deferred taxes as you withdraw - presumably (but not necessarily) in a lower tax bracket than at the peak of your earnings. And that money is for your retirement - that's why you got the tax break. It is not there to hold onto forever or pass on to your descendents. Use it or lose it. Andy, I get it, however I would prefer to voluntarily withdraw the money when I need it; not when I do not need it. See, it's like the kleptocracy is dictating our lifestyle, for better but more often worse. And you had best behave young man or I'll unload my estate upon yours so you can deal with false wealth! Love ya, guy. . Edited May 22, 2018 by pico Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTLeica Posted May 23, 2018 Share #46 Posted May 23, 2018 You are entitled to your opinion. I don't believe that having two identical cameras and not being a pro means I don't have faith in my gear and I also am not sure how that ties to 'a good photographer can take a good picture with any camera'. Thanks for your input. Still looking for those who own two M10s and their responses. I used to always carry two cameras, with different lens on each and rarely had to change. The only reason I dont have two M10's the that they are expensive. But likely I will in the next year or so. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall Brigade Posted May 24, 2018 Share #47 Posted May 24, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have 2 M10s so that I can carry both, one with a short telephoto and the other with a moderate wide angle, and not have to swap lenses so often. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpf1952 Posted May 24, 2018 Share #48 Posted May 24, 2018 I have two M-10s. I shoot events, and two bodies means faster switching from wide to normal or wide to telephoto. Sometimes it’s switching from available light to flash on camera. It’s all about speed. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted May 24, 2018 Share #49 Posted May 24, 2018 Two M10, that's dream team . Stonewall Brigade, tpf1952, very curious that you two don't talk about their color(s). I'm curious also, how you carry them ( without or in case, with long/short straps, on each shoulder or the two on your chest ?). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narsuitus Posted May 24, 2018 Share #50 Posted May 24, 2018 For years, I waited for Leica to produce a digital that was similar in style, size, weight, function, and ergonomics to my Leica M6 film rangefinder. While I waited, I began shooting with a Fuji rangefinder-style mirrorless. If I had stuck to my original plan, when the Leica digital camera for which I had been waiting appeared (the M10), I would have replaced my three temporary Fuji bodies with two M10 bodies. However, the high price of the M10 has prevented me from doing so. Leica Rangefinders by Narsuitus, on Flickr Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpf1952 Posted May 26, 2018 Share #51 Posted May 26, 2018 Two M10, that's dream team . Stonewall Brigade, tpf1952, very curious that you two don't talk about their color(s). I'm curious also, how you carry them ( without or in case, with long/short straps, on each shoulder or the two on your chest ?). Good question, a.noctilux. I regret I don't have a good plan for how I carry them. Both have the standard straps. I tend to keep the camera with the 28 around my neck, and the other camera on my right shoulder with my hand on the camera. It's a little sloppy, but it works. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share #52 Posted May 27, 2018 Thank you to everyone who participated. By the end of this week I will have two M10 bodies. A silver will join my black body. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.noctilux Posted May 27, 2018 Share #53 Posted May 27, 2018 Good question, a.noctilux. I regret I don't have a good plan for how I carry them. Both have the standard straps. I tend to keep the camera with the 28 around my neck, and the other camera on my right shoulder with my hand on the camera. It's a little sloppy, but it works. With two Ms, I've never find how to carry them. I've experimenting "hundred" possibilities and failed. So when I have to use 2 Ms, the not used one is in a bag or small case and that for the day long, I usually use the one already in my hand. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobert Posted May 27, 2018 Share #54 Posted May 27, 2018 Thank you to everyone who participated. By the end of this week I will have two M10 bodies. A silver will join my black body. What did you decide for two different colored bodies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
feelssadman Posted May 27, 2018 Share #55 Posted May 27, 2018 What did you decide for two different colored bodies? Probably because (s)he couldn't decide on the color, heh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
6bit Posted May 27, 2018 Author Share #56 Posted May 27, 2018 What did you decide for two different colored bodies? I went back and forth on the color in the beginning. I struggled between to choose between them. I then passed up silver and silver waiting for a black body. Finally getting one with some help from this forum. Now that I have ordered my second body, I thought I would go silver to satisfy that urge. I like the look better because it reminds me of the old Canon, Nikon, and Yashica film bodies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagereflex Posted May 28, 2018 Share #57 Posted May 28, 2018 I have two, although not the same color. If I had it to do over again, I'd probably get both in black. Since I use my cameras for work, I try to purchase a minimum of two bodies. You never know when a camera is going to stop working, and the last thing you want is to find that the only body you have for an assignment is dead. I also find it easier to work with two bodies, using different focal lengths on each; it makes it faster to switch from one view to another, and minimizes the amount of time the lens is removed from the bodies (which minimizes the amount of time for dust to enter the camera). Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucerne Posted May 28, 2018 Share #58 Posted May 28, 2018 I went back and forth on the color in the beginning. I struggled between to choose between them. I then passed up silver and silver waiting for a black body. Finally getting one with some help from this forum. Now that I have ordered my second body, I thought I would go silver to satisfy that urge. I like the look better because it reminds me of the old Canon, Nikon, and Yashica film bodies. Call me Mr Confused! Or am I missing something.How many body colour options are there. Is it not two? Decision for second body would be simple and logically driven. No? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
imagereflex Posted May 28, 2018 Share #59 Posted May 28, 2018 Call me Mr Confused! Or am I missing something. How many body colour options are there. Is it not two? Decision for second body would be simple and logically driven. No? The decision is not necessarily a logical one (binary, perhaps, but not logical). I have traditionally purchased cameras that look the same, and the majority of those have been black. My first Leica, however, a silver one, was given to me by a relative. Thus, I had no involvement in the choice. My own preference is for black cameras in that they tend to be less flashy and (hopefully) less likely to attract attention. When I purchased my first M10, I ordered it in black. Some time later, I had a chance to pick up a silver one at a decent price, and price considerations overrode personal color preference. I've tried to justify the difference in color by thinking back to film leicas, where I used different color bodies; I also like to think that the silver has a more classic look. Of course, that may just be an effort to justify a decision as opposed to the reasons for the selection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted May 28, 2018 Share #60 Posted May 28, 2018 The forum is full of confused people. Even after owning and using their gear, they often don’t know which cameras and lenses to take where. Jeff 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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