Marieke Feenstra Posted April 2, 2018 Share #61 Posted April 2, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Great kit, perhaps you might want to complement it with a stronger Grad ND (1.2 stop, 1.5 stop, or both) otherwise is pretty much all you'll ever need, IMHO. Hello Maciel, what you learned is correct, and works for extension tubes, i.e. when using macro lenses and adding an extension tube to increase magnification: that effectively changes the amount of light reaching the sensor. Here, though, the situation is different: the adapter doesn't "add" any extra length to the lens' original focal length, it just compensates for the difference in flange-to-sensor distance existing between the M and the SL (with the M's flange-to-sensor distance being slightly longer). To put it another way: with the adapter, your M lens used on the SL behaves exactly as it would do on your M cameras; without the adapter (were it be possible to mount it) you would actually GAIN light compared to the same lens used on your M. I hope this makes sense Best regards, Vieri Yes, it does make sense, thank you Vieri! Good to know this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Vieri Posted April 2, 2018 Share #62 Posted April 2, 2018 Yes, it does make sense, thank you Vieri! Good to know this You are very welcome, glad to be of help Best, Vieri Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lecycliste Posted April 3, 2018 Share #63 Posted April 3, 2018 (edited) It’s already out there - 16-18-21mm f/4 Tri-Elmar ASPH. Less than $3900 used. Excellent image quality. Do you really need fast AF and IS at 16mm? For interiors and architecture and serious landscapes, the camera is on a tripod anyway. With the SL’s viewfinder, manual focusing is easy. And the camera has a 16-18-21mm WATE lens profile for corner correction. Edited April 3, 2018 by lecycliste 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted April 3, 2018 Share #64 Posted April 3, 2018 errrr....... try fitting filters onto it like polarisers, ND’s and grads ....... The Leica adapter is the only one that fits and you need to block the large hole left in it for RF use otherwise you get reflections and light leaks. It’s all very fiddly and needs additional step up rings as well. The new 16-35 with the same 82mm filter size as the rest is much more sensible ....... and with the extension to 35mm means it would be on the camera 90% of the time for landscape use. I love the WATE ...... but will gladly retire it when the new lens appears. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted April 3, 2018 Share #65 Posted April 3, 2018 It’s already out there - 16-18-21mm f/4 Tri-Elmar ASPH. Less than $3900 used. Excellent image quality. Do you really need fast AF and IS at 16mm? For interiors and architecture and serious landscapes, the camera is on a tripod anyway. With the SL’s viewfinder, manual focusing is easy. And the camera has a 16-18-21mm WATE lens profile for corner correction. errrr....... try fitting filters onto it like polarisers, ND’s and grads ....... The Leica adapter is the only one that fits and you need to block the large hole left in it for RF use otherwise you get reflections and light leaks. It’s all very fiddly and needs additional step up rings as well. The new 16-35 with the same 82mm filter size as the rest is much more sensible ....... and with the extension to 35mm means it would be on the camera 90% of the time for landscape use. I love the WATE ...... but will gladly retire it when the new lens appears. Great posts, certainly each has their advantages, for me I'm going a third direction and using my 18, 21, 24 primes. I'm curious to see both the WATE and 16-35mm to see if one or the other will sway me, more likely the newer zoom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted April 3, 2018 Author Share #66 Posted April 3, 2018 My favourite landscape images always seem derived from inclement conditions. The weather sealing of the 16-35 will be most welcomed as a result, not to mention having to no longer fuss with mounting and un-mounting my M lenses whilst the wind blows dust all over the sensor. And I'd be surprised if the corner performance of the 16-35 does not exceed that of the M glass on the SL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted April 4, 2018 Share #67 Posted April 4, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looking forward to owning the 16-35mm. I decided against buying the WATE to use it on my M10 due to the difficulty of getting filters onto the lens. It was impossible for me to use ND filters on my 21 lux w/o custom fabrication works. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 4, 2018 Share #68 Posted April 4, 2018 I also have the two SL zooms, but won't be buying this one (I'm very sure it will be fantastic etc, which will test my resolve). I used to have and love the wide Nikkor zoom (12-24?) - great lens. With the two Leica SL zooms, and 28 & 21mm in M mount, while the new zoom is wide enough, it leaves me with a huge overlap which leaves me cold. I don't need 35mm ... So, I will wait to see if there's a wider zoom somewhere over the horizon, or a really nice SL super wide - 15/2.8, maybe? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 7, 2018 Share #69 Posted April 7, 2018 I think the only real hook for me in this lens is if it renders distortion and aberration free with low vignetting. Otherwise I will give it a miss. For those qualities, I will probably get it. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted April 8, 2018 Share #70 Posted April 8, 2018 It's a monster!! https://leicarumors.com/2018/04/06/pictures-of-the-new-leica-super-vario-elmar-sl-16-35mm-f-3-5-4-5-asph-lens.aspx/#more-51780 I'm not one of the "SL and it's lenses are too big crowd" but this has to be the biggest 16-35 ever made..... And as an aside I got to test out my theory that a CL with 11-23 would be a fine wide angle option for my SL kit and I was very pleased at how well it worked out. Gordon 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lx1713 Posted April 8, 2018 Share #71 Posted April 8, 2018 It's a monster!! https://leicarumors.com/2018/04/06/pictures-of-the-new-leica-super-vario-elmar-sl-16-35mm-f-3-5-4-5-asph-lens.aspx/#more-51780 I'm not one of the "SL and it's lenses are too big crowd" but this has to be the biggest 16-35 ever made..... And as an aside I got to test out my theory that a CL with 11-23 would be a fine wide angle option for my SL kit and I was very pleased at how well it worked out. Gordon Yes. I'm having a fun time with it even with the SL. But I will wait for a bit to see if Leica has anything interesting later in the year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted April 9, 2018 Share #72 Posted April 9, 2018 Regarding weight of the 16-35: leicarumors states 1.6 kg, a Slovakian site 1.3 kg. So heavy will it be. For comparison, the weight of the 24-90 is 1.14 kg. We will soon know... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted April 9, 2018 Share #73 Posted April 9, 2018 I am eagerly waiting for Leica to announce the 16-35mm. With price list announced only can one preorder the lens. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted April 9, 2018 Share #74 Posted April 9, 2018 (edited) Hopefully Leica Rumours info. is reliable. Edited April 9, 2018 by sillbeers15 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helged Posted April 9, 2018 Share #75 Posted April 9, 2018 Price: 5200€ (apparently). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
satijntje Posted April 9, 2018 Share #76 Posted April 9, 2018 No thanks!A 18 or 21mm M lens will do the job sufficiently well for me. John 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sillbeers15 Posted April 9, 2018 Share #77 Posted April 9, 2018 Just received text message from Leica store on price of 16-35mm. It is SGD$8300. That makes it the 2nd most expensive SL lens after the 90-280mm. Now the real pre-order starts. ETA 2-3mths on delivery. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vieri Posted April 9, 2018 Share #78 Posted April 9, 2018 As I thought, I am happy to confirm that the 16-35mm. weighs under a kg Best regards, Vieri 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MediaFotografie Posted April 9, 2018 Share #79 Posted April 9, 2018 As I thought, I am happy to confirm that the 16-35mm. weighs under a kg Best regards, Vieri yes, 990 gr ! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill W Posted April 9, 2018 Share #80 Posted April 9, 2018 yes, 990 gr ! Thats great news...! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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