NB23 Posted April 11, 2017 Share #61 Posted April 11, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Exactly my point. It is a normal angle of view with shallow depth of field. And I can tell what a 50mm looks like and so can you. I shoot 95% of all my photographs between 35mm and 50mm and I know exactly what my frame is like. As a matter of fact, with my .72 finder glasses and since I wear glasses, it is very hard for me to see the frame lines. I frame from the bottom edge and know instinctively where the rest falls with these two. When I shoot 75mm, I have to remind myself to look at the frame lines. It is a noticeable difference between normal and short tele. Sure, in the vf it seems like tele. But what if, like in the M8, the framelines are inacurate that 75mm franelines are truly 50mm frameiines? It all ends up being am illusion and on print it's impossible to tell. I'm presently in the middle of a printing marathon, 100 negatives shot with 24, 35 and 50. All 16x20 prints (ocer 200). The crazy thing is I often can't tell which is a 24 shot and which is a 50. I remember it was 24 but it looks so much like a 50mm shot that I start doubting myself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 11, 2017 Posted April 11, 2017 Hi NB23, Take a look here Leica 75mm Noctilux to be realised in 2017.... I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
Michael Geschlecht Posted April 11, 2017 Share #62 Posted April 11, 2017 I don't think they dare to name it like that! But that they dared to name the successor of the M9 an M240... Hello Otto, Actually, they didn't. Leica originally named the M240 simply "M". Later, due to circumstance, the name "evolved" into M240. Best Regards, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted April 12, 2017 Share #63 Posted April 12, 2017 Leica was all about small when Barnack was around. I used to own slow and fast ones and fast always stayed home. So I no longer write checks for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelwj Posted April 12, 2017 Share #64 Posted April 12, 2017 why does it need to be huge and expensive.......... you obviously have big arms and lots of moneyIt doesn't need to be huge and expensive, but going from the extraordinary large and expensive 1.4/50 SL, a 1.2/75 SL would be massive. My guess is just because they can, they do. On the other hand, a 1.2/75 M lens can't be huge, but it sure will be expensive. Around $7-$8k is my guess. And I have neither big arms (I'm a runner) or lots of money (I'm a research scientist). Luckily I also have no need or want for a fast 75mm lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DickieT Posted April 12, 2017 Share #65 Posted April 12, 2017 Any views on what this lens would do to the price of the original 75/1.4 ? More demand and hence a price increase or people replacing their Summi's for this new master and a price decrease ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted April 12, 2017 Share #66 Posted April 12, 2017 Any views on what this lens would do to the price of the original 75/1.4 ? More demand and hence a price increase or people replacing their Summi's for this new master and a price decrease ? This new lens will fortify the classicism of the old lens and will add to its mysticism. I say add One Grand of those delicious Green US Dollars to the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NB23 Posted April 12, 2017 Share #67 Posted April 12, 2017 Advertisement (gone after registration) Add Half a Grand of those delicious Greens on top of the previous Grand if it's made in the Holy Land of Germany. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral75 Posted September 28, 2017 Share #68 Posted September 28, 2017 The announcement of the Leica Noctilux-M 75mm f/1.25 Asph. before the end of this year is once again confirmed by Nokishita Camera: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/09/thambar-m-90mm-f22.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linford Posted September 28, 2017 Share #69 Posted September 28, 2017 I am intrigued and excited about the idea and I am hoping to surprised by reasonable size and weight. However, saying that, as much as I love my 0.95 Noctilux this 75mm offering better be pretty good if it is going to tempt me. The 2/90 summicron is a pretty great lens for portraits and medium range shooting in general.I agree with an earlier comment: a 35mm offering would have been more attractive. But back to pseudo-reality (kinda), let's hope to be pleasantly surprised by the 1.25/75mm Noctilux. Cheers--lt Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted September 28, 2017 Share #70 Posted September 28, 2017 Yep. This is what the SL is for. The lens should only be for the SL, that way it can be huge and expensive! I agree : it can have a sense on SL, both for its excellent EVF and for the balancing of body+lens : as an "EVF only" (*) lens for M i think it wouldn't have appeal neither for lovers of luxury items nor for people really interested in what such a lens can give. (*) Imho it must be such... no possibility to have a decent framing in OVF... and even speculating on some "new M" with something revolutionary on the RF side ("electronic EVF"... ) the BASIC sizing of a camera named "M" cannot be revolutionized... it would have some kind of OVF in a position not TOO distant from lens' axis, onto a body not significantly taller than the current... no room for a lens diameter (with hood...) as a 75 1,25 MUST have.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 28, 2017 Share #71 Posted September 28, 2017 A manual lens for the SL? Little chance folks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted September 29, 2017 Share #72 Posted September 29, 2017 The announcement of the Leica Noctilux-M 75mm f/1.25 Asph. before the end of this year is once again confirmed by Nokishita Camera: http://www.nokishita-camera.com/2017/09/thambar-m-90mm-f22.html Can anyone tell me, what "is confirmed" means? If someone said something which someone else hears and repeats - is this a confirmation? Unfortunately I can't read Japanese. Can somebody tell me what is the wording of the Nokishita news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 29, 2017 Share #73 Posted September 29, 2017 Can anyone tell me what "is confirmed" means? It doesn't mean anything. If someone said something which someone else hears and repeats—is this a confirmation? Yes—for those who cannot tell the difference between a rumour and an official announcement. That said, rumours about an upcoming Noctilux-M 75 mm Asph are coming in over more than one channel, including one or two which don't involve the Internet. So in my opinion, this rumour is as close to an official announcement as it comes. Yet, it still is a rumour. However, knowing Leica Camera, it possibly may take longer than expected, so it might arrive not before 2018 ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted September 29, 2017 Share #74 Posted September 29, 2017 Nocti sounds like an M kind of thing, but it can be used on the SL with a simple adapter. The SL might be the only way to focus it accurately. From the spread of rumor sources, there must be a prototype or two floating around, but that doesn't mean it is ready to ship. Remember for how long the 28 Summilux-M remained hotly discussed vaporware? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
otto.f Posted September 30, 2017 Share #75 Posted September 30, 2017 It doesn't mean anything. Yes—for those who cannot tell the difference between a rumour and an official announcement. That said, rumours about an upcoming Noctilux-M 75 mm Asph are coming in over more than one channel, including one or two which don't involve the Internet. So in my opinion, this rumour is as close to an official announcement as it comes. Yet, it still is a rumour. However, knowing Leica Camera, it possibly may take longer than expected, so it might arrive not before 2018 ... I'd rather call it a public secret. If my dealer tells me in january that I have to start putting money aside and a few months later leica rumors comes up with this news derived from sources they always use, it's not a rumor for me but a public secret Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted September 30, 2017 Share #76 Posted September 30, 2017 ... it sure will be expensive. Around $7-$8k is my guess. That would have been my guess for an Apo-Summilux-M 75 mm Asph—which I was hoping for. Oh well ... For a Noctilux-M 75 mm Asph, however, I'd expect a price 10 - 20 % more than the Noctilux-M 50 mm Asph's—so I'm afraid I'll have to pass. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted September 30, 2017 Share #77 Posted September 30, 2017 >>>> "Leica is preparing to announce the next M lens. NOCTILUX-M 75 mm f / 1.25 ASPH. Scheduled announcement Late 2017 THAMBAR-M 90 mm f / 2.2 announcement Late 2017 To be released in the first half of 2018" Unfortunately I can't read Japanese. Can somebody tell me what is the wording of the Nokishita news? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 1, 2017 Share #78 Posted October 1, 2017 Hello Everybody, The difference between an aperture of 1.0 and an aperture of 0.95 is 1/7th of a stop. ... Hello, Michael, Since f/0.7 is 1 stop faster than f/1.0 would you explain your reasoning please? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 2, 2017 Share #79 Posted October 2, 2017 [...] The difference between an aperture of 1.0 and an aperture of 0.95 is 1/7th of a stop. [...] [...] Since f/0.7 is 1 stop faster than f/1.0 would you explain your reasoning please? I would have said 1/4th of a stop but i'm rotten at math... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted October 2, 2017 Share #80 Posted October 2, 2017 Hello, Michael, Since f/0.7 is 1 stop faster than f/1.0 would you explain your reasoning please? Pete. I think it's basically correct... 0,85 is 1/2 stop... 0,92 1/4 0,96 1/8... of course with linear approximation... but I'd say that isn't wrong to say that 0,95 is around 1/7 stop. It has been like this also at the times of the famous Canon.... 0,95 is "nice to declare" ... but practically is a f1 (maybe Leica was the first to play this trick, with the Hektor 73 f1,9... Zeiss had an 85 f2 for Contax... ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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