MarkP Posted October 21, 2016 Share #281 Posted October 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think this would be a big win for a lot of people, but I can't see it happening for a little while. A high resolution EVF like the SL would need a lot more processing power, which would generate a lot more heat. Adding it would lead to an increase in body size to accomodate both the bigger battery and the heat dissipation. Heat dissipation was one of the reasons Leica gave for the size of the SL in a recent interview IIRC. I suppose some of the processing and heat dissipation could be passed onto the finder itself, but can you imagine the blowback on a $3k accessory finder that is 4x4x4cm? Maybe in a few years... I think that M RF users who want to use a high quality 'accessory' EVF from time to time would accept increased power consumption as an acceptable compromise. I know I would for when I wanted to use my 28-90 Vario-Elmarit-R or needed to use a very fast M lens wide open in low light. I'd just carry a second battery with me for when I needed to use the EVF. It's hard to believe that the next M won't have a vastly improved accessory EVF. I must say that what I sometimes really like about the EVF-2 on the M240 is having a real-time histogram in the VF, much more useful than the light meter. OMG I can't believe that as a devoted M user I just wrote that Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paulus Posted October 21, 2016 Share #282 Posted October 21, 2016 For four years, I have waited for this day to come: http://de.leica-camera.com/Fotografie/Leica-M/Leica-M-Special-Editions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenf Posted October 21, 2016 Share #283 Posted October 21, 2016 I think that M RF users who want to use a high quality 'accessory' EVF from time to time would accept increased power consumption as an acceptable compromise. I know I would for when I wanted to use my 28-90 Vario-Elmarit-R or needed to use a very fast M lens wide open in low light. I'd just carry a second battery with me for when I needed to use the EVF. It's hard to believe that the next M won't have a vastly improved accessory EVF. I must say that what I sometimes really like about the EVF-2 on the M240 is having a real-time histogram in the VF, much more useful than the light meter. OMG I can't believe that as a devoted M user I just wrote that Exactly. The EVF on my M-P has been a real gamechanger - focusing my Canon 50/1.2 is a breeze, and it makes using my 75 Cron at closer ranges easy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #284 Posted October 21, 2016 For four years, I have waited for this day to come: http://de.leica-camera.com/Fotografie/Leica-M/Leica-M-Special-Editions Great a Leica M wrapped in a red ribbed and studded condom for extra pleasure and excitement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share #285 Posted October 21, 2016 What will arrive sooner the new Leica M or THE photograph of the legend of Sofort. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 21, 2016 Share #286 Posted October 21, 2016 [...] It's hard to believe that the next M won't have a vastly improved accessory EVF. [...] Very hard indeed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted October 21, 2016 Share #287 Posted October 21, 2016 Advertisement (gone after registration) Wake me when the first "leaked" photos of the new M surface signaling the beginning if the viral marketing frenzy. RipVanRick Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Exodies Posted October 21, 2016 Share #288 Posted October 21, 2016 I hope they stop putting those semi cylindrical ends on the body as if they were containing film spools. Form not following function is so gauche. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 21, 2016 Share #289 Posted October 21, 2016 I hope they stop putting those semi cylindrical ends on the body as if they were containing film spools. Form not following function is so gauche. You shouldn’t expect radical changes to the design. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 21, 2016 Share #290 Posted October 21, 2016 It's hard to believe that the next M won't have a vastly improved accessory EVF. Leica’s standard accessory EVF these days is the Visoflex (Typ 020). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted October 21, 2016 Share #291 Posted October 21, 2016 I hope they stop putting those semi cylindrical ends on the body as if they were containing film spools. Form not following function is so gauche. Square is so 1970ies... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 21, 2016 Share #292 Posted October 21, 2016 You shouldn’t expect radical changes to the design. Well that would be unfortunate as yet again that would be Leica tacking older technology onto a new flagship camera. If so let's hope that unlike the EVF-2 that it's upgradable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 21, 2016 Share #293 Posted October 21, 2016 I hope they stop putting those semi cylindrical ends on the body [...] We could well have another cylindrical end on the top... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/264784-for-four-years-i-have-waited-for-this-day-which-has-not-come/?do=findComment&comment=3133136'>More sharing options...
mjh Posted October 21, 2016 Share #294 Posted October 21, 2016 Well that would be unfortunate as yet again that would be Leica tacking older technology onto a new flagship camera. Design is one thing, technology another. There is no proven way to predict a camera’s performance from the radius of its rounded corners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted October 21, 2016 Share #295 Posted October 21, 2016 But it would be really nice for the EVF to look like the Leica black metal accessory optical viewfinders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M28 Posted October 23, 2016 Author Share #296 Posted October 23, 2016 I really liked your comment and word choice about the rounded corners exodies. The rounded corners however do give the camera a better handling and they do look aesthetically pleasing. I see you live in Luxembourg I have always enjoyed my visits to Luxembourg, as a backpacker I made friends with a Mexican and we hung around together. We sat at the train station watching as drug dealers pushed dope into wealthy, exceptionally elegantly dressed , women's backsides on the stairwell as you go down into the toilets after they handed over their cash. I was pretty shocked then. But to me Luxembourg is so stylish and European. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianman Posted October 23, 2016 Share #297 Posted October 23, 2016 I hope they stop putting those semi cylindrical ends on the body as if they were containing film spools. Form not following function is so gauche. Actually that shape seems to have been designed as a perfect complement to the inside of the human hand. IMHO it's a perfect shape. But I would be extremely happy to see the M9/Typ 262 left side (from back) rather than the bulky M8/Typ 240. That cut-out is much more stylish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris_tribble Posted October 23, 2016 Share #298 Posted October 23, 2016 Actually that shape seems to have been designed as a perfect complement to the inside of the human hand. IMHO it's a perfect shape. But I would be extremely happy to see the M9/Typ 262 left side (from back) rather than the bulky M8/Typ 240. That cut-out is much more stylish. An I really wouldn't want the M to get the sharp edges which (for me) spoil the feel of the SL. A curve fits the hand better and it can deal with bangs and bumps better too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted October 23, 2016 Share #299 Posted October 23, 2016 Actually that shape seems to have been designed as a perfect complement to the inside of the human hand. IMHO it's a perfect shape. But I would be extremely happy to see the M9/Typ 262 left side (from back) rather than the bulky M8/Typ 240. That cut-out is much more stylish. Actually that shape seems to have been designed .......... Around a roll of film. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
semi-ambivalent Posted October 23, 2016 Share #300 Posted October 23, 2016 ...drug dealers pushed dope into wealthy, exceptionally elegantly dressed , women's backsides on the stairwell as you go down into the toilets after they handed over their cash. Now that's what I'd call good customer service. If only Kerouac was still alive and writing... s-a Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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