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Leica SL Firmware v.2.0 answers our wishes

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ramarren

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I have tried to help occasionally, but my responses have been ignored and 忘不了 just keeps complaining. 

 

Since all 忘不了 seems to want to do is complain, I have set the address to be ignored so that I don't have to read the bitterness. But with everyone responding with quotes, it seems impossible to ignore 忘不了. 

 

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adamdewilde

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the 24mm lens is actually more like 21-22mm that is then cropped pretty significantly. Exactly like the issue with the Q.

 

It's fine because for the most part the EVF applies this crop when you're shooting. So you kinda know what you're getting, or don't know what you're missing so to speak. BUT once in a while I'll compose a scene and it'll be using a glitched EVF view somehow. So I'll get the full 21mm-22mm frame with dark corners. I won't really notice but when I go home to load the images, things I didn't want cut off are now cut off. And I'll have to open the DNG with another RAW developer to get my full scene to save said picture. 

 

This hasn't happened to me with the Q that I can recall.. But it happens fairly often (well enough to notice after the fact) with the SL. Anyone else notice this? Obviously you have to use the 24-90 zoom so M/R users would never see/know about this.

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ramarren

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Is it just me or has anyone else noticed that the 24mm lens is actually more like 21-22mm that is then cropped pretty significantly. Exactly like the issue with the Q.

 

It's fine because for the most part the EVF applies this crop when you're shooting. So you kinda know what you're getting, or don't know what you're missing so to speak. BUT once in a while I'll compose a scene and it'll be using a glitched EVF view somehow. So I'll get the full 21mm-22mm frame with dark corners. I won't really notice but when I go home to load the images, things I didn't want cut off are now cut off. And I'll have to open the DNG with another RAW developer to get my full scene to save said picture. 

 

This hasn't happened to me with the Q that I can recall.. But it happens fairly often (well enough to notice after the fact) with the SL. Anyone else notice this? Obviously you have to use the 24-90 zoom so M/R users would never see/know about this.

 

 

I presume "the 24mm lens" means the SL24-90 set to 24mm focal length.

 

The SL24-90 is designed for image correction, which is applied both in-camera and in raw converters that have the right version of DNG processing in them (the correction parameters are embedded in the DNG file's metadata for processing at raw conversion time according to the DNG v1.3 or v1.4 specification). With such lenses, it is normal that the listed focal length is for the processed image's angle of view. Lightroom 6.4 and later have the correct camera calibration and the correct image processing algorithms for these raw files. 

 

I haven't seen the behavior you mention at all, where the unprocessed image is visible in the SL viewfinder—not with firmware 1.2, with any of the beta releases that led up to firmware 2.0, nor with firmware 2.0 release—and not in any JPEG or raw file from the SL. If you're not using the current Lightroom (or Adobe Camera Raw) to process the images, then it could be a processing issue ... but that doesn't explain seeing the unprocessed image on the SL's EVF. 

 

Puzzling. 

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ramarren

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A lock-up like that has been reported now and then. I think I only saw one once, on one of the beta firmware installs (perhaps the first one). It didn't happen again. 

 

I wouldn't worry about it unless it happens frequently, and then I'd try doing a full reset and configuring the camera from factory defaults before considering it a problem. 

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Dear Edward,

 

Previously with FW 1.2 I have found the SL to lock up in the following situation:

 

1. The SL in on, but in power down mode with the displays off.

2. The shutter release is pressed briefly to turn the camera on.

3. The SL is then turned off before the display reads "Ready".

4. The SL will now be locked up and completely unresponsive, and the display will stay lit even if the on/off switch is in the "off" position.

 

The battery will have to be removed to restart the camera and get it working again.

 

This situation does not happen every time but quite frequently, maybe two or three times a month when the SL is used almost on a daily basis.

 

This may seem like a strange ting to do, but happens quite frequently after shooting.

Then putting the SL back in the bag, but just realizing it is still on, and then turn it off, and it locks up.

 

A small annoyance, but if you do not notice and remove the battery immediately, you are left with an empty battery really quick.

 

I have not had this lockup with FW 2.0

 

Best regards

 

Trond

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thighslapper

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..... ah .... they mysterious 'lock-up' gremlin has left Solms and moved to Wetzlar....

 

he has repeated his mischief with almost every Leica digital camera to date ...... and despite endless threads on the subject no-one has a clue how he is doing it .....  :unsure:

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Dear Edward,

 

Previously with FW 1.2 I have found the SL to lock up in the following situation:

 

1. The SL in on, but in power down mode with the displays off.

2. The shutter release is pressed briefly to turn the camera on.

3. The SL is then turned off before the display reads "Ready".

4. The SL will now be locked up and completely unresponsive, and the display will stay lit even if the on/off switch is in the "off" position.

 

The battery will have to be removed to restart the camera and get it working again.

 

This situation does not happen every time but quite frequently, maybe two or three times a month when the SL is used almost on a daily basis.

 

This may seem like a strange ting to do, but happens quite frequently after shooting.

Then putting the SL back in the bag, but just realizing it is still on, and then turn it off, and it locks up.

 

A small annoyance, but if you do not notice and remove the battery immediately, you are left with an empty battery really quick.

 

I have not had this lockup with FW 2.0

 

Best regards

 

Trond

Dear Trond,

 

Thank you very much for the info. So far I've only had one lock up in 2 months of ownership, with fw 2.0, and as I described it, not similar to your experience. Mine froze just after I turned the camera on. Anyhow I will report back if I have another one and what sequence of events caused it.

 

Best regards,

Edward

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Is it ironic that 忘不了literally means "cannot be forgotten"...

 

I have tried to help occasionally, but my responses have been ignored and 忘不了 just keeps complaining.

 

Since all 忘不了 seems to want to do is complain, I have set the address to be ignored so that I don't have to read the bitterness. But with everyone responding with quotes, it seems impossible to ignore 忘不了.

 

:(

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ramarren

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it's a bug and not restricted to the 90-280, all SL und TL lenses are affected

 

http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/259283-leica-sl-firmware-v20-answers-our-wishes/?p=3029215

 

 

It is possible that the lens serial number was intentionally removed in order to fix some other, more important bug having to do with EXIF data display and retention. 

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adamdewilde

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Hi Edward, I actually had several (5-6) lockups on version 1.x on the SL. So far with v2 I've not had any yet. 

 

Also funny to note. I had an M-adapter T and every time you mounted an M lens it would let you take one image, then the EVF would go black for a few seconds. I suspect while the laser turned on to read the 6-bit coding. And apply corrections to EVF and DNG/JPG. 

 

Then after asking a friend, I found out this wasn't normal. So I took my M-adapter T back to the store and switched it for another one. And the problem went away. BUT now that I've updated to V2 firmware, the problem is back. Luckily I don't switch M lenses often, so it doesn't really bother me. Also to note, I tried this on another SL body in the shop (when I exchanged the adapter) and it was doing the same thing on the other SL.

(I didn't buy the SL for use with M or R lenses, I bought it for the AF, so I couldn't care less if Leica fixes this weird bug or not.)

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