scott kirkpatrick Posted July 5, 2014 Share #301 Posted July 5, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) I use Extreme Professional 90MB/s...it might help a bit. I don't think writing to the card is involved in this. But I checked with an 80 MB/sec Extreme card (16 GB), and found the same timing. I set review OFF, fired a series in which I pressed the shutter each time the view came back from blackout, and still see 7 shots in 15 seconds. With review ON 1 sec, the overall shot to shot timing is the same, so I think I will leave it that way -- less annoying. Interestingly, if you set shutter - C, it fires multiple frames with the viewfinder blacked out at better than 2 per sec (I haven't timed it carefully), refreshing the view when the firing stops. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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lct Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share #302 Posted July 5, 2014 The faster SDHC cards are 95 MB/s generally but there are exceptions. In classic mode, see http://tinyurl.com/kp8qe83. In LV/EVF mode, add about one second. The M240 is a slow camera as far as startup and wakeup times anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 5, 2014 Share #303 Posted July 5, 2014 I don't think writing to the card is involved in this. But I checked with an 80 MB/sec Extreme card (16 GB), and found the same timing. I set review OFF, fired a series in which I pressed the shutter each time the view came back from blackout, and still see 7 shots in 15 seconds. With review ON 1 sec, the overall shot to shot timing is the same, so I think I will leave it that way -- less annoying. Interestingly, if you set shutter - C, it fires multiple frames with the viewfinder blacked out at better than 2 per sec (I haven't timed it carefully), refreshing the view when the firing stops. scott Usually the 80MB/sec is Read speed, not write. I have some 80MB/sec cards that have only 45MB/sec write, and I have some 95MB/sec that have 80MB/sec write. It makes a big difference. I am not sure why start/wakeup times should be affected, just how much data is the camera writing at start/wakeup... For save times I can understand... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 5, 2014 Share #304 Posted July 5, 2014 .... The M240 is a slow camera as far as startup and wakeup times anyway. I don't dispute what you've said, LCT, but I can't recall this ever causing me a problem. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott kirkpatrick Posted July 5, 2014 Share #305 Posted July 5, 2014 Usually the 80MB/sec is Read speed, not write. I have some 80MB/sec cards that have only 45MB/sec write, and I have some 95MB/sec that have 80MB/sec write. It makes a big difference. I am not sure why start/wakeup times should be affected, just how much data is the camera writing at start/wakeup... For save times I can understand... Startup and wakeup require that the camera determine if there is an SD(HC?) card, how much space it has and where to start writing. Those are all READ operations. I spent some time looking into shooting speed with the M9, and I don't see indications that the M240 is organized differently except for the extra shutter operations involved in LiveView. At speeds less than 1 shot per second, writing to the card occurs without interfering with readiness to take the next shot, as everything is done using memory in the internal buffer. Once the buffer fills, then card write speed is important. The buffer in the M240 is bigger than in the M9. Maybe the M240 has a better implemented write interface, so that not only can it write faster to faster chips, it may not stall on some of the (now medium speed) older fast chips that the M9 couldn't handle well. My Olympus E-M1 which is a LV-only camera, refreshes its screen in under a half-second after a shot. I was wondering if the new firmware has an electronic shutter option that I haven't found yet, that might make that kind of speed possible. Jono's and others' enthusiasm for "now the LV is finally usable" made me think there might be something like this. But so far it is slow, pretty much like it was before I upgraded the firmware, although other controls are working much better. scott Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 5, 2014 Author Share #306 Posted July 5, 2014 I don't dispute what you've said, LCT, but I can't recall this ever causing me a problem... Your children (or grandchildren) must be calmer than mine then. Just had the time to hold the cam and shoot there. Not an M240 though. Too slow. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
swamiji Posted July 5, 2014 Share #307 Posted July 5, 2014 Advertisement (gone after registration) Startup and wakeup require that the camera determine if there is an SD(HC?) card, how much space it has and where to start writing. Those are all READ operations. I spent some time looking into shooting speed with the M9, and I don't see indications that the M240 is organized differently except for the extra shutter operations involved in LiveView. At speeds less than 1 shot per second, writing to the card occurs without interfering with readiness to take the next shot, as everything is done using memory in the internal buffer. Once the buffer fills, then card write speed is important. The buffer in the M240 is bigger than in the M9. Maybe the M240 has a better implemented write interface, so that not only can it write faster to faster chips, it may not stall on some of the (now medium speed) older fast chips that the M9 couldn't handle well. scott Yes, checking space and determining the existence of of the SD card are read operations, normally. But I don't seem to be able to see any real startup time differences from two cards with different read rates. For example Lexar and Panasonic 80mb/sec cards seem to but same, and the SanDisk 95mb/sec card don't seem to be much different. But the write times on all the cards are about 45mb/sec (more or less). However I have the Delkin 95mb/sec card which has a write speed of 80mb/sec. Start times on the Delkin is faster. As such, it seems that at start/wake, there is some write operation happening. Why, I am not sure. Also for some reason people report that formatting with SDformatter seems to help performance over using the internal format routine... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 5, 2014 Share #308 Posted July 5, 2014 I always wonder about people only switching their camera on at the decisive moment. I normally switch on as soon as a photo opportunity is in the making. Semper Paratus! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pop Posted July 5, 2014 Share #309 Posted July 5, 2014 I always wonder about people only switching their camera on at the decisive moment. I normally switch on as soon as a photo opportunity is in the making. Semper Paratus! Semper paparatus, you mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 5, 2014 Share #310 Posted July 5, 2014 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted July 5, 2014 Share #311 Posted July 5, 2014 In my case numquam paratus might be more accurate. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 5, 2014 Share #312 Posted July 5, 2014 .....or even “Quod in promptu est medium" Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ski542002 Posted July 5, 2014 Share #313 Posted July 5, 2014 Menu>file numbering>change filename>M That's what I did initially. When I select "M" and hit Set, "M" will not hold, it reverts back to "L". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamwhatigram Posted July 12, 2014 Share #314 Posted July 12, 2014 I've noticed that with the new Firmware (2.0.1.5), Lightroom 5.5 can no longer automatically read the Lens data and apply preset profiles for lens corrections. It worked fine with the older firmware (20.0.11). Hmmm. Leica problem? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted July 12, 2014 Share #315 Posted July 12, 2014 I read somewhere it will be fixed with the next Lightroom update. Elmar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlindstrom Posted July 12, 2014 Share #316 Posted July 12, 2014 I've noticed that with the new Firmware (2.0.1.5), Lightroom 5.5 can no longer automatically read the Lens data and apply preset profiles for lens corrections. It worked fine with the older firmware (20.0.11). Hmmm. Leica problem? I was wondering about this yesterday. Most annoying but definitely a Lightroom bug.. once you pick "Leica M" in the custom menu, it automatically jumps to correct lens. Also the exif overlay is showing correct info right from the start. Luckily I was just mucking about with a small batch of test shots :-) //Juha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted July 12, 2014 Share #317 Posted July 12, 2014 No, Ligthroom problem. Leica is aware of this and is trying to sort it out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 12, 2014 Share #318 Posted July 12, 2014 No, Ligthroom problem. Leica is aware of this and is trying to sort it out. Fortunately we shouldn't wait too long for this minor problem - Adobe is faster than Leica at releasing updates! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pobah Posted July 26, 2014 Share #319 Posted July 26, 2014 Thanks again David, appreciate your patience!! I'm sure I saw on the LCD, brief as the time was that it was on, that it said battery at 0%. In the charger it took just about 20 minutes or so to get the orange 80% light to come on, which makes sense as per how much I remember the battery having left. Same symptoms prevail. I called Leica in New Jersey, and they said they hadn't seen anything like this yet with this version of the FW, and to take the battery out overnight to hopefully clear any gremlins out. Otherwise, I think will have to send it in for service. On top of this, while trying to get this camera back to life, the Macro-Adapter-M arrived by UPS, so no way to test it out yet!! Have a nice afternoon and all the best to you! UPDATE 25/7/14: Just got my camera back from Leica USA, it had a bad circuit board and they had to replace it. Thanks to all who replied with suggestions!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erudolph Posted July 26, 2014 Share #320 Posted July 26, 2014 I've been using a dual illuminant profile for M240 file in LightRoom. However, this morning I happened to compare some files processed with that profile to those processed using the Embedded and Adobe Standard profiles. To my eye, the Embedded profile now looks very much like my dual illuminant profile. Can someone who knows discuss what changes to the color profile might be in 2.0.1.5? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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