jip Posted September 2, 2013 Share #1 Posted September 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) IS the 28-70 3.5-4.5 any good? I'm gonna use it on a R8, and R8 + DMR. thanks in advance. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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topoxforddoc Posted September 3, 2013 Share #2 Posted September 3, 2013 If you’re talking about the last ROM version of this lens, then it’s not bad. OK, it is nowhere like the performance of the stellar 28-90 asph. It’s competent, but in Leica terms that means it’s not great. Here’s something I took with the 28-70 ROM lens back in 2006 with my R9/DMR. Cropped lightly from the full image. Oscar Peterson playing at the Royal Albert Hall. It looks pretty good as an A3 print to me. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212012-quality-of-28-70-35-45/?do=findComment&comment=2412034'>More sharing options...
jip Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted September 3, 2013 Thanks for the quick response, I'm trying to get a 1 lens I can use for a while, I'll probably use it for standard to short tele (portrait) work. So my thoughts where the 28-70, because its a nice zoom range, now I've come across the 35-70 f/4 which apparently is much better(?). It sells for a bit more, but if it's truly better I'd rather get that, I wont be missing the 28-35 gap, since I will probably work more in the 'tele' range anyway. Plus it has a usable Macro range. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 3, 2013 Share #4 Posted September 3, 2013 The 35-70 has a better reputation. However, the 35 end of it just might not be wide enough for you. The 28-70 has a worse reputation than it deserves, whcih is why it is relatively inexpensive, and why at one point leica offered that lens in a kit with an R8 for a reduced package price. the 28-90 is better, but it's also larger, heavier and more expensive. I've used the 28-70 with excellent results for quite a number of years. 3 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Bailer Posted September 3, 2013 Share #5 Posted September 3, 2013 The 35-70 has a better reputation. However, the 35 end of it just might not be wide enough for you. The 28-70 has a worse reputation than it deserves, whcih is why it is relatively inexpensive, and why at one point leica offered that lens in a kit with an R8 for a reduced package price. the 28-90 is better, but it's also larger, heavier and more expensive. I've used the 28-70 with excellent results for quite a number of years. I am using the 28-70 on the R8-DMR as a standard lens and it is a quite good performer as long as you do not use it for architecture photos. accoring Erwin Puts, distortion is Barrel 5% at 28mm and pincushion at 70mm of 5%. However for such photographs I have the Elmarit 24mm, Elmarit 2.8x35, Summicron 50. While the 4/35-70 has only a distortion of 3% resp. 05% regards Peter 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #6 Posted September 3, 2013 Okay so my choise has been narrowed down to the 28-70 or the 35-70 both are the ROM edition, but the 28-70 goes for 450 euro, and the 35-70 for 750 euro. If they are both good lenses, then maybe I will get the 28-70 instead of the 35-70... If you guys say the 28-70 is a perfectly fine lens (I wont be doing architecture with the R) then that is okay I guess. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sfage Posted September 3, 2013 Share #7 Posted September 3, 2013 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Hi Jip! Long time no see! You might also consider the Angenieux 35-70. While this is not important in your climate, it is in mine. The Angenieux is actually better in the cold. The focus, zoom and aperture rings don't freeze up like a Leica. The next thing you should know is the UV filter that comes with the 35-70 is not that good (get a BW). I hate UV filters but in the case of an Angenieux, dust has a possibility of getting inside the barrel. This is an extremely minor consideration because it would take years of shooting in dusty environments to actually affect you. Holland is not one of those places. The Angenieux can be extremely sharp... if you speak its language. Just like the Telyt 400mm... if you speak its language. Edited September 3, 2013 by sfage 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #8 Posted September 3, 2013 Hi Jip! Long time no see!The Angenieux can be extremely sharp... if you speak its language. Just like the Telyt 400mm... if you speak its language. Thanks for the response, but I don't speak French... I'm thinking of the 35-70 F4 since it's more versatile for me, since it has a Macro feature. I'm not into macro photography but would like to go try it out a little, and the extra function doesn't hurt. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted September 3, 2013 Share #9 Posted September 3, 2013 If I was you, I would recommend a 35 Summilux or Summicon as your first R lens. To get the most from R Leica glass, one should use primes and preferably shoot wide open! Then you you will learn about the lens and how best it meshes with your aesthetics. WIDE OPEN is always the best. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 3, 2013 Author Share #10 Posted September 3, 2013 I'm used to doing that on the M9 and M6, but I am gonna get the R8 with DMR for a zoom lens, that can do various things, standard to tele. Would like to use it for some portrait but also other things. So I think buying a summilux 35 or 50 or something isn't gonna do any good, since I have those typ of lenses for the M9/M6. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted September 4, 2013 Share #11 Posted September 4, 2013 Many prefer the 80/1.4 for portrait work. Also works well with the APO extenders. I know Jono Slack likes the R 35-70/4 #11277, which I believe has the macro button. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 6, 2013 Share #12 Posted September 6, 2013 Jip, I agree with Lou; imho you won't find many better portrait lenses than the 80//1.4 Summilux-R full stop. With the R8/DM-R's crop factor that'll give you an equivalent focal length of roughly 105 mm, which is an excellent length for portraiture. It'll cost more that either the 38-70 or 35-70 but it will pay you back in sheer joy with the pictures it can produce. Pete. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jip Posted September 6, 2013 Author Share #13 Posted September 6, 2013 It'll become my seccond lens, I bought the 35-70 f/4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 6, 2013 Share #14 Posted September 6, 2013 Sounds like a good plan, Jip. I also have the 28-90/2.8 and 80-200/4 but it's rare for either of them to beat the 80/1.4 out of the door with me. Pete. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atournas Posted September 8, 2013 Share #15 Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) The 28-70 is a Leica-designed Sigma-made lens that was offered as a kit lens with the then new R7. That's how I got it and kept using it for a while as my only R lens, then sold it. Its results are very good if compared to non-Leica equivalents, but it is NOT up to the Leica standards. The 35-70 is a true Leica lens, while the 28-90 is superb but its price has gone up, after its use as the demo lens for the new M introduction. Paul Edited September 8, 2013 by atournas Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisling Posted May 7, 2014 Share #16 Posted May 7, 2014 I bought VE 28-7/3.5-4.5 as a kit for R-E, it is my favourite travel lens with R5 German foto Magazin rated Vario-Elmar 28-70/3.5-4.5 as Optik performance 9.6; construction quality 9.6. | It has all metal construction, the Sigma version is plastic with metal Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gisling Posted May 7, 2014 Share #17 Posted May 7, 2014 taken with R5/RE/R4+VE28-70 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212012-quality-of-28-70-35-45/?do=findComment&comment=2584948'>More sharing options...
gisling Posted May 7, 2014 Share #18 Posted May 7, 2014 28-70 with Canon 5DM2 first shot full size second shot detail demonstrates sharpness of VE2870 Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212012-quality-of-28-70-35-45/?do=findComment&comment=2585036'>More sharing options...
gisling Posted May 7, 2014 Share #19 Posted May 7, 2014 Another detail of first shot showing the characters on a board on the first counter Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/212012-quality-of-28-70-35-45/?do=findComment&comment=2585046'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 7, 2014 Share #20 Posted May 7, 2014 (edited) I bought VE 28-7/3.5-4.5 as a kit for R-E, it is my favourite travel lens with R5 German foto Magazin rated Vario-Elmar 28-70/3.5-4.5 as Optik performance 9.6; construction quality 9.6. | It has all metal construction, the Sigma version is plastic with metal But the optical performance is virtually identical. The difference to the 35-70 is quite marked. I'm sure it will show up even more on the modern high-resolution sensors, especially in the area of (micro) contrast. Edited May 7, 2014 by jaapv Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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