jaapv Posted July 5, 2013 Share #141 Posted July 5, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) So it makes a camera unreliable if the system has no aperture readout on the lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jeff S Posted July 5, 2013 Share #142 Posted July 5, 2013 Does that make the camera reliable because there is an FAQ answer? I have an M240 and have found the same problems. Lack of aperture readout is not a reliability issue; it's a design issue. Is the M unreliable because it doesn't have autofocus? Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 6, 2013 Share #143 Posted July 6, 2013 I need a FF body for my M lenses, and unfortunately there is no alternative yet. I would be happy to swap my wonderful Leica M9 for your awful M240 :-) And yes, (32) or whatever the tally is now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
suneohair Posted July 6, 2013 Share #144 Posted July 6, 2013 Completely unreliable. I went to use it today and it hasn't even been made yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #145 Posted July 6, 2013 Brand new M type 240 out of the box. Charging battery, switching Camera on... looking through the viewfinder ..... one of the LED bars of the leftmost digit does not light up Electronics can go bad, but this happened between QC and delivery, or was not noticed during QC. It's a minor issue, but for such an expensive camera it ruins the initial joy of ownership and makes you wonder what will come next. The lines are actually formed by a physical mask. Like slits in plastic. The LED is behind the mask and just shows through the mask lines. I imagine it either works or not. It may just be that your lens is not turned all the way in the mount. The mount is very tight and seems to be of a higher tolerance than previous M cameras. It just may take a hard turn or twisting the lens back and forth several times. Or try a different lens. For what it is worth, I can get the right hand lines to disappear by not locking my lens in all the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephenPatterson Posted July 6, 2013 Share #146 Posted July 6, 2013 Reliable, yes. I think there are still bugs to be smashed in the firmware, but my Macbook Pro also hiccups from time to time. I don't trust sleep/wake mode, and I don't use the advanced metering modes if I'm in a situation that requires fast response. My EVF use is on an "as needed" basis with wide lenses or very low ambient light. When a shoot is important I always have a second camera anyway. There's a reason airliners have more than one engine. For those who have had more serious problems/issues I am sorry and hope that they can be corrected. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCat Posted July 6, 2013 Share #147 Posted July 6, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would be happy to swap my wonderful Leica M9 for your awful M240 :-) Fair enough But unfortunately the EVF is a strict requirement for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted July 6, 2013 Share #148 Posted July 6, 2013 Completely unreliable. I went to use it today and it hasn't even been made yet! Comment of the day:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikasmg Posted July 6, 2013 Share #149 Posted July 6, 2013 Fair enough But unfortunately the EVF is a strict requirement for me. Darn :-) - Vikas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted July 6, 2013 Share #150 Posted July 6, 2013 I imagine it either works or not.. Rick you are talking about the frame lines, do you? It's the digits of the light meter readout that are not working in my camera. Upon further investigating it indeed works sometimes and sometimes not. It's always the right lower vertical bar of the 3th digit. Funny thing is that sometimes the digit is ok sometimes not. It has nothing to do with the mount. Even with no lens attached the readout is most of the time incomplete, but not always. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted July 6, 2013 Share #151 Posted July 6, 2013 mine ? yes Erick, Try spraying a small amount of switch cleaner fluid onto the connector on the VF and then plug it in and out a few times before the fluid has time to evaporate. I had a few odd results back in March when I first used the Oly finder on my original 240. I gave the finder a quick spray with Servisol (cures everything electrical) and have not had a problem since. Even if it does not work, it will not do any harm to make sure the multiple contacts are clean. Do not use WD40 or similar as this leaves a film on the contacts. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erl Posted July 6, 2013 Share #152 Posted July 6, 2013 Erick, Do not use WD40 or similar as this leaves a film on the contacts. Wilson . . . . so, then it would be an analogue camera? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share #153 Posted July 6, 2013 Rick you are talking about the frame lines, do you? It's the digits of the light meter readout that are not working in my camera. Upon further investigating it indeed works sometimes and sometimes not. It's always the right lower vertical bar of the 3th digit. Funny thing is that sometimes the digit is ok sometimes not. It has nothing to do with the mount. Even with no lens attached the readout is most of the time incomplete, but not always. Understand now. I was talking about the frame lines. That is too bad because, it sounds like it has to go back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest tanks Posted July 6, 2013 Share #154 Posted July 6, 2013 Understand now. I was talking about the frame lines. That is too bad because, it sounds like it has to go back. Does that make it a "NO" then or would you still think it is a "YES" as it will be taken care of via warranty? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
viramati Posted July 6, 2013 Share #155 Posted July 6, 2013 just discovered the calibration is out on mine. had thought it was just my CV nokton 35 1.2 that was out but having just got my tripod back from a friend I find my leica lenses are out as well P***d off to say the least. So this is not a strict reliability issue but having owned 1 M8.2 and 2 M9's and now this only one of my M9's was correctly calibrated when I got it!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IPS Posted July 6, 2013 Share #156 Posted July 6, 2013 Yes its reliable (32?). Ive had no problems at all with it in the 6 weeks that I have had it. I'm very happy with the new M and have not experienced any of the issues raised by some users. In comparison my M9 used to lock-regularly. Overall, from my point of view, the new M is a vast improvement on every front. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted July 6, 2013 Share #157 Posted July 6, 2013 Yes (33). Rangefinder fantastic calibration at delivery, no shift afterwards. No lockups, SD card issues or other problems (1 month in extensive use). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 6, 2013 Share #158 Posted July 6, 2013 Did you use an EVF extensively? Just curious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lindolfi Posted July 6, 2013 Share #159 Posted July 6, 2013 In dark situations (75 and 135 mm), the 12 mm, microscope, macro and long lenses I did and for testing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted July 6, 2013 Share #160 Posted July 6, 2013 Does that make it a "NO" then or would you still think it is a "YES" as it will be taken care of via warranty? Reliable is not exactly the same as "a problem that is taken care of by warranty" to me. So I'm currently leaning more to a NO than to a YES. The problem of the failing led digit either was not noticed by QC or the failure occured for the first time when I switched the camera on after delivery. In the former case it's bad QC in the later it's more an aspect of reliability. But I'll give it a chance as I'm traveling the next 5 weeks. If nothing else comes up it will go to Solms later this year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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