Stolen kit from Leica Mayfair 23/01/13

[andybarton]

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The Leica Café Optik in Mayfair was subject to a break-in last night and the items shown on the attached list were stolen. Through the good offices of Red Dot Cameras, Leica UK have asked the Forum to warn our members that any item on this list has been stolen from them, and if any of these items are offered that you contact either the Leica Store Mayfair on 0207 629 1351 or your local police.

 

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Edited January 24, 2013 by andybarton

[Bill W]

That is a lot of stuff. Had to be more than one person involved. You wonder if it is display items or boxed. The first clue that something is "hot" is when a camera is for sale and no other items are included.

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[StephenCosh]

Yeah I was down there yesterday and saw the S store had been broken into. I thought the list would be bigger as every cabinet had been smashed.

Not good!

[olivier2013]

Such a disgrace, really. This is a lot.

 

Maybe you should send this piece of information to the online auction sites.

It is their duty to make sure they do not carry over stolen goods. They are guilty otherwise, on a similar level as the thieves are.

 

I would advise to let the other shops in UK and elsewhere in close European countries know about it too. They are subject to the same duties.

Last, post this information on the RFF forum and the (french) Summilux forum too. Who knows, something might come up.

 

Anyway, good luck.

 

Olivier

[someonenameddavid]

Such a disgrace, really. This is a lot.

 

Maybe you should send this piece of information to the online auction sites.

It is their duty to make sure they do not carry over stolen goods. They are guilty otherwise, on a similar level as the thieves are.

 

I would advise to let the other shops in UK and elsewhere in close European countries know about it too. They are subject to the same duties.

Last, post this information on the RFF forum and the (french) Summilux forum too. Who knows, something might come up.

 

Anyway, good luck.

 

Olivier

In high end electronics it surely should be a trivial cost to put in a wifi "SOS" signal which would activate and find the location of a stolen item, like the app for the iPhone. Or every image could have a unique watermark so that any picture on the web could be identified as to which camera and where and when the picture was taken.

This would make stealing stuff much less profitable: even so, stealing an S2 is like stealing a work of art or an expensive musical instrument: the buyers would know that it was stolen

[AlanJW]

In high end electronics it surely should be a trivial cost to put in a wifi "SOS" signal which would activate and find the location of a stolen item, like the app for the iPhone. Or every image could have a unique watermark so that any picture on the web could be identified as to which camera and where and when the picture was taken.

This would make stealing stuff much less profitable: even so, stealing an S2 is like stealing a work of art or an expensive musical instrument: the buyers would know that it was stolen

 

The "watermark" markers are there aren't they -- at least for camera bodies? Isn't the serial number in the EXIF data? I thought there was an Internet application that looked for identifiers. No way to do this that I know of for lenses, some of which cost as much or more than bodies (e.g. Noctilux).

[pico]

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The "watermark" markers are there aren't they -- at least for camera bodies? Isn't the serial number in the EXIF data? I thought there was an Internet application that looked for identifiers. [...]

 

It is an emerging tool, Alan. EXIF tracking services help find missing cameras: Digital Photography Review

 

The idea of having something like 'find my iPhone' for a camera has a number of problems.

[stephan_w]

would be interesting to know how such stories end. The store is probably insured, so the stolen goods will get the property of the insurance company, that may track them or not. If the parts are found, they will not get back to the store, but to the insurance company who will sell them (probably on an auction). But what happens with the serial numbers? I mean once they are registered as "stolen", a future legal owner may have problems, no?

[jdlaing]

would be interesting to know how such stories end. The store is probably insured, so the stolen goods will get the property of the insurance company, that may track them or not. If the parts are found, they will not get back to the store, but to the insurance company who will sell them (probably on an auction). But what happens with the serial numbers? I mean once they are registered as "stolen", a future legal owner may have problems, no?

 

Once stolen, there can be no future legal owner unless they are sold by the insurance company or their designee, at which point they are no longer stolen. Shouldn't be a problem at all. The last schmuck who had possession before recovery is the one with the problem. Also.....first rights to recovery is the person who had them stolen. At least in the US.

[arno_nyhm]

Once stolen, there can be no future legal owner unless they are sold by the insurance company or their designee, at which point they are no longer stolen. Shouldn't be a problem at all. The last schmuck who had possession before recovery is the one with the problem. Also.....first rights to recovery is the person who had them stolen. At least in the US.

 

you might be right in your country. for example in Poland there is no difference between possession an ownership. if you have it- you can sell it. in Germany, any Gerichtsvollzieher could legally sell stolen goods by an official "auction" wich wouldn't even be announced on the internet and make the highest bidder become the legal owner. of course there are further legal requirements, but they aren't too difficult to meet. and there should be more countries with rules like these around the world.

[kzihr]

The Leica Café Optik in Mayfair was subject to a break-in last night and the items shown on the attached list were stolen. Through the good offices of Red Dot Cameras, Leica UK have asked the Forum to warn our members that any item on this list has been stolen from them, and if any of these items are offered that you contact either the Leica Store Mayfair on 0207 629 1351 or your local police.

 

Thanks

 

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The S2 can be located to this site Fashion Served :: Gallery using software to trace serialnumbers in imagefiles...

The image url containing the serialnumber is: http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles19/679634/projects/2894235/aa063a8d180ac0d68989c8b337a8dc1f.jpg

[pico]

The image url containing the serialnumber is: http://behance.vo.llnwd.net/profiles19/679634/projects/2894235/aa063a8d180ac0d68989c8b337a8dc1f.jpg

 

Wow! Good work!

 

That could be a serious indictment. The IP data has, "Lenn Christine Nilgün Elisa Studio München Schwarz-weiss Lager" Have you contacted Mayfair?

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[kzihr]

Wow! Good work!

 

That could be a serious indictment. The IP data has, "Lenn Christine Nilgün Elisa Studio München Schwarz-weiss Lager" Have you contacted Mayfair?

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Yes. Wrote to them asap. Waiting for them to reply. I'll post more when I hear from them.

[Bill W]

Just curious if the S2 was ever a demo or loaner camera? It would seem pretty dumb to post shots take with it if the exif data points back to you:eek:

[kzihr]

Just curious if the S2 was ever a demo or loaner camera? It would seem pretty dumb to post shots take with it if the exif data points back to you:eek:

 

Could have been bought by someone who didn't ask where it came from... But yeah, pretty foolish to post pictures taken with a stolen camera.

[MPerson]

Well the capture date for that image is 2011-10-16. Possible the date is wrong but maybe the camera was a rental previous to the theft.

 

 

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[kzihr]

Well the capture date for that image is 2011-10-16. Possible the date is wrong but maybe the camera was a rental previous to the theft.

 

 

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Didn't see that... Could be possible.

[Chuck Albertson]

Well the capture date for that image is 2011-10-16. Possible the date is wrong but maybe the camera was a rental previous to the theft.

 

..or even shot in the studio upstairs.

[wattsy]

Well the capture date for that image is 2011-10-16. Possible the date is wrong but maybe the camera was a rental previous to the theft.

 

I think that is almost certainly the case. The camera was apparently stolen from Café Optik which is where all the ex-demo/select gear is displayed in cabinets.

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