Leica M and M-E

[markowich]

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amazing selection of junk shots on the M leica webpage. they look like taken with a 250 euro PS camera.

peter

[stalker]

M-E is fine. My only concern is that it is thicker now

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[atufte]

Ohhh, i would be soooo happy if it was the first of april today, but since it's not, this is a really sad day in Leica's history... :-(

[tommm]

Key question: M-E or M9? Which would you go for?

[AlanG]

The new D600 is also only 6400, although I'd think its not likely that the sensor will match up to the Sony/Nikon sensors. I guess they couldn't get a deal with one of the big players. Question will be how far behind it lags. Guess we'll know in 2013.

 

Sandy

 

My thought is that the IR filtering may be using up some light. I didn't know the D600 is only 6400 ISO max. That seems weird. A 5DII is only $2000 now and the new 6D is about the same. And both of those have higher ISO than 6400. Of course they all have a higher "expanded" level too. I don't know if maximum numbers mean much until we see how the noise shakes out.

 

The new grip adds some features and indicates an electronic connection between the body and the grip. So other kinds of grips, devices may evolve. That could be a way to add wifi remote control/viewing and other features for instance. The EVF socket could allow for various monitors and upgraded viewfinders over time too.

Edited September 17, 2012 by AlanG

[SiOnara]

Brilliant move by Leica. Something for everyone and not TOO expensive. Looking to the past and the future.

[tele_player]

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Maybe I misunderstand you, but M-E dimensions are the same as M9(139 x 37 x 80 mm), according to the M-E specs on the Leica site, and the specs in my M9 manual.

 

M-E is fine. My only concern is that it is thicker now

[myshkine]

A digital M Leica under 5k euro? Well, maybe I'll start thinking about the ME. The only thing that worries me is that the M bodies are getting fatter. One day we'll wake up and our Leica will look like a Canon

[tappan]

Does one still need a VIEWFINDER/BRIGHTFINDER, le's say if your'e using an 18mm Super E ?

Thanks,

Mark

[Vlad]

#2 in line for the 'M' at the local dealer.

 

Supposed delivery starting Jan/Feb. $7k.

[uaqpau]

Looking at the pictures of the Leica M, it looks thicker than the M9... but can't find the specifications. Is it really chubbier? compared to my mp it looks quite corpulent

[AlanG]

very interesting to read about CMOSIS. years ago Fill factory provided the CCD sensor for the kodak 14n (based on a nikon body), which i had the -doubtful- pleasure of owning for a year.

 

Yeah, despite being in the sensor business, Kodak chose Fill Factory when they decided to go full frame. It was a CMOS chip not CCD BTW. I'm assuming they've learned something in ten years or so and this sensor is a lot better than that one.

 

At least yours had a Nikon body. Kodak loaned me a DCS/c (Canon version of the 14n on a Sigma body.) I used it for about a week alongside my 1Ds. The body was terrible compared with the 1Ds and I hated the images too. Color shifts... especially with TS lenses and lots of aliasing colors and other issues. Whereas the 1Ds was staggeringly good and very refined for its time.

 

I told my Kodak reps. what I thought as politely as I could.

[SiOnara]

There's a good video on Leica's website with John Dooley using the new M. Very nice upgrade.

 

Interesting to watch and then you see the new M at 03:13 with all the add ons like viewfinder and baseplate and it starts to look like a DSLR! So happy they kept a classic M9/M-E line

[traveller72]

I think it was quite a smart move to introduce both the M and M-E.

 

With the M-E all M9 owners still feel happy as they still own a somewhat "current model" AND it should better maintain the resale value for M9s.

And at the same time there is a better option for those who want the latest technology.

 

The new M has a few nice features...I guess the additional focus methods will also allow the introduction of some new (and longer) tele-lenses (even many people will write there is no need for that on a Leica M ;-).

 

btw did you notice that both M-E and M are 5mm thicker than the M9?

[wattsy]

I'm assuming all that stuff would be black on the black one... it'll help a bit, no?

 

I think they are silver on the black version. See page 16 of the brochure.

[Jeff S]

Why is the new M so much fatter? Makes my M3 look positively svelte.

 

5mm (.2 in) more than the M9...not dramatic IMO considering all the stuff inside. All other dimensions identical.

 

I loved the ergonomics of film Ms for decades; now they feel too skinny after using the M8.2 for a few years.

 

Without some of the new M features (including some weather sealing), I was going to get a 5DIII to complement my M system. The new M may now suffice. Given that alternative, I'd say the new M is damn skinny. Depends on your perspective...and your personal experience.

 

I won't know until I try the camera, for ergonomics and IQ, and seek reviews on the sealing...but it looks promising for my needs. The M8.2s will likely stick around in any case.

 

Jeff

[anupmc]

5mm (.2 in) more than the M9...not dramatic IMO considering all the stuff inside. All other dimensions identical.

...

Jeff

 

And 80g heavier than the 9-P.

Edited September 17, 2012 by anupmc
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[UliWer]

M-E is fine. My only concern is that it is thicker now

 

I think it's a misprint in the sheet from the website. It says 42mm - which is the thickness of the new M - I am sure it will have the same size as the M9, i.e. 37mm. The weight is the same as for the M9.

[digitalpowershot]

Key question: M-E or M9? Which would you go for?

 

M9 or M9/P just because you can choose the "color". The M9P is still the best looking Leica digital though...

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Look here: Leica M

[iforum]

Leica just wiped out the purists "........... video same as the rest now :D . No more standing apart from the minstream.