mby Posted May 23, 2011 Share #121 Â Posted May 23, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica cannot make a standard M8/9 without some kind of dot - there is a triangular hole behind that dot to access the vertical RF adjustment. Â How do they do it with the MP? Â Thanks and best, Michael Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted May 23, 2011 Share #122  Posted May 23, 2011 How do they do it with the MP? Thanks and best, Michael  Different top plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan-S Posted May 23, 2011 Share #123 Â Posted May 23, 2011 Why not different top plate for M9 also? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted May 23, 2011 Share #124 Â Posted May 23, 2011 Why not different top plate for M9 also? Â Maybe there will be one? No reason why not, unless the rangefinder adjustment hole needs to be larger for the M9, I really don't know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
someonenameddavid Posted May 23, 2011 Share #125 Â Posted May 23, 2011 Apparently there will be a different top plate in the upgraded M9 to accommodate the built-in visoflex with a novel mechanical information sharing "cam" system for real-time operation of lens systems: those lenses will carry the "R" designation and a hefty premium.... Â Oh btw. Â 8-)) David Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 23, 2011 Share #126 Â Posted May 23, 2011 Why not different top plate for M9 also?The ecomnomics. The top plate for the MP is for a separate series of cameras as a whole,i.e MP and a-la-carte so there are a number being made. To make just a few for the M9, which is a plate that is unique for the camera type would be economically not doable for an acceptable price. If for instance the M10 has a different system that does not need this hole that would be a completely different case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roydonian Posted May 23, 2011 Share #127  Posted May 23, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) In an age of numerically controlled machines, eliminating the hollow for the red dot badge and the triangular hole for the RF adjustment would be a simple change to the software, I suspect – the removal of some existing code. The only new code required would be for the drilling and threading of the new RF-adjustment hole.  Best regards,  Doug Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 23, 2011 Share #128 Â Posted May 23, 2011 I'm not quite sure about the production process, but I seem to recall that the hole is already present in the original cast, so before the milling and drilling takes place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jchalmer Posted May 23, 2011 Share #129 Â Posted May 23, 2011 I really don't think it's going to be an iterative change. It's just going to be like the titanium edition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 24, 2011 Share #130  Posted May 24, 2011 The M7 special Edition Hermès has a top cover very similar to that of Seal's picture:  Leica Camera AG - Photography - M7 Edition Hermès  And different to the top cover of a MP camera:  http://en.leica-camera.com/photography/m_system/mp/  (It is a film camera though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosuna Posted May 24, 2011 Share #131 Â Posted May 24, 2011 I like the fine grain, deep black skin of the MP camera much better than the "vulcanite"-like skin cover of the current black M9... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 24, 2011 Share #132 Â Posted May 24, 2011 they would have to set up a special one-off milling and casting process for the top plate. It would probably drive the pricepoint beyond the M9Ti. Â Why would it be a one-off? The M9-P (which seems to be a done deal by now - I'm not why all the speculation) sounds as if it will be a regular production model sold alongside the bog standard M9. Leica already obtain top plates in at least five variants - standard M7, standard MP, MP with angled rewind crank, M7 with rewind knob, and M9 - another variant for the M9 is hardly going to be a big deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Ash Posted May 24, 2011 Share #133 Â Posted May 24, 2011 Jaap, Â It seems to me you already feel the pain that the new one might be prettier than what you hold in your hands. Â Regards, Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2011 Share #134 Â Posted May 24, 2011 Why would it be a one-off? Because the discussion was whether the camera Seal was depicted with was a one-off a-la-carte M9. What a future M9P, M9-2 or whatever will look like is anybodies guess and was not the subject.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLC Posted May 24, 2011 Share #135 Â Posted May 24, 2011 Leica cannot make a standard M8/9 without some kind of dot - there is a triangular hole behind that dot to access the vertical RF adjustment. Â if you look at the m9 disguised as a m8 it has no dot, just a screw similar to an mp. not a hard thing to change in a cnc mill. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2011 Share #136 Â Posted May 24, 2011 Maybe that indicates that the original design idea of the M9 was without dot and changed for the final production item. It would not be a very good idea to have it wholly without access. A shifted vertical RF alignment is not uncommon if a camera is dropped. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 24, 2011 Share #137 Â Posted May 24, 2011 I think you are making far too much out of nothing regarding the top plate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 24, 2011 Share #138 Â Posted May 24, 2011 It seems to me you already feel the pain that the new one might be prettier than what you hold in your hands. Â LOL. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 24, 2011 Share #139 Â Posted May 24, 2011 I think you are making far too much out of nothing regarding the top plate. Â I agree entirely - I mean, why is nobody talking about that shutter release button?! Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 24, 2011 Share #140 Â Posted May 24, 2011 I think you are making far too much out of nothing regarding the top plate. Frankly, I couldn't care less. I didn't move from M4 to M4--2 or M4-P,nor from M6 to M6TTL or further to M7, I didn't move from M8 to M8.2. Minor upgrades are no buying trigger for me, nor the number of scratches on my current camera Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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